So you are saying that this is going to set precedent for using Executive Orders? That would be a stupid thing to say as it does not appear to address anything about how a President can issue EOs. It just tries to "recind" this one, which is not going to happen, so just like the 50 or whatever votes to get rid of the ACA it's a stupid useless political posture.
Just pass a law the President can sign. That's an actual way to have progress on this. But no, we have to introduce this crap so we get to call Obama an Emperor or whatever. I said it was a waste of time, not you, because it is.
1) I look at the report, regardless of how ugly it is, and evaluate it on its veracity. If you're counting some questions as being out of bounds for you, then you aren't interested in the truth if it ventures from your comfort zone. In this case, special ops is trained to deal with torture because it can yield actionable intelligence to the enemy (which is precisely counter to your point earlier in this thread). Because the CIA is what it is, it cannot necessarily divulge what has been learned through torture for risk of comprimising intelligence and techniques.
2) You are the epitome of an ethical hypocrite for the sake of party line dogma. You're very quick to lay every bit of blame on any Republican while turning a blind eye to the scores of Democrats leading their party that have signed off on that very issue. You are screaming that they are black on the right-side, while you are black on the left-side.
You are poodle mouthpiece for every mouth-breather out there that inwardly shouts "HELL YEAH!" every time you spout off another scrape of party-line drivel. So, when I am responding to you, I'm actually responding to everyone that has this reaction when you post this tripe. Looking back on the past decade (and likely far longer) the differentiation between Republican and Democrat that "serves" in DC are effectively the same. They talk different games but do the exact same things.
For some reason, talk and promises make all the difference for yourself and people like you. It's why Democrats can continually count on you and people like you being a sucker rather than voting the Green Party. It's why Republicans can count on dumbasses like your average NRA-sticker sheeple. Promises for the working class? Promises to support the 2nd amendment? Promises for social justice (whatever the fug that is)? Promises for alternative fuels? Promises for Main Street? Promises to save Social Security? Promises for lower health premiums? The list goes on and on. How's it all working out for ya?
I don't like the Green Party. The Democrat party more closely aligns with my interests. Of course they don't deliver on a lot of things I would want, for a host of different reasons. This is a fault of the two party system.
I also know that some Dems don't agree with me on some things whether in office or not. That happens all the time.
We now have heath care reform. We now have gay marriage, We now have legal marijuana. We haven't invaded anyone in quite a while. Economy is doing as well as it's going to be doing without a minimum wage increase. Women can still get abortions unless they live in a state populated by assholes who spout out on freedoms yet can't seem to get it in their head that their quasi religious philosophy on the subject, while just as valid as anyone elses, is their private opinion and can't be foisted on others.
So yeah I'll cheerlead whenever I feel the desire to, and I'll keep telling you that the USA should not be torturing people, for much the same reason we shouldn't have the death penalty - we tortured people that didn't deserve it, we imprisoned innocent people....if you think that state law enforcement has issues with incarcerating innocent people think about how good a job the Army would do at that.
Your "prepare against interrogation" meme is really stupid for the simple reasons I already laid out and you threw away in your desire to write your rambling essay.
It has nothing to do with the fact that the Muslim nations are generally poor, uneducated, and run by people with no interest in the well being of their citizens, and need an external force to blame for their problems which the fundamentalist nuts are more than happy to provide in order to get ground troops for their escapades.
Wow the Lyrica worked great. Slept for 13 hours. Feeling much better. My wife has convinced me that going to the game tomorrow would be a bad idea and unfortunately I have to agree with her. Our first regular season game together in 2008, for other reasons, I ended up being wheeled out of the stadium in a wheelchair because I thought I would be fine even though I was sick, so I can't really argue with her anymore.