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#2737374 Would Gettleman have drafted Cam?

Posted by Frizzy350 on 12 April 2014 - 12:20 PM

Okie here we go. Cam would have been the number 1 pick for any team with ANY semblance of desire to improve their qb position. 1. Nobody has single handedly carried an average NCAA team to a national championship through the SEC (at least as long as I can remember). 2. Undeniable freak athlete. Tall, muscular, fast, wide array of open field moves, durable and strong as a bull. Has about as strong an arm you can get. 3. As raw as lindsey lohan's vag as a pro pocket passer come the combine. HOWEVER, the level of improvement in this area between combine and pro day was unheard of. No he wasnt there yet, but he showed the ability to self scout, a desire to be successful at the next level and potential to reach his ceiling. 4. Only concerns that still linger after this weren't related to the field. Laptop incident is completely forgettable when the norm for problem athletes is sexual assault, domestic violence, DUIs, possession of drugs and firearms. All the garbage of cam being unable to comprehend nfl playbooks, lack of leadership, taking money from auburn, not being a leader and being an overall terrible person would have been quickly dissolved by any scout or gm who had a sit down with cams coaches, teammates, family or cam himself. Sent from my SPH-L710 using CarolinaHuddle mobile app

#2737357 Would Gettleman have drafted Cam?

Posted by Frizzy350 on 12 April 2014 - 11:58 AM

Impossible to find out.

But thats really all that matters. Last year seriously proved just how off base the media is compared to what teams are thinking.

Its skewed further in cams scenario due to the slander.

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#2737316 Would Gettleman have drafted Cam?

Posted by Frizzy350 on 12 April 2014 - 11:28 AM

Luke and Cam are great but it nearly impossible to screw up a top 10 pick

Definitely not true. Most years a handful of top ten picks dont pan out.

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#2732119 Arthur Blank “bothered” at Falcons’ reaction to a hit on Matt Ryan

Posted by Frizzy350 on 08 April 2014 - 06:43 PM

Well they were a bunch of pussies last year.

And I have inkling suspicion that Matty is the biggest pussy of them all.

Cam gets a late hit on him and you saw all the offensive lineman get his back. Later gross said cam is one of the toughest players he's ever played with and teammates respect that


I remember during Cam's rookie year he split his thumb nail open and was bleeding a good bit.  I was shocked how well he could still throw the ball...


Then theres the game he bit his tongue and spat out a nasty blood lugie.


The playing on a bum ankle as a running quarterback...


Cam's a fugin horse.



Also I wonder if other members of the team were a bit irked by the amount of money he was making.  Money can make things different between people, especially if people sincerely believe you are only making that money because of them.

#2731191 2014 NFL Draft: Why Offensive Linemen Are Valued Highly

Posted by Frizzy350 on 08 April 2014 - 06:49 AM

One thing that was pointed out that eased my worries a bit was how great physical attributes transition to the NFL, and the mental aspect can usually be acquired later on through coaching.  Makes me feel much better about how Amini and Kugbila might turn out for us because they are both great athletes.

#2730616 Panthers Sign Avant to 1 Year Deal

Posted by Frizzy350 on 07 April 2014 - 07:11 PM

I promised myself I was going to sit back and not comment. But I can't help it. You guys are like the damn little aliens from Toy Story and Gettleman is the claw. Our WRs right now are not better than last year, not even a smidge. Steve Smith is a border line Hall of Famer, Lafell is better than Avant, drops and all and Underwood ain't Ginn. I don't mind all the blind optimism, but come on man can we at least be honest with ourselves??


Can you just like remind us how much you want a receiver and how much you hate Gettleman on like a monthly basis?  It's getting tiring to read the same post every day in every thread.


Steve Smith isn't playing like a HoFer anymore, get over it.  He's old, he had little competition over the ball last year, made costly drops and had the production of ur average third stringer.  LaFell is plain awful, how you can't see that is baffling.  Ginn was considered across the league a complete bust until our sexy quarterback was able to milk some level of production out of him.

#2730526 Panthers Sign Avant to 1 Year Deal

Posted by Frizzy350 on 07 April 2014 - 06:33 PM

We sure don't have a sexy wide-out group but its already better than last year's.


Underwood has more upside than Ginn and hopefully doesn't have drop issues.

Cotchery is significantly better than LaFell in every aspect (except MAYBE blocking).

Avant is certainly no Steve Smith, but when you consider how quickly Smiths skills are deteriorating and how much we'll have to pay him over the next few years he isn't much of a downgrade.


This FA has turned out surprisingly well and sets us up to go BPA in the draft.  Honestly if we keep hitting home runs on our first pick and getting a few nice additions in the later round we will have some nice trade bait if nothing else down the line.

#2702789 Panthers re-sign....

Posted by Frizzy350 on 17 March 2014 - 04:33 PM

Williams is a darn good STer. Not only did he block the punt against the jets but he told the coaches of a weakness in their formation he noticed mid game. Him and the coaches worked out a way to take advantage of that weakness. Always good to have a few heads up players out there.

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#2700523 Gman Agreed COLTS Were Right Fit For Nicks

Posted by Frizzy350 on 16 March 2014 - 12:51 PM

Nicks probably did want to play for Carolina.  We made him an offer, Indy made a better offer.  Nicks calls Gettleman back, tells him what Indy is offering hoping we will sweeten the pot for him, Gettleman tells him "yea thats probably a better fit".

