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In Topic: 12-year-old in Cleveland with a BB gun shot by cop

Today, 12:24 AM

Give me an example of cops getting killed because of hesitation to shoot? 42 officers died by gunfire in 2013. Meanwhile, it is estimated that cops kill just over 1000 civilians a year of which about 400 are justified.

Cops are cowards who shoot to kill when their lives are not in danger as demonstrated by the statistics. 42 police officer deaths by gunfire vs about 600 civilians needlessly killed by cops.

First, research "OODA loop". This will help explain some of what you are about to see.





And another. Same issue: OODA loop.




And if you want to know why cops approach every call and traffic stop as if somebody is going to try and kill them....well, poo like this

Skip to :55 mark



This kid was just ignorant. At no point did the cop escalate the situation and he was pretty patient. And then this happens.









Also, your numbers need sourcing and even if they are even close to accurate (pssst...they're not, since a quick google shows me several different sets of numbers collected), a lot of it can be explained by cops being better shots, having better/more training, and not blindly firing while fleeing. Your use of "shoot to kill" is nonsensical. How else are you supposed to shoot? Any firing of a cop's service weapon is use of deadly force, whether it hits target or not. If you shoot, you are trained to shoot to kill, since (if you're shooting and all) the suspect is clearly putting yourself or a third party at risk of death or serious bodily injury or is attempting to flee by means of use of a deadly weapon. No weapons training in law enforcement teaches "shoot to wound". If you are shooting, then you are shooting to hit the target until the threat is no longer a threat.

But you're right bro. Cops are just bullies who shoot first and ask questions later.


In Topic: If Cam had Romo's protection...

24 November 2014 - 12:01 AM

lol he does not



Those few throws each game that Cam makes that make you go "wow...nice throw" often come when he's able to stand up tall with great protection. Tape proves it. Maybe you need to watch games more closely. 


In Topic: Season 5: The Walking Dead

23 November 2014 - 11:59 PM

This episode was really good. This show is so much better when they have either the whole group together or they don't focus on just one or two characters (thought I know the practical reasons why they did that this season).

I love the dynamic they're working with throughout the group. They're trying to figure out who they are. They all know of either the Governor or Gareth or both. You can see it in Rick and Daryl really well. Rick is teetering that fine line between losing all humanity and becoming more calculated like he was before Lori died. The group is the only reason he's not entirely ruthless, and I think it's very interesting. I like how this set up next week. It's gonna be fun to see.

I knew Sasha was getting played the second she walked over to him. Dumb, dumb move. At least take somebody with you to cover you.

Any comic fans think Sasha takes the place of Andrea?


In Topic: If Cam had Romo's protection...

23 November 2014 - 11:50 PM

Cam gets that protection at times...and when he does, he often excels.

The problem is consistency in pass protection and the fact that the Cowboys have a consistent run game as well to compliment it and give Romo good chances down field.


We don't need Romo's line. We need Romo's offensive coordinator. Or really ANY offensive coordinator worth a damn.


In Topic: 12-year-old in Cleveland with a BB gun shot by cop

23 November 2014 - 03:22 PM

They are trained to shoot first without hesitation.



Actually, no. They're not (at least, not at any agency that I am aware of). 


Follow commands and this doesn't happen. The kid made a dumb mistake. Well, a couple of them. He had a toy gun with the orange scratched off, which makes it look VERY real. Then, he placed it in his waistband once cops arrive. Then, when told to put his hands up, he goes for the gun in his waistband.

At what point is a cop justified to shoot in this case?

As far as the "going for your license" deal, I assume you mean the case in SC a month or so ago. That was a case of the cop being dumb, but the shooting itself is somewhat understandable (even though the cop sort of set the poor guy up for failure with his terrible command-giving).


Cops often DON'T shoot when they SHOULD shoot. I can provide a lot of dashcam footage from youtube that proves this. It's not easy for any sane person, even cops, to take a life. A lot freeze up and get killed for it.


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