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#3037045 My biggest worry about Gettleman

Posted by prowler2k8 on Today, 11:57 AM

The reality, after Fox, after Hurney..a lot of holes and a bad salary cap,situation has not helped

However, I do not see the Panthers going after and getting the best staff they could get and if the goal is to go young and grow the best teachers are needed..nor do I see coaches willing or accepting that they have to adjust to the talent on hand

And btw, the best teachers are not the ones we are comfortable with...the best teachers are the ones who challenge us to grow. Shula should have not been hired and retained for the OC position is my opinion and the fact we hired a passing coordinator to help hum should have been a huge red flag. He was hired when Rivera was expected to be a lame duck coach and no one else available and then kept supposedly for continuity for Newton...not the best decision

My concern with Gettleman is the constant use of salary cap to explain things like out of 7 o linemen only two being draft. Let that sink in a moment and tell me any other pro team in that shape on the oline...I simply cannot believe there were not serviceable vets with one to 2 years left in them to get us through rebuilding that aren't better then bell and chandler and some no names from Canada as starters

Same goes for that abysmal secondary...roman Harper ..seriously...a guy whose physical skills combined with his lack of desire to play...why him...was that really the best the panthers could do?

I don't know what to think

All pro teams go through adversity. The panthers seem more capable then others of creating and sustaining their own.

I think the reality too is that they got lucky and overachieved last year and the jig is up this year along with Gettleman gambling on the dine that isn't thanks to the stupid, of Hardy and Alexander.


100% agree with all of this. Hiring Shula for "continuity" sake was a huge mistake by Rivera and I truly believe this was the rationale for hiring Ramsdell. And the point you made about not going after the best teachers/talent and the failure to accept/adjust accordingly has been a huge problem for this organization for a long time. The Panthers have had a 'square peg, round hole' approach to things for as long as I can remember.

#2575751 Mitchell

Posted by prowler2k8 on 30 December 2013 - 02:37 PM

Mitchell, Munnerlyn and Hardy are all guys we must keep.  I think Klein could replace Blackburn, Lester could replace Mikell and Star/Short could replace Cole, but those three would leave big holes and yes, I include Munnerlyn in that.


^I agree. I think Klein could eventually be a factor at the SLB, not sure he has the speed for the WLB. For now, he's a good backup for Kuechly and possible replacement for Senn on special teams. I would like to see Cole and Mikell get 1-year deals for depth unless the staff feels Gaydosh and Lester are ready.

#2485663 Beason Stills Seems Miffed

Posted by prowler2k8 on 13 November 2013 - 02:28 PM

Each party has reasons to spin the story in their direction and we'll probably never know how things really went down... but I tend to believe Beason.

The Panthers never said he asked to be traded, they simply said he was disappointed when he was informed that Blackburn would be starting. As a beloved leader in the locker room, I'm sure the FO was concerned that his disappointment and any perceived injustice towards him could have a toxic effect on morale so they decided to shop him around and ended up basically giving him away to the Giants.

I can understand how he feels about not being given a chance to say goodbye to his teammates but I can also understand why the Panthers decided it was best to just cut the cord given the situation... there's no easy way to say goodbye under these circumstances so sometimes it's just best to not say goodbye at all.

I do think the Panthers intended to do him a solid by trading him to a fundamentally good organization with a big need at MLB in return for a huge cap penalty and very low compensation.

I'm glad Beason has found himself in a situation where he can be a major contributor AND I'm glad the Panthers organization has the guts to trade a guy like Beason away when it's time to move on. I think it's important to be loyal to players, especially guys like Beason, but there's a limit to that and Hurney often exceeded that limit (and then some).

I see this as a win-win and I really hope Beason doesn't have any hard feelings.

Very well said sir.

#2276492 Panthers to ink Quintin Mikell?

Posted by prowler2k8 on 03 July 2013 - 11:39 AM

Interesting indeed. More safety help? I'd feel a lot better if we could ink a coupe of OL  particularly at the RG/RT spots. Those are major ???s right now.

#2028351 Andy Reid and Carolina, match made in heaven?

Posted by prowler2k8 on 02 December 2012 - 09:18 PM

First the obvious reason, Andy Reid would do wonders with Cam and there is no doubt Reid deep down has a man crush on Newton. And another reason that never gets mentioned is im sure Reid would not only welcome a change of venue but also a laid back city like Charlotte might be just the break he needs. Not sure he would want another harsh enviroment like a Dallas or the Jets.

The bottom line is we need Reid and Reid needs us. Thoughts?

