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1st round CB

29 March 2014 - 11:29 AM

Let's assume for a minute that the value at OT and WR aren't there in the first. In that scenario the next most likely position should be CB. Assuming that is the case, who would you want?

I really like Fuller. He fits our scheme perfectly, is big and talented and is likely to be available around our pick.

What say you?

Guys you really like but dont want the Panthers to draft

26 January 2014 - 12:06 AM

Not every player makes sense for the Panthers based on where they are likely to be drafted and strengths we already have on our team.  Some guys I think will be studs, but would not be happy if the Panthers drafted them (where they are expected to get drafted) are:


Kyle Van Noy -OLB

Stephen Tuitt- DE/DT


Any prospects you guys love but dont want the Panthers to draft because they dont fit our needs? 

Charles Johnson's cap figure

16 January 2014 - 12:32 AM

is HUGE! Like $16 mil if Im reading things correctly.  Obviously that is way way too big.  What are our options for making it smaller and how much could we reasonably reduce it by?  He seems like a prime restructuring candidate along with Kalil and Olsen again.  


This and cutting Godrey are really our only hopes for reducing our cap figure significantly. 

Draft: Ideal position value by round

16 January 2014 - 12:25 AM

(based on other threads, figured I could post this here instead of draft forum)


I have done more mocks than is healthy on the two mock draft sites: http://first-pick.co.../DraftGame.aspx and http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock


As such, in a very unscientific way, I have found certain talent depths and tiers per position along with my own amateur scouting using reports and watching video- http://draftbreakdown.com/video/


I also obviously have opinions on what we need (certainly WR/OT/CB, probably in that order), but I think the draft value is the best way to determine what we pick where.  So, from a macro level, i believe the best round by round drafting is:


1 - WR/OT - The top OT are likely to go before us, and the high impact WR will be gone by our 2nd round pick.  If an OT is there, say Lewan, ok take him, but otherwise we would be wise to take a WR.  After Watkins/Evans there is a group of about 6 WR which are all different style players but should have similar value.  After the first 5/6 OT (6 depending how you feel about Antonio Richardson, who very well may be gone by #28 anyways), there is significant depth at the position and you can get someone in the 3/4th at similar on a similar enough level as someone in the 1st.

 *Benjamin, Cooks, Landry, Mathews, Robinson / Lewan, Richardson


2- WR - unless you are a big Moncrief fan and truly think he will drop to the 3rd, its highly likely that most other likely rookie contributors will be gone by our 3 round pick.  Thus its risky to wait and I personally would would to lock in the WR value.  

 *really depends who falls


3- OT/WR - which ever position you didnt take in the first, you take here.  You should find solid OT value, and the WR value takes a serious nosedive after the 3rd. 

 *Hurst, Moses, Bitonio, Henderson / Moncrief, Davis, Richardson

 ** may be some intersting TE still available, so can go TE instead of WR


4- OT - We will need another OT in a year or two if not this year anyways, so best to go ahead and get one now. By the 5th, the liklehood of finding a non-project OT is very slim. 

 *Bitonio, Henderson, James......


5- CB - I dont think our zone system needs top end corner talent and Im not blown away by whats available this year.  That said we need secondary help and the backend of this draft is very deep with interesting talent.  There are a number of nice looking small school prospects as well

 * too many to list.  someone big who can tackle


6- CB/FS

 * see above, also add in FS (prefer CB, as FS or SS is easier to fill in FA)


7- FS/CB/DE - really depends who is available.  DE talent sucks this year, but some interesting late round options as you can never have too many sack artists. 



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