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In Topic: Realistically, how soon can we fire Shula?

26 October 2014 - 05:22 PM

Sorry for the hi-jack, didn't want to start a new thread. Does anyone believe our defense is back to how it was last year? If so I think we have a chance of going on a little run like the middle of last year, despite Shula.

In Topic: Does Cam deserve "the contract" based on this season?

26 October 2014 - 05:05 PM

Cam is NOT a franchise QB. Hes a streaky game manager at beat. Sorry, we can be 3-4-1 for a lot less than the 100 million Cam will demand. Cam is the definitin of inconsistent, he reverted back to his pouty, immature 2011 self today. He has reached his ceiling and full potential, he is as good as hes going to be. Let him walk and draft a QB in the 2nd round or sign one on the cheap, im so over Cam

Cam is not an elite QB...yet, but he is absolutely a franchise QB. We'll have to agree to disagree on that.

And I also don't think he's reached his potential either. Potential and performance are linked to who you have coaching you. We don't have the best offensive minds.

What you said about Cam the chargers could have easily said about Rivers until the hired McCoy, or what the 49ers said about Alex Smith before they hired Jim harbargh or however his name is spelled.

In Topic: Does Cam deserve "the contract" based on this season?

26 October 2014 - 04:49 PM

Cam is NOT an elite QB. He is a pretty good, streaky game manager at best. You guys think we suck now?! Lol just wait until we overpay Cam a huge contract and wont have any money to fix any of our problems.

Ive said it once, ill say it again. Just let Cam walk. Its a win/win for both sides, he will go to a team that will know how to build around him and we wont have to tie up so much money. Im calling it right now. Manning will retire after winning a SB and Broncos will sign Cam. Cam with that O line and WRs would be beastly. He could just like slide right into the starting spot and not skip a beat because of the talent and O line. Cam will be a Bronco next season.

And then what do we do at Quarterback?

Option 1: play DA, who as soon as other teams start game planning for him, will show us exactly why he's a backup.

Option 2: sign a free agent. If you're a quarterback and you're a free agent then it's probably because you are average. The only free agent QB to win a Super Bowl in the last ten years is I think is Drew Brees, though a couple more got close, such as our own Jake Delhomme. The point is there's usually a reason you're on the market.

Option 3: draft a QB of the future. I think the recent success of young QB's in the league have tainted the reality of how hard it is to hit on a quarterback. It's not like if you just let Cam go we'll draft the next big thing the following year. For one in order to be in a position to draft this hypothetical QB we will have to suck and get a top five pick. That or trade up, which will deplete our roster in others places, which is what you were trying to avoid by letting Cam walk.

Ask Tennessee, Oakland, Cleveland and dozens of other teams how hard it is to find a franchise QB, we have one, we have to hold on to him.

We should keep an eye on Baltimore going forward. Joe Flacco is a good QB making elite QB money, let's see how Ozzie maneuvers and works their salary cap with that in mind. Last year they took a step back but that could also be blamed on a Super Bowl hangover that teams tend to have. This year they seem to have worked it out, with a little help from us via Smitty.

In Topic: How could you ever fairly judge Cam with his surrounding talent?

26 October 2014 - 04:19 PM

Russell Wilson played equally as bad or just a little better then Cam did. The difference in the game is his offensive line stepped up on the last drive.

On his GW TD pass Wilson had more time in the pocket then Cam had at any point in the second half. And I could be wrong but I don't remember Wilson having to step up into the pocket either.

And thinking about Cam's weapons or lack thereof, got be reminiscing about all that Jake had to work with and why he was successful.

During the 03 Super Bowl run Jake had a dominant defense, a dominant run game, and a pretty good Oline and pretty good WR's.

Last year all Cam had was a dominant defense. The run game was all him, the Oline was average or below average, and the WR's were below average, though we had a good TE.

During the 05 season, Jake had a good but not great defense, and a spotty running game, but a good Oline and a prime, triple crown Steve Smith. As good as KB is and will be, he ain't touching prime Smitty.

What does Cam have this year -- spotty running game, Average defense, below average offensive line, and promising rookie at wide out.

Lastly in the 08 season, Jake had a good but not great defense, a dominant run game (prime double trouble) an elite Steve Smith, and an great offensive line.

What will Cam have going forward? Who knows, but he hasn't had the horses to do much plan and simple. You give Cam the team Jake had during our three playoff runs and Superman will take us to the promise land.

Oh and Dan Henning>>>>>>Shula.

In Topic: Does Cam deserve "the contract" based on this season?

26 October 2014 - 03:56 PM

Nothing wrong with him defending Jake here. We've had our share of bad QBs, but Jake wasn't one of them. If Cam with his talent showed the same sort of emotion and fire Jake had this conversation isn't even taking place. I'm not saying Jake was better then Cam is, but he was a better leader and he did play with much more heart and you saw it permeate itself throughout the team.

I'm talking about pre Tommy John Jake.

I don't disagree you but it doesn't hurt that he had Prime Steve Smith and a dominant run game most of his time here.

As far as Cam showing emotion, I don't know that it's his personality. If you watch Russell Wilson play, it's the same, he's not an outward emotional guy either, I think they both have plenty of heart.

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