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Posted by panther4life on 06 June 2014 - 05:33 PM
Posted by panther4life on 06 June 2014 - 04:42 PM
Fug the people that dont believe you tell us what you talked about lol
Too late for all that, I already put his picture out there.. Good stuff tho.
Granted there's nothing wrong with saying he was genuinely excited about KB.
Also need to mention, he's very down to earth, super humble, all around great guy to chat with.
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Posted by panther4life on 06 June 2014 - 04:39 PM
Posted by panther4life on 06 June 2014 - 04:11 PM
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For the record this has nothing to do with my post yesterday... I had a good chat with him but if I magically made another post about another anonymous player ya'll would think I was full of crap..
I will say this....He's super impressed by Benjamin.
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Posted by panther4life on 05 June 2014 - 09:00 PM
As far as why he's so high on Bell...nobody wants to hear it but he thinks LT is his natural position and he thinks its a better fit for him...the dude by no means is saying he will be a pro bowler just not the scrub we make him out to be(myself included)...His confidence in Bell seemed legit to me. He seemed absolutely certain he would win the job over Chandler.
I mentioned how impressed I was with Chandler in preseason at LT, last year and personally thought he had a good chance at winning the job. He said from an athletic standpoint Chandler is a beast but the game is more mental than casual fans realize and thats the leg up that Bell has on him that will likely win him the job. The coaches already know this but it makes sense to give Chandler reps there,not only for competetion but for experience in case of injury as well too.
It's not like I have some kind of Agenda here and trying to convince y'all Bell is the man, when I've never said anything but the opposite.
Anyway it's annoying as hell that a handful of you think I'd make any of this poo up, it's not like I'm making any crazy assertions or assumptions or starting any groundbreaking rumors,
In addition to that, he thinks even if Bell were to struggle that our coaches are smart enough to scheme around it. Basically said they have a huge play book but shrink it down on game days to cherry pick the plays and formations that will provide them the most success for whoever we are facing that given week.
Posted by panther4life on 05 June 2014 - 06:04 PM
Just going to post thing's we talked about as they come to me....Funny thing is he was reluctant to say too much, I said come on man I am not a reporter..he said yea but you could be blogging..So needless to say I won't say who it was..Plus we talked at my work place so def. not going to give up his name but trust me this info is real from somone who def. knows what's going on.
-Sounded very confident Bell is going to win the LT job. Confident he will be a better LT than he was RT. Said Gary Williams would have been in this competition to if he didn't get hurt last year.
-Says Chandler is an athlete and has the advantage of having less wear and tear on his body since he has not been an NFL o-lineman as long as Bell has.
-Told him I was shocked we didn't take a Tackle in the draft... Said well that should tell you something, they didn't need to. His confidence mirrors that of Gettleman's in regards to having faith in those 2.
-Showed him PFF saying Bell gave up 9 sacks at RT last year, said man no he did not....He also pointed out PFF's love affair with Evan Mathis almost as a way to discredit them..Mentioned PFF and NFL Network love Mathis for some reason.
-Avant has been very impressive at OTA's..."I don't think he's dropped a ball yet"
-The DE depth is not as strong as it looks...Ealy unlikely to be a big impact this year, takes time to groom DE's.
-DT depth is legit. Star will be a perennial Pro Bowler. Won't get credit he's due but he allows others to make plays. Mentioned you really need to have 4 solid DT's and we have that....close your eyes SCP..A co-worker chimed in and said they got that guy from Canada too...to which the guy just kind of shrugged and laughed off.(basically implying he sucks).
-Said fans put way too much in stock in LT VS RT and # 1 WR, ETC. Can always scheme around deficiencies.
-Charles Johnson is probably the strongest D-lineman on the whole team.
System makes the player good, fans make the player famous.
Need to diversify my hobbies if I am reading up on OTA's lol.
The help of veterans is priceless in development for rookies/young players.
Panthers organization is "first class" in regards to how the players are treated.
Spoke about failed drug test.. Totally random and easy for a player to fail for banned substances. For instance water pills can get you in trouble for a diluted sample. Said he hates it when people on the radio say well why didn't the players go the team doctors or trainer's...What they don't know is some team doctors won't put in the time to do the research for you and instead will say "go to the website". Panthers guys will absolutely go out of their way to help tho.
Once you hit 30 teams are looking to replace you, so its important to make as much as you can while you can.
Asked me my favorite players of all time, I said Smith and mentioned how much I liked Peppers until he dipped on us. Said things were not as they seemed when it came to that. I asked if he was forced out..he said not but they were not super upset when he left...Almost made it seem as if we didn't want to pay him and then I said come on now Hurney was good to everyone....His response to that was priceless...
"I love Marty Hurney, My kids love Marty Hurney,my wife loves Marty Hurney, hell my momma loves Marty Hurney."
And the most shocking statement of all..... "Look out for my boy Bersin this year!" I said come on now, do you even think he's going to make the roster?" If he doesn't he'll be back on the PS... Just keep an eye out for him."
Fan's hating on Williams/Stewart because of their cap hit's is stupid.
On Otah flaming out.....Things just happened way to fast for him..Hard to explain.
"I loved Steve Smith, but some didn't know how to take him." Forgot how he worded it but essentially said what we all suspected..His on the field talent was not enough to justify his antic's that rubbed people the wrong way. Didn't really give much insight in what he did, but just said some people didn't know how to take him.
Said he loved hearing the perspective from a fan's point of view as he does not get to hear it often. He really seemed shocked I was not high on Byron Bell, which surprised me.
