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#2964755 Hey remember that Obamacare thing?

Posted by Awesomeness! on Yesterday, 02:42 PM

Obamacare was the original Republican National healthcare plan.

#2961832 It's about to get even worse

Posted by Awesomeness! on 17 September 2014 - 08:55 PM

There won't be any NFL players left by week 6

#2958019 Statement by AP

Posted by Awesomeness! on 16 September 2014 - 01:41 PM

I'm confused. Are we talking about AP, or are we talking about corporal punishment in general?

#2957858 The Ebola Outbreak.

Posted by Awesomeness! on 16 September 2014 - 12:37 PM

What's the most effective angle of stopping this thing? Trying to prevent it from spreading into other areas of the world, or trying to save the people who are in area of the outbreak?


#2956943 Statement by AP

Posted by Awesomeness! on 16 September 2014 - 02:58 AM

re: the edgy post, i thought it was fairly clear that i don't equate approving spanking as a tacit approval of beating kids nuts with tree branches; as rodeo has brought up, national dialogue on this has somehow been annoyingly misconstrued as a spanking debate when it's not (or shouldn't be.) the tinderbox conversation is a microcosm of a larger, national whole, where people continue to argue down silly side roads because they feel their old-testament-given right to not spare the rod is being challenged.


but that's all secondary to my point, which, simply, was that "i turned out fine" arguments tend to automatically exclude any definition of "fine" which does not include the aberrant behavior being challenged. a parallel to my challenged page one post would be:


"mah daddy taught me to grow up disliking mexicans, but i turned out just fine!"


*dislikes mexicans*




in that ^ example, just like in the first one, we see that "i turned out just fine" is a claim made independently of the action that follows it, when we ought to be considering it dependent on our conclusion that the following action is actually indicative of someone not turning out fine.




Typically speaking when people say "and I turned out just feel" they mean that they wouldn't have turned out just fine had they not been spanked. No lie, the single biggest moment in my life was when I decided I was going to start coming home whenever I felt like it. One night I came home around 3 or 4 and my dad was waiting for me. We argued for about 5 seconds before he picked me up and slammed me on the floor, and told me to either leave for good or follow the rules. I guess it wasn't a "spanking", but it was physical and I'm better for it. I doubt a long drawn our talk would have worked in that case. 



I don't know what happened To AP's kid but I doubt he is a "child abuser". Did he go to far? The courts will decide but if people are using this to fuel their anti-spanking agenda they're in for a tough battle.

#2955671 Statement by AP

Posted by Awesomeness! on 15 September 2014 - 04:13 PM

What constitutes "abuse" in some communities is different from what constitutes abuse in others. Furthermore there is a need for fathers in the household, to discipline their kids. Everybody agrees on that, but when somebody actually takes that role they get labeled "child abusers". Y'all are funny.

#2955655 Statement by AP

Posted by Awesomeness! on 15 September 2014 - 04:09 PM

mah daddy whupped mah ass purple and ah turned out just fine!

*beats toddler's scrotum with tree branch*

A switch is not a tree branch. Come on man

#2953870 Superman not looking good

Posted by Awesomeness! on 14 September 2014 - 10:53 PM

The hate for the guy on this board is getting pretty absurd. He doesn't even play in our division.


The media thinks he is better than Cam (Like Luck). Plus he is a douche (like Jimmy Graham)

#2951712 Notes and Memos - Lions

Posted by Awesomeness! on 14 September 2014 - 03:11 PM

Dear Ohio


You're the best


-The Carolina's

#2946649 The Palin Family Brawl

Posted by Awesomeness! on 12 September 2014 - 09:17 PM


#2944025 Are northerners more racist than southerners?

Posted by Awesomeness! on 11 September 2014 - 04:02 PM

What is the motivation for people that live in non-black countries like Russia to dislike black people? It just seems like a waste of energy.

#2943654 Ray Rice

Posted by Awesomeness! on 11 September 2014 - 01:00 PM

I don't know. Maybe having a penis clouds my judgment on this but saying "never hit a woman" is like saying "never hit an Asian" or, "never hit a Texans fan". You shouldnt hit anybody unless you are defending yourself and that should be the end up it.

On the other hand, woman ARE abused and I feel like an asshole for having the opinion that I gave in the first paragraph and OP.

#2943632 Ray Rice

Posted by Awesomeness! on 11 September 2014 - 12:49 PM

the thing is i'm conflicted on multiple levels, mainly because i have a ton of different inputs from a ton of different worldviews and experiences dumping passionate ideas into the pot and stirring them around.

punching a woman in the face is bad and inexcusable.

on the other hand, so is a woman punching a man in the face.

should we consider both crimes equal, because human beings are human beings? or should we consider gender? or should it be size? can we really ignore the effect power imbalances have in determining how wrong it is to hit someone else in the face? what about socio-historic context, like the fact that we're talking about this in a society where male-on-female abuse has been a constant, dominant thread stitching together the fabric of the issue for as long as it's been discussed?

moreover, to what extent should the rices be left alone? what place do we leave forgiveness and repentance in this? if rice made a mistake, do we leave room for his wife to forgive him? what if he truly never does it again? do we rob her of her agency and suggest she's a witless compatriot in the construction of her own battering? if we don't, do we ignore the dynamic of battered women who invariably cling to the bringer of her beatings as a source of validation and protection? doesn't this just perpetuate the problem?

from a sociological perspective - that is, on how we should face problems of domestic abuse in broad categories - how can we take this, and the dialogue that's resulted from it, and apply it successfully to social applications? can we glean something about the nature of domestic violence and learn something from it? more concretely, can we come to a social consensus that this behavior is unequivocally wrong and make it a point of emphasis in child-rearing and the socialization of young men and women?

it's a multi-facted issue, and much like other topics in the tbox where i do not feel 100% sure of my grounding in the intricacies of all the related worldviews i tend to simply lurk and ingest the exchange (or obnoxiously pop in to point out fallacies and factual errors.) this is one of those threads.

I literally love you.

#2943286 Ray Rice

Posted by Awesomeness! on 11 September 2014 - 09:35 AM

Violence against anybody is wrong. I clearly stated Ray was in the wrong, no excuses.

#2939329 Bruce Levenson thinks southern whites are made uncomfortable by blacks

Posted by Awesomeness! on 09 September 2014 - 01:44 PM

Plus the logo was lame, and you couldn't pay me to wear a Bobcat jersey. The color scheme was awful etc etc. The "Browns" were a more marketable name.

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