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#2732049 Jim Rome LOVES the Avant signing

Posted by TheRed on 08 April 2014 - 05:32 PM

Both Avant and Cotchery will be clutch for us.

Share your oversized cookies with us. Now.

#2732014 Joe Person & Jonathan Jones putting our receiving corp into (Rivera's...

Posted by TheRed on 08 April 2014 - 05:08 PM

no we don't. Want to keep Cam around? Win. Build a dynasty and win. Make him believe that by staying here he will get rings. Gman knows what the fug he's doing. Finally, we have someone in our FO who knows what the fug they are doing.

To keep Cam around we first have to keep him upright. All the talk about WR's, people forget the OL.

#2731863 Arthur Blank “bothered” at Falcons’ reaction to a hit on Matt Ryan

Posted by TheRed on 08 April 2014 - 02:40 PM

That's a dirty hit.

Well, it's the Saints.

#2731731 Agree/disagree: LaFell is better than Cotchery, Underwood, and Avant

Posted by TheRed on 08 April 2014 - 01:32 PM

Endpoint bias in numbers not personal bias.

It is the same reason that CRA was claiming that Deangelo is a fumbling problem after he had 2 fumbles in our home opener against Seattle. As most of us suspected it was a fluke.

edit: and the same reason that people were predicting decades of massive hurricanes after 2005.

I think we both know to take anything that CRA says about Deangelo Williams with a grain of salt.

#2731643 Wide Receiver Roundup

Posted by TheRed on 08 April 2014 - 12:49 PM

Fact of the matter is Underwood put up 440 yards last year in 12 games with Mike Glennon throwing to him. The year before that he put up 425 in 14 games with Josh Freeman throwing to him. Glennon was a rookie, and last I checked, Freeman was still looking for a team.

Give the guy a chance with Cam.

#2731608 Agree/disagree: LaFell is better than Cotchery, Underwood, and Avant

Posted by TheRed on 08 April 2014 - 12:30 PM

Thing you have to remember about Lafell is he had very similar production from 2011 to 2013 and his hands were great for the first two of those years with only 4 drops total. 2010 and 2013 were worse. His drop rate is pretty much identical to Smith's over the last four years.

Cotchery also managed 8 drops in 2010 which was among the worst rates in the league.

Not sure why anyone thinks this is a huge upgrade or downgrade besides the contract size

Are we really talking about 4 years ago? Cotchery had 10 touchdowns last year. LaFell had 5, and none of those came in the final 5 games of the season (including the playoff game) where we needed him the most.

What ultimately matters is how LaFell performed in a contract year, and when Steve Smith missed time. He disappeared. I always liked LaFell, and I wish him well in New England, but I'm not going to kid myself, if he had showed up to close the season we may likely have given him an extension. He didn't, and that's that.

#2730685 "Big people beat up little people"

Posted by TheRed on 07 April 2014 - 07:41 PM

I honestly fear for DG. Cookie as thick as a laptop? Dang man.

I'm kind of jealous, that sounds amazing.

#2730541 Panthers Sign Avant to 1 Year Deal

Posted by TheRed on 07 April 2014 - 06:38 PM

If you ever were in a locker room in college or the pros you would know that coaches are not there all the time and much goes under the radar in the locker room. Players who hold each other accountable and yet are accessible and care about each other on a personal level are invaluable in a locker room and make a huge difference. Players are not going to coaches when they are struggling or have problems for fear that any problem or weakness will hurt their chances to make the team.Particularly when they are at risk of not making the roster or are struggling for playing time. They go to leaders on the team like Thomas Davis who understand the fear and doubt and issues.
Coaches do their job but it is older players and vets who control the locker and determine the culture there.

And honestly it is hard to know how much to blame any one person for our poor drafting history with wide receivers. While I wouldn't blame Smitty for their failures, he also did little to help them. I remember that for 1 camp I think Jarrett said that Smitty refused to talk to him until he made the final team. It was Smitty's way. For much of his career he was somewhat of a loner and didn't get that involved with other players let alone the rookies and bubble players.

