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#3052265 NFL's Greatest Games Superbowl 38

Posted by Car123 on 28 October 2014 - 09:42 PM

We had a lot of weapons back then.

#3048843 Kevin Durant responding to a criticism of Cam

Posted by Car123 on 27 October 2014 - 01:06 PM

I was browsing other forums yesterday. Most said the coordinator needs to be fired.

#3046346 Gettledog's plan

Posted by Car123 on 26 October 2014 - 04:52 PM

I would never franchise my QB. After 5 seasons you should know what you have. Either offer him a contract or let him go. I, personally don't want to get into Jay Cutler territory where we are paying a guy a huge paycheck with no real shot at winning. There are just team out there that have built their team with expensive QBs and you know they aren't winning anything of substance in part bc of their QB..Bears, Lions, Falcons, Chiefs. They all have QBs with huge contracts and virtually nothing to show for it.

Peyton didn't win a playoff game until his 6th season.

#3038783 Newton Positive? Reed's latest article not too convincing to me for some...

Posted by Car123 on 23 October 2014 - 03:17 PM

Olsen has always had good production. Ginn is having a great year with Arizona. He did not revive Smith's career. Smith is on track to double is production in Baltimore compared to last year.

Ginn only has 5 receptions.. Olsen never eclipsed 700 yards in Chicago and was never a top 10 TE there.

As for Smith, have you forgotten he had 987 yards followed by 500 the year before Cam arrived? He then had a 1400 yard season and a pro bowl spot. 1200 yards in 2012.

#3038755 Newton Positive? Reed's latest article not too convincing to me for some...

Posted by Car123 on 23 October 2014 - 03:04 PM

Denver is a little different. Peyton walked into a good team. He makes players around him better. Welker is a good player but look who has been his qbs. He didn't blow up when he played in Miami. He blew up when he played with Brady. A lot of wr's would look good if they either had Brady or Manning as their QB. This is the only problem with Cam. He doesn't really make his teammates that much better yet. In fact, whenever DA has come into the game there's been hardly 0 drop off in production. Steve Smtih is a good example. Compare his numbers this year with Flacco to last year with Newton. Same thing with Lafell. Hell, Cotchery had 10 td grabs with Roethlisberger last year. Now I'm not saying Newton doesn't make us a better team, but the reality is a lot of qbs could have put up the same amount of points this year with our team as he has, barring the Cincy game.

The point is, the QB truly has to be elite to earn that kind of contract. If you give a QB that's just good that same contract then you end up being a perpetual fringe playoff team. Look at the Falcons. Look at how the Saints have deteriorated since Brees got that contract. The same thing will happen to Cincy. You're starting to see it now with the Seahawks as they prepare to resign Wilson. The same thing is going to happen to the 49ers as the reality of Kaep's contract start to sink in.

We're in a worse situation then any of those aforementioned teams. We were cap strapped when we drafted Cam, and we'll be cap strapped when it comes time to negotiate. Denver had money to play with going into signing Manning. If we resign Newton with a god awful contract the it will seriously inhibit our ability to put weapons around him primarily because there's not much flexibility even entering into the negotiations.

I really wouldn't be surprised to see Cam go somewhere else. I'll get flamed for this, but the reality is, is that despite how good Cam is we might have a better chance of getting better without him because we can address all of our glaring needs with solid talent. Not saying we would....just seeing how DG might think so.

Cam still has a lot of growing to do. While he's a great runner, he doesn't have great pocket presence. He holds the ball to long. He doesn't work the flats quick enough.

Cam doesn't make his teammates better? Explain Ginn? He revived Smith's career and Olsen is now considered a top 5 TE with Cam.

#3033820 We Are Missing Something On Defense

Posted by Car123 on 20 October 2014 - 07:03 PM

Knew our defense would be questionable after signing harper to a two year deal.

Wish we had Quentin Mikel too.

#3032754 the official "Dave Gettleman fuging sucks" thread

Posted by Car123 on 20 October 2014 - 10:18 AM

Ask anybody who plays for the Patriots.

Granted, a lot goes into a free agent's decision where to sign, but I'm pretty sure the question of "will the GM be nice to me" isn't all that high on a lot of guys' priorities.

The Patriots have won Super Bowls and we have nothing. The Patriots GM can be an ass all he wants.

#3032293 the official "Dave Gettleman fuging sucks" thread

Posted by Car123 on 20 October 2014 - 01:05 AM

Pretty clear you have no clue what a GM does :lol:

Hint: Having a GM who'll put in his own time on player evaluation is a good thing, not bad. As to his PR skills, who gives a flaming rip? He's running a team, not running for office.

Gettleman went for veteran safeties because smart players like that work pretty well behind a high pressure defensive line.

Unfortunately, thanks to Charles Johnson being hurt and Greg Hardy being where he is, we don't have that anymore.

Who would want to work for a shitty boss?
Maybe his personality deterred players from signing here.

#3030562 Bersin at PR

Posted by Car123 on 19 October 2014 - 03:55 PM

We should have re-signed Ginn.

#3027942 Official Panthers - Packers Gameday Thread

Posted by Car123 on 19 October 2014 - 12:51 PM

Some of these people I see now are never here after a win

#3026271 What's the win statistics when we were the blue uniforms?

Posted by Car123 on 18 October 2014 - 08:35 PM

werent we wearing the blue jerseys for the 08' MNF game against the Bucs?


#3025673 Ron Jaworski on Cam Newton

Posted by Car123 on 18 October 2014 - 08:47 AM

Cam has never been a run first qb. I'm tired of people thinking he was.

#3017053 "Ron Rivera and the Panthers wasted a brilliant performance by Cam" -...

Posted by Car123 on 12 October 2014 - 06:19 PM

so...did the Bengals waste Dalton's performance, who had better stats, incidentally.

Cam had better stats

#3016790 If there is one thing i can say about Cam now with no second thought..

Posted by Car123 on 12 October 2014 - 05:35 PM


#3015233 Cam Newton MVP

Posted by Car123 on 12 October 2014 - 03:39 PM

he's 25/40 and has overthrown quite a few.. I wouldn't say MVP

He's our entire offense

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