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#2779446 Gettleman and Rivera post-Draft presser

Posted by panther4life on 10 May 2014 - 07:35 PM

Then why did he put Pressley in there with the receivers?

Person also said that he thinks Pressley is playing WR.

Also it might have happened a while back so it might not be a position switch.


Sorry dude I don't know and honestly didn't hear him mention Pressley


#2779389 Gettleman and Rivera post-Draft presser

Posted by panther4life on 10 May 2014 - 07:17 PM

In the presser GMAN through corner De'Andre Pressley in the same sentence as King, McNutt, and Bersin saying that they have skills.

I wonder if Pressley is now playing WR.



He was specifically asked if any other players were changing position outside of Godfrey and said no.


#2777445 5th Round - Carolina trades up, selects CB Bene Benwikere in the 5th round.

Posted by panther4life on 10 May 2014 - 01:28 PM

I can't be the only who thought this was a joke




#2776259 Immediate thoughts vs more rational thinking.

Posted by panther4life on 10 May 2014 - 10:31 AM

Your immediate reaction on Ealy was right. Benjamin 6'5 with Robinson 6'2 could have been nightmare with a QB like Cam. Too much insurance policy on the DL. The good thing about Ealy is we have no mobile QB in our division so we can feast. That's the only positive I can find with the Ealy pick.

 

If we could trade down today to get Bryant I would be a happier fan.

 

Another GM could have easily thought the same way.Such as the Jags GM who picked up Lee and Robinson to help their new QB out.

 

The Eagles did it too. They took Matthews and Huff.

 

Still would have been my preferred choice too but instead of being pissed off about decisions I have no control over, I figured I'd try and understand why it makes sense.




#2776191 Immediate thoughts vs more rational thinking.

Posted by panther4life on 10 May 2014 - 10:02 AM

I was wonder what you thought so far.

 

You do realize your'e not obligated to click on every thread and comment on them. 




#2776154 Immediate thoughts vs more rational thinking.

Posted by panther4life on 10 May 2014 - 09:41 AM

1. Kelvin Benjamin

 

Immediate reaction.

At first I was shocked. I wasn't super happy or pissed. Just kind of in the middle. The guy's physical attributes and ceiling are undeniable.I have wanted a legit big body redzone threat for Cam ever since we drafted him. We have that now. I would have been 10 times more excited about the pick if I didn't read so much into Gettleman's previous comments about running a full route tree, wide receivers taking a long time to assimilate and wanting a player who can start immediately with the top 3 picks.

 

My other problem is I thought well damn we can grab a receiver in round 2 and had a nice selection of Tackles that can come in and protect Cam immediately.

 

Rational reaction

Bottom line is I have come around to love this pick and am very pleased he's the one we got. I seriously think he has the potential to be the best receiver out of this class when its all said and done. Especially in the redzone. I also have to realize that we are going back to a physical run team that can help eat clock and wear defenses down. The dude can block and while he hasn't been super consistent he has shown the ability to make catches a few other receivers in the NFL can make. Gettleman said it best with you can teach 6'5 240, but in addition to that you can't teach the incredible ball skills the guy has displayed at times.

 

 

2. Kony Ealy

 

Immediate reaction

When the pick came up and Allen Robinson was available I was seeing the future. A nice compliment to Benjamin and not only the best receiving core Cam has had yet but also a young one to grow with him for a long time. I just knew he was the pick. The boom, we take Ealy. I honestly did not do much heavy research on this guy and still have not to the degree that I plan to. Again I remember Gettleman talking about having players who could start immediately with our first 3 picks and said to myself how in the hell is the guy going to see the field behind Hardy and Johnson??

 

Rational reaction

Well after trying to wrap my brain around it...the more I could see the positives in it. Depth is good thing to have on the d-line. When CJ was out last year we missed him. This guy can come in and spell CJ/Hardy and Even Star on 3rd and longs. He's also good insurance in case we can't keep Hardy long term, or unable to lower CJ's cap figure down the road. We have a very young, very talented and very deep front four now, which is the backbone of our team (aside from Cam). Some are assuming this spells the end for Johnson or Hardy if we can't come to terms on a long term deal. However I'd love to keep all 3 here as long as possible.

 

3 Trai Turner

 

Immediate reaction

Okay, I have heard of this name and thank god we picked a position of need. 

 

My thinking has not changed much on this pick. I have researched him a bit further. I like that he's used to playing RG already and won't have to worry about switching to the left. I think he is an immediate upgrade to anyone not named Amini at the the guard spot for us. He has similar ability to Amini and really fortifies the interior of our line. I think we can finally run the ball up the gut again consistently now and 4th 1 will be an easier conversion for us now. I could be wrong on this but I think the reason he fell is because of not playing LG, which teams typically value more, however this works out perfect for us as we needed a good RG much more than LG.

 

 

 




#2774441 No matter what Gman does some of you won't hop off his dick

Posted by panther4life on 09 May 2014 - 08:40 PM

And it's sickening


#2774013 2nd Round Pick Kony Ealy DE

Posted by panther4life on 09 May 2014 - 08:15 PM

Not cool with this....Robinson and Moses still on the board


#2771660 WR's than run 4.5 or slower

Posted by panther4life on 09 May 2014 - 10:39 AM

Plaxico 6'5 232 33 inch vertical 4.56 40

KB       6'5 240  32 inch vertical 4.61 40

 

Thats as close to a pro comparison as youre going to get.....Granted I hate pro comparison's as every player is a unique individual and the teams they join are even more unique. But anyway here's some tidbits about Burress coming out that were also similar to things being said about Benjamin.. BTW Burress went 8th overall to the Steelers in 00.