Posted by panther4life on 05 June 2014 - 10:16 AM
**yes I realize I spelled his name wrong and can't edit thread titles.
Not so much in terms of the dollar amount but more in a sense of the structure.
http://www.spotrac.c...lin-kaepernick/ (best breakdown of the whole contract).
The contract has a potential to be worth up to 126 Million through 2020.
However the only money he is truly guaranteed to see is around 13.1 Million.
He got a signing bonus of 12,328,000 (Essentially cash in fist the moment the contract is signed)....The additional 100 % guaranteed portion is this years salary and 645k + 100k workout bonus.
The contract runs through 2020. Starting in 2015 and running til the end (2020) 2 million per year can only be earned if he plays 80% of the snaps and either makes the superbowl or is named 1st or 2nd team all pro.
The salaries from 2015-2017 are fully guaranteed only if he is not cut before april 1st of that year
Additionally 2 million per year is in the form of per game bonuses...125k per game.
The dead money if he is cut is only from the small signing bonus as long as they cut him before April 1st. Take a look a spotrac's breakdown of the dead money and then compare it to Jonathan Stewart's if he was cut and prepare to amp up more anger for Hurney..
Lastly the money in the last 2 years of the contract (a total of 44.6 million) has 0 guarantee or anything that will cause a penny in dead money if they decide to cut bait on him..
I love these incentive laden contracts as it gives a player the opportunity to earn above their market value if they perform. On the flip side it gives the team a nice escape clause if the player does not hold up their end of the bargain.
I'd much rather see Hardy sign a contract like this vs. handing him a check for 30 million (like CJ's deal) up front and make him prove he's worth the money on and off the field even if it cost a little extra in the long run.
Posted by panther4life on 05 June 2014 - 09:14 AM
Actual contract details coming out today. 49ers aren't anywhere near as stupid as it appeared. There are a lot incentives built into the contract, the team can cut him April 1st each year, only like 12.5 million is in the signing bonus, the other "guaranteed money" can actually be voided. For example there's a large bonus if the 49ers make the Super Bowl or Colin is first or second team all pro.
Basically he only gets paid like an elite QB if he plays like one, and if he starts to suck, the 49ers can move on fairly easily. Pretty slick deal on the 49ers part all things considered.
" Technically, the deal has $61 million guaranteed, even though $6 million of the guaranteed salary could evaporate (more on that later). Either way, only $13.073 million is guaranteed at signing. It comes in the form of a $12.328 million signing bonus, a base salary of $645,000, and a workout bonus of $100,000.
For 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and part of 2018, the base salaries are guaranteed only for injury. On April 1 of each year, the guarantees convert from injury only to fully guaranteed. That gives the 49ers the ability to decide, in any given year, to move on from Kaepernick. And with the deadline for the conversion of the guarantee coming on April 1, the 49ers can squat on his rights until several weeks after the start of free agency, making it harder for him to get paid elsewhere.
The base salary for 2015 is $12.4 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2015.
For 2016, the base salary is $13.9 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2016.
For 2017, the base salary is $16.5 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2017.
For 2018, the base salary is $17 million, $5.2 million of which is guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2018.
The non-guaranteed base salary for 2019 is $18.8 million, and the non-guaranteed base salary for 2020 is $21 million.
In each year from 2015 through 2020, however, there’s a catch. A big one. The total payout potentially de-escalates by $2 million per year, with up to $12 million potentially going away."
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Great job by the niners front office. The 60 million guaranteed is fluff. Spotrac broke it down even further.
They can easily cut bait any year with very small ramifications to their cap. Its like the anti Jonathan Stewart contract.
Posted by panther4life on 29 May 2014 - 08:34 AM
Forgot to add a few things...... he was asked about why he didn't address offensive tackle in free agency or the draft.
Couldn't afford a Tackle in free agency..no where near enough cap space. Reiterated that no tackle in the draft would have been more ready to go immediately than Bell/Chandler
Was asked about his favorite part of being GM of the panthers.. Said the cliffnotes version is winning. Long story of it is he is a teacher a heart(pronounces heart like "hot")..and loves teaching guys things he's learned.
Totally tunes out media/fans when making decisions. He gathers info from Beane,Gregory,Rivera/Rob Rogers and after digesting that info goes with his gut on the right decisions to make.
Posted by panther4life on 29 May 2014 - 08:14 AM
Caught it on the ride in to work...
Spoke about having faith in Chandler and Bell.. Said young guys need time to develop and prove themselves..Has faith that they will.
Spoke about Chandler's work ethic. Worked with Jackie Slater (former nfl RT) the past 2 offseasons and has done everything they have asked of him. Said a Tackle needs 5k reps in practice/games to develop and he's getting close to that.
Does not think the team is taking a step back(he says this every time)..Goal is to win the division,and then get to the promised land.
Made it clear the Steve Smith decision was more of an on the field decline vs being a locker room cancer.
He was specifically asked if his presence in the locker room and his response was...it was purely a football decision and he wishes him luck in B-more.
On his faith in the new receiving core...Said well its a very different group, starting with the big rookie.. Then he mentioned Cotchery as another legitimate redzone threat(alluded to his 10 TD's last year).Said Cotchery and Avant are just very smart football players.
Underwood is a vertical threat, different speed then Ginn. Said Ginn is 0-60 in.05 seconds where Underwood builds up to it and once he does he can blow the top off a defense.
Mentioned the young guns again and the biggest problem they have is making sure everyone gets a fair share of reps so everyone can be properly evaluated.
Said Benjaimin has "A+" hands. Said you need to be patient with him as he is a rookie but his got some unique talents that can help him.
Marqise Lee- was rated side by side with Benjamin on the board, size won.