So, five years of great QB play vs. the chance of a draft pick that many people doubt coming in and lighting the world on fire as a rookie?
Think of it this way--would you trade Luck or Newton for Rivers? No. Would you dangle RGIII, Manuel, Gabbert, Bortles, Locker, Ponder, Bradford, or Tannehill for his five years of high level play? These are all guys taken in the first half of the first round in the past five years by teams who are desperately trying to solve their QB problem.
If I'm the Titans and I have the shot, I jump at it. I keep Mettenberger and coach the poo out of him, and ride Rivers for as long as he will last. It's about the only thing I have to gain a little job security.
Mike Remmers was so bad he couldn't stick on the Broncos, the Bucs, the Chargers, or the Vikings. He gets here and lines up next to Turner in our scheme and suddenly he looks like a 10 year starter.
I don't know what to expect from either Oher or Martin, but I do expect us to be better at LT than we were last year. One of them will likely work well next to Norwell, and will be at least as good as if not better than Bell was. And all of the cherry-picked game tape designed to make me angry at the prospect of Martin starting won't change that. That's particularly true of college tape, it was around when he was drafted and people who do this for a living gave him a second round grade.
One thing is for sure--come late October when Oher/Rookie/Whoever goes down and we need a stopgap for a couple of games, it's nice to know that we'll have someone with a little experience instead of a big Canadian turnstile out there.
With Oher and Martin, Amini, Kugbila, and Chandler coming back from injury, and the strong possibility that we take an OT or two in the draft, who do you think our starting five will be on day 1? How about mid-season?
I know it sounds like a joke, but so did the idea of Bell and Chandler being bookends last year; it's possible with our coaching staff's history that we're not just going to plug Oher/Martin/Rookie in at LT and see how the line does.
The numerous mistakes in the playoffs weren't his first time making mistakes fielding punts. Or the second. Or the third. He was poor at it all season. The one in the gif earlier in this thread was the MOST bone-headed of them, but he was bobbling punts and making other mistakes all season long.
Yes, and yet the coaching staff still felt he was the safest option on the roster. Makes you wonder just how bad the other options must have been, huh?
We probably agree that Bersin is lousy at returning kicks. But as a receiver, he did what was asked of him and did it well.
Good enough to beat out Tavares King and keep Stephen Hill on the practice squad. And he made a few clutch first downs. Most of the season he had reliable hands, which is why he was back there fielding punts (if you think it was for his return capability, you're an idiot). Yes, he made a mistake in the playoffs, which has defined his entire season for a lot of people with short memories. But all in all, he made the team against long odds, delivered when he was asked to (12 of his 15 catches were first downs), and had a pretty good year for a rookie UDFA.
says, " Do that again and I will eliminate your ability to reproduce, here and now, with a leg sweep and my teeth", we may be on to something.
I know this is intended as a joke, but there's a ring of truth to it. Basically, Oher has shown he has the talent to perform as a starter. He's also been pretty bad the past few years, and guys who have replaced him have done a better job. We had that same situation here with Evan Mathis.
The Offensive Line is not five guys out there doing their thing, it's a unit. In individual drills, Amini is probably going to look way better than Norwell. No one wanted Remmers. But those two guys looked amazing when they were plugged in with Kalil and Turner, even if neither is the most physically gifted lineman out there. And now we're adding Oher to the mix, a guy with undeniable physical attributes.
Matsko has already coached Oher to some of the best years of his career, which is a good sign. And if he meshes well with Norwell and the rest, he's going to look like a completely different player than he did in Tennessee. And at the end of the day, I can't imagine him not being an upgrade over Bell.
So yeah, he may have sucked in TN, but so what? The last time we got a lineman from the Titans we got one of their great ones, and that guy kind of sucked here. On the offensive line in particular, past performance is no guarantee of future results.
There's no doubt that Cam is a more important part of the offense here than most quarterbacks are, but that doesn't mean he's deserving of more money. It means that we haven't really done a lot around him. If you put any top ten QB in Carolina they would probably win as many or more games, provided you also tailored a game plan to suit their strengths. But if you ask Peyton Manning to avoid the rush the same way Cam does, then you're in for a heavy dose of the backup QB.
So his agent can make the argument all he wants, but if I'm Gettleman I respond with the market value. Paying a player based on how much you think your team depends on him versus what he will bring on the open market leads to the contracts that everyone here has been criticizing over the past few years.