You want to talk about Cam, go right ahead. You want to talk about him dropping back, reading the field, his arm, his long jump, pretty much anything else....go right ahead, I will join you. I get tired of folks talking about how bad they feel for him, how wrongly the FO has done him, how he should hold out if he doesn't have a new deal.
Are you a Cam Newton fan or a Panthers fan? I want to win, I want this team to be consistent, you, seemingly want wide receivers so Cam can look good on the tube. fug that, lets win.
You think that I don't want a new OL? Or how about a set of running backs that can actually help us in the run game? What I do understand is the state of this franchise, and why those things have not been put in place yet. You won't try that hard, you will just bitch and moan about how good the Colts have treated Luck, and how badly we have treated Cam.
And exactly, what do you mean by moving forward?
Moving forward as in, why is anyone in the year 2014 asking other Panthers fans asinine questions like "Are you a Cam fan, or a Panthers fan?". As if you cannot support Newton and other Panthers players at the same time. Why should that even be a question anyway?
I've seen very few people actually realistically suggesting that he should "hold out". Yes there are people concerned with what our FO has done so far to build around him, and whether you like it or not, that is a legitimate concern, and certainly a topic that is worthy of discussion.
As far as Andrew Luck goes, you brought him up, not me.
I get tired of the Cam fanboys overreacting to every single damn thing that goes on in this organization.
Cam deserves better.....Pay the man.....Luck gets all the glory....why does the media hate Cam....Dilfer said the Panthers see Cam as a running back.....
It never freaking stops. He is a great football player, but these dudes run around here like his mother.
He's the face of our franchise, he's going to be here for a long time, people are going to talk about him. Accept it, or find a new team. Quite frankly, the more I read responses like this, the more I think we really haven't moved very far forward since the days before we drafted him.
Well now that we've seen what our defense looks like without him. If he does end up playing for the Panthers again this season, and the defense looks like it did last year, his chances of a big payday could go up again substantially. Especially if he is ultimately found innocent.
Dilfer kept rambling on about the Panthers supposedly viewing Newton as a tailback instead of a quarterback because Cam ran the ball in crucial situations against the Bengals. I don't think he was knocking Cam, his remarks seemed to be more about the coaching staff.
You can spare yourself the time listening to it, overall he really didn't make a whole lot of sense anyway. The goal is to get first downs, and reach the end zone. Doesn't matter if it's through the air or on the ground, it's about putting points on the board. Newton does what he has to.
You don't need a Luck comparison to see that our FO has done a piss poor job building on offense through the draft the last several years.
Honestly there are simply too many front office cheerleaders here to have a real discussion about this anyway.
The "But Marty Hurney done stole our salary cap 3 years ago guys!" mantra we see parroted over and over has become more annoying than the "It is what it is" we heard for so many years from John Fox. Ironically, many people here routinely and blindly praised Hurney for his moves.
Also, as intelligent a man as Mr. Scot is, attempting to have a discussion with him about front office failures is entirely a waste of time.
I get so tired of hearing about how Andrew Luck inherited a bad team like they were the worst squad in the last 20 years or something.
The Colts tanked the poo out of the 2011 season in order to secure their chances at drafting Luck.
Irsay knew damn well that Andrew Luck was his only shot at success after sending Peyton off. Anyone who believes otherwise is simply lying to themselves. The Colts had a solid squad to start, but they were actually able to build through the draft during and after drafting Luck.
Luck is the real deal, but his GM has actually acquired him some talent. Our FO can't even draft a fugging starter on the OL.
Our WR situation isn't the best it could be, but it's acceptable. We need a real OL for our franchise QB. It's abysmal.
We play the Bucs twice a year. They swept us in Cam's second season. No game in the NFL is a gimme. You have to win it. Also the division is weak this year, time to "feast" too.
I personally wouldn't put the Bucs in the same breath as the Jaguars. I think they are better than their record, and if I'm being honest, things might have been pretty different if Lovie hadn't been so stubborn and just given Mike Glennon the start from the beginning.
As far as our division goes, it's damn sure not AFC south level weak. The Titains are 1-4. and the Jaguars are 0-5.
It's pretty much always the individuals who were strongly opposed and very outspoken about not wanting the Panthers to draft Newton in the first place who rant on and on about other fans supposedly being homers for having the gall to support our franchise quarterback.