#2700416 Continuity for Cam?

Posted by Frizzy350 on 16 March 2014 - 12:15 PM

Ginn was a first round pick that had underachieved up until last year.

Underachieved is too much credit. Ginn was a certified bust aside from being a return man. No other team would even talk to him. We saw something other teams didnt, and we got a solid contributor. Just gotta do it year in year out.

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#2700408 Continuity for Cam?

Posted by Frizzy350 on 16 March 2014 - 12:12 PM

Are we so sure GMan wants Cam? I must say it sure is odd what's going on. Our receiving corp wasn't much to brag about but getting rid of everyone and replacing them with no one is a head scratcher.

So far everything has gone exactly the way rr and dg have been preaching since theyve hooked up. Building through the draft, bargain bin FAs, answer sometimes already on the roster, things going to change around here, etc.

I highly doubt dg wouldnt want cam. "Big men win football games." Cam is as big as you can get. The nygiants gave eli an enormous contract before he even sniffed success. Why? Because elis failings were caused by the players around him. They got eli a bargain bin oline of vets that meshed well, drafted weapons and a dominant dline.

We have most of those pieces in place already.

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#2697161 Time to make a BOLD move.

Posted by Frizzy350 on 15 March 2014 - 12:49 AM

intended or not it looks like you have hit on where the real focus should be or should I say the main focus.

 But back to the point neither one have won anything yet in the NFL.


I wouldn't say Marino didn't win anything the NFL just because he didn't get a ring.  He is still one of the best to ever play the game.


The point is that model (elite QB, WRs, Oline) is LESS likely to a win superbowl than a good QB/general offense supplemented by an elite defense.  In the modern era here are some good examples.


The Patriots won their 3 superbowls with a clock consuming game managing quarterback named Tom Brady who had a bruising running back in Corey Dillon and an elite defense (most of talent was in the front 7, but they had a great secondary also).


Ben Roethlisberger won 2 superbowls for the Steelers, the first of which he posted an abysmal quarterback rating and had Jerome Bettis and an elite defense (most talent was within the front 7).


Eli Manning and the Giants won the biggest upset superbowl of all time against the now pass happy Patriots, who had shattered just about every offensive single season statistical category in existence by having a relentless front 4 and an efficient offense (biggest bruiser would be Jacobs).


Ravens won their first superbowl with Trent Dilfer as their QB and one of the best defenses of all time (once again, primary player were front 7 players) along with a young and nasty bruising back in Jamaal Lewis.  They won their second with Joe Freakin Flacco playing at an MVP level bolstered by an incredible playoff defensive performance by guys like Ngata, Suggs, and Ray Lewis.


The Seahawks absolutely dominated (a team we were 8 yards and a fumble from beating) the Denver Broncos who had beaten all those pretty records the Patriots set.  As much we credit the Seattle secondary (which is elite), their heavy rotational front put Peyton Manning in poor situations nearly every play of the game.  They still have a good front 7 despite most credit going to their secondary and a bruising back in Lynch.


Other superbowls have been won by the Packers, Colts, Bucs (once again won by an elite defense, especially along the front 7), Saints, and Rams.


11 of the past 15 superbowls have been won by bruising backs, elite defensive front 7s, and timely quarterback play.


We have that.  Even if we don't draft or sign another player we fit right in with those 11,  I will take those chances any day.

#2697092 Time to make a BOLD move.

Posted by Frizzy350 on 14 March 2014 - 11:51 PM

Dan Marino anyone? 


Except Marino had a great oline and an incredible pair of receivers and a shitty defense.  Pretty much polar opposites in that regard.

#2696986 Time to make a BOLD move.

Posted by Frizzy350 on 14 March 2014 - 11:13 PM

You do realize we've got 8 chances in the draft + UDFAs (who we hit VERY well on last year) + last wave of FA contracts to get help on offensive side for Cam.  Also, if we maintain this dominant defense (and by retaining hardy, it looks like we shall) we give him just as much help, just on the other side of the ball.  You've all seen Cam's press conferences after wins and losses.  Cam can get the living poo beat out of him, but if we win the game the guy is exuberant.


Cam doesn't care how we win games as long we win them.  He could complete 20% of his passes, throw for 5 tds and 50 picks over the season and would be happy if we made the playoffs.  Hes a winner and thats all that matters to him (and us).  I get it, we are all drooling to see Cam come full circle and load him all up with superstar talent on his side of the ball so he can coast to record breaking numbers, but that aint happening unless we hit absolute gold on this draft.


Cam himself has accounted for the highest percentage of offensive production than any other player since he has came into the league.  He alone constitutes an offense capable of winning games and he makes everyone around him look better than they are.  We will be perfectly fine.

#2696908 The last five super bowl winners

Posted by Frizzy350 on 14 March 2014 - 11:00 PM

We still haven't hit the draft yet. When we go into the season with no wr1 or a starting LT I'll worry. Until then I'm going to act as everything is alright which it is.


The most cap efficient and long term answers for WR and OT lie in the draft. I'll panic if it isn't addressed then (but it will be).

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