 

The Giants picked him up in 05 while Gettleman was the pro personnel director.

 

 

 

http://sportsillustr...ers_burress_ap/

 

 

 The Pittsburgh Steelers know Plaxico Burress has a reputation for occasionally being as much trouble to his own team as he is to opposing cornerbacks.

For not running disciplined routes.

For missing appointments.

 

Even if Burress passed up his first scheduled interview with the Steelers. He later apologized to Cowher and visited with the Steelers in Pittsburgh.

Burress also failed to show up for a similar meeting with Philadelphia, and the Eagles reportedly took him off their draft board because of it.

 

 

Burress lacks the speed of a Peter Warrick, running a relatively slow 4.56 40-yard dash on Michigan State's fast track, but his size should present problems to undersized cornerbacks.

 

 

Burress' assets are his size, athletic ability, good hands, balance and body control. The downsides are his reputedly poor practice habits, occasional dropped passes and a penchant for free-lancing.
 



#2771574 Kelvin Benjamin's Weight?

Posted by panther4life on 09 May 2014 - 10:10 AM

Gettleman said he wants him to stay right where hes at.




#2770052 Gettleman with the biggest smokescreen ever

Posted by panther4life on 08 May 2014 - 10:29 PM

Gettleman talked me out of this guy with every presser he had talking about WR's who ran the route tree and how hard it is to get them to assimilate quickly.

I'm eating crow day 1 and trusting Gettleman. Prototype Reveiver for Cam. Lets gets him coached up!


#2769564 General Round 1 Draft Talk

Posted by panther4life on 08 May 2014 - 10:04 PM

If we don't go offense it's going to be Roby IMO


#2767019 why the carolina panthers will not* go bpa

Posted by panther4life on 08 May 2014 - 02:06 PM

I think Gettleman is being slightly disingenuous when he suggests BPA. What he means if there is a player whose value you can't ignore is there at 28 you take him. Doesn't mean if you have a DT who is a 23rd pick value and a WR who is 27th pick value you just take the DT because he is slighty better.

 

 

Pure BPA makes no sense.

 

^^^

This is the best and simplest way to explain it.

 

Not 1 single NFL team has just a vertical big board.

 

Vertical Boards are organized by position.

 

Then you also have a horizontal board to basically help you do what Happy Panther just explained.

 

You can find leaked pics of the Cowboys draft room from a couple years ago that shows you these vertical and horizontal boards if you google them.

 

Also I believe (not 100% certain) that Bill Parcells broke the vertical and horizontal boards down pretty well in the "draft confidentail" series he did on ESPN a few years ago.




#2765052 Bob Mcginn top 100 out plus some other draft nuggets.

Posted by panther4life on 07 May 2014 - 12:29 PM

http://www.jsonline..../258319491.html

 

Keep in mind this guy averages hitting on 84.4 out of the first 100 players taken, so this means roughly 80 of these guys will likely gone by our 3rd round pick at 92.

http://www.thehuddle...ng/top100.shtml

 

Here's the players he has at our top 3 needs

 

 

 

WIDE RECEIVERS (15) – Sammy Watkins, Clemson; Mike Evans, Texas A&M; Odell Beckham, Louisiana State; Brandin Cooks, Oregon State; Marqise Lee, Southern California; Cody Latimer, Indiana; Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt; Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State; Allen Robinson, Penn State; Davante Adams, Fresno State; Jarvis Landry, Louisiana State; Donte Moncrief, Mississippi; Martavis Bryant, Clemson; Paul Richardson, Colorado; Kevin Norwood, Alabama.
 

 

 

TACKLES (7) – Greg Robinson, Auburn; Jake Matthews, Texas A&M; Taylor Lewan, Michigan; Ja’Wuan James, Tennessee; Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama; Jack Mewhort, Ohio State; Morgan Moses, Virginia.


 

 

 

CORNERBACKS (13) – Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State; Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State; Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech; Bradley Roby, Ohio State; Jason Verrett, Texas Christian; Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Nebraska; Ross Cockrell, Duke; Pierre Desir, Lindenwood; Aaron Colvin, Oklahoma; Bashaud Breeland, Clemson; Marcus Roberson, Florida; Rashaad Reynolds, Oregon State; Jaylen Watkins, Florida.


 

 

Mark Domenik(former Bucs gm) says these 10 are First round locks.

 

 

Mark Dominik ‏@MarkdominikESPN  Apr 23

At wide receiver, Watkins, Evans, Lee, Beckham and Cooks. Offensive Tackles are Lewan, Matthews, Robinson, Martin and James

 

And finally is you want to see some advanced college stats you need to check out this guys twitter and scroll down to the photos( he posted screenshots of really good in depth college stats of some of the top prospects...just click on the link and you wont regret it)

 

https://twitter.com/JPSTATS

 




#2763991 Ja'Wuan James at 28?

Posted by panther4life on 06 May 2014 - 06:35 PM

Curious as to what qualifies you to provide "proper evaluation" on a prospect?

Not calling you out, but I see this a lot and it usually makes be chuckle.


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I respect the opinion of someone like Medlinheel who watches games to form his own opinion much more than those who just read scouting reports and take them for gold. While he's no pro scout, nor is anyone else on the internet..

No need to be an ass about it. His opinion is as good as anyone else's on here and if you disagree then block him or counter his argument with some logic of your own. We are all fans of the same team so I never understood the talking down to each other

Anyway I am not trying to start an internet battle here, just got annoyed at your response. So I apologize in advance if I too am coming across as an Ass.




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