Please forgive me if I'm not going to bring out the violin for Dwayne Jarrett.

#2730525 Panthers Sign Avant to 1 Year Deal

Posted by TheRed on 07 April 2014 - 06:33 PM

That's what I just said. My point was the help would've given an extra boost. You can throw an intern to the wolves and say "every man is responsible for himself" and watch him fail. Or you can throw him into a work place where he knows he can get the help he needs and has a higher probability of succeeding than just being thrown to the wolves. If he succeeds, great. If not, then he's not the employee you need. In the end he's still "responsible for himself". Acting like the environment doesn't help or destroy a person is being naïve.

Problem is this isn't some intern at some shitty company making shitty money. These are athletes, being paid very well, with numerous professional coaches who have been around the league for quite a long time with them there when they need them. There are also many many more players on the team, some of which have also been around the league for quite some time. Let's be real here. These players either want the money and the bright lights, or they want the game and to cement their place in it's history.

#2730469 Panthers Sign Avant to 1 Year Deal

Posted by TheRed on 07 April 2014 - 06:12 PM

This notion that Steve Smith was because some of the receivers we drafted didn't work out is ludicrous.

Considering players like Drew Carter, Keary Colbert, and Dwayne Jarrett pretty much fizzled out of the league entirely shortly there after that should tell you all that you need to know. But no, apparently that blame falls on another player, not those individuals themselves.

Either these guys want it or they don't, that's all there is to it.

#2730457 Panthers Sign Avant to 1 Year Deal

Posted by TheRed on 07 April 2014 - 06:06 PM

If we are being honest Steve Smith really didn't mentor young guys over the course of his tenure here. 89 did him and that's okay. I have to think both Avant and Cotchery will be more useful that 89 would have been in that regard. Both are sure handed veterans and both touted as great locked room guys. Those are things every young QB and every young receiving corps needs.

Can we please get off this already.

It's not any of our receivers jobs to hold hands. We have coaches.

#2730031 Jason Avant Visiting Panthers Monday

Posted by TheRed on 07 April 2014 - 01:45 PM

Can we not make this a fugging Steve Smith thread please?

#2729588 is being proud of being white wrong?

Posted by TheRed on 07 April 2014 - 12:52 AM

I agree with OP that the hypocrisy is absurd, assuming that's what he was taking away from it. Everyone in the thread is redirecting everything toward white pride when the bigger issue was that no one seems to have any complaints about brown pride, black pride, aboriginal pride, gay pride etc.


And I do mix gay in because it is the same people who are so opposed to any display of white pride, who ignore any display of other pride in other races, who are adamant that homosexuality is a predisposition and an inherent trait. So then why would anyone have pride in it? It's rubbish.


You can't be proud to be white, You can't be proud to be heterosexual. You can't be proud to be Christian. Everything else is fine though.


Just recently Jay Z (stupid name, ignorant person, illiterate person, horrible musician) was at a Brooklyn Nets game (scum city - only decent people there are hasidic Jews) and he was wearing a black pride necklace from a group that believes white people are 'wicked and evil'.


Clearly there is a double standard and that's what the topic was about until the brainwashed leftists reverted back to their training.


Of course this isn't making major headlines but if Brad Pitt was at the game with a swastika tattoo I bet that would be news. No, instead Brad Pitt adopts foreign children and donates to charity.


I take pride in being nothing like a degenerate piece of trash like Jay Z. I'll leave it at that.




Are you seriously a real person? Good grief.

#2729232 Mozilla CEO ousted for views in 2008

Posted by TheRed on 06 April 2014 - 07:27 PM

Just call it what it really is, you don't want to see gays getting married. Enough of this "traditional family", "pro family" bullshit. If you want to be a bigot fine, but don't call it something else and act like you are doing something noble. Get out of here with that garbage.

#2729213 Auto loan for an older vehicle from a private seller?

Posted by TheRed on 06 April 2014 - 07:09 PM

Just say fug it and go all in on this one.


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