Absolutely not. For three (3) reasons:

First, Andy Reid looks like a man who is burned out and needs at least a year away from the game. After the tragedy he experienced with his son's death, I'm not sure it was a good idea for him to have coached this year and some time away from the sidelines and pressures of an NFL HC may do him some good e.g. Jeff Fisher.

Second, Reid is a WCO disciple and just from schematic/philosophy standpoint, that style of offense would not mesh with the current players we have on the roster. Most significantly, Cam Newtown is not a WC QB and his skillset is better suited for the Air Coryell offense we run now. To implemet this system would present an almost complete overhaul of the offense player/scheme, and would present a huge learning curve for a 2nd year QB who just now appears to be finding his groove. Reid's WCO is very pass heavy, which would mean further under utilizing the expensive stable of RBs we have.

Third, although Reid is known for successfully working with QBs (after all he was a QB coach/OC under Mike Holmgren), Reid's time in Philly has been marred by the some of the same inconsistencies, game management issues, lack of good drafting etc that we complain about with our current regime. True, he's more experience than Rivera, but that doesn't make him a better rreplacement.


#2027710 3 Stooges - Not One Has Been Fired

Posted by prowler2k8 on 02 December 2012 - 05:49 PM

Wouldn't do any good to fire anyone with only a few weeks to go in the season and especially with no GM in place. We just need to sit tight and wait for the offseason. But yeah, I'm ready for this coaching staff to be sent packing.

#1971451 PFT: "Contender" has inquired about DeAngelo Williams

Posted by prowler2k8 on 29 October 2012 - 09:26 PM

I would have to think it was either the Packers or the Broncos, as Phinisher mentioned... May be more likely that it was the Broncos considering they reportedly were bidding on him up until the last minute in FA, so they may be willing to pay him what they would've given him otherwise, plus Fox is familiar with him.

Yeah, I hate that we're even considering this, if its true. As bad as his contract is, we'd only be compounding the mistake if we let him go. The bigger mistake was re-signing Stewart after sigining Tolbert in FA, which gives us two RBs with similar skill set.

With that said, if DW is traded I certainly hope we get the best value for him and he goes to a contender.

#1949897 Panthers shuffle O-Line

Posted by prowler2k8 on 17 October 2012 - 05:45 PM

If Bell can move inside I'd be stoked, we really need to strengthen that RG spot on a permanent basis. Hangartner is best as a swingman back up.

Agree 100%. I think Bell would've been inserted @ RG if Otah hadn't been a bust. Hangartner is a good backup but he was getting abused at RG.

#1941579 JR needs to clean house ....and fast

Posted by prowler2k8 on 09 October 2012 - 06:01 PM

My beef is the team is getting worse instead of better.I was not one that expected a 10-6 season but I did expect to see a more disciplined fundamentally sound team.We had players back from injury,a decent draft,and very few injuries this year so why should we not expect better results?

Agreed and understandable. Despite this past April's draft, one of the biggest problems is we don't have the talent needed at critical spot e.g. OL/DL and DB. The injuries we had at LB forced us to go with Keuchly although we have great need at those spots.

We got to keep in mind this team is trying to build for the future and doing so means (at least for us) sacrificing short-term results. While our offense has clearly taken a step or two back, the DEF/ST seems to improving slowly but surely. We need to give the current regime more time IMO.

#1629554 Panthers hire Richard Rodgers, Asst ST coach

Posted by prowler2k8 on 25 January 2012 - 10:07 PM

except i can't figure out what in the world he brings. he has no significant or recent experience coaching special teams.

i just don't know what he brings to the table. it would be nice to know.

I think its a combination of giving a college teammate a foot-in-the door opportunity while getting some help for an area that sorely needs it. Never know what future implications this may have also. If Murphy does a poor job next year with a full complement of players (or so we hope) or leaves for greener pastures, we'll have his replacement on board. JMHO

#1235224 Osi Umenyiora wants out of New York... Filing affidavit to leave Giants withi...

Posted by prowler2k8 on 16 June 2011 - 05:26 PM

If we sign CJ we won't sign Osi. We won't devote 20 million a year to the DE spot with Hardy and Brown in the wings.

At the risk of speculating too far in advance, in the unlikely event we can't sign CJ, I would really like to see us go after Quinton Coples in next year's draft. Imagine Coples and Hardy as our starting DE's with Norwood and Brown as our backups. We would have one of the better stable of DE that would rival NO and TB. Of course, a lot of things would have to happen i.e having another losing season and getting a top 5 pick in '12, but I can dream, right?

#1227034 Jordan Gross interview

Posted by prowler2k8 on 09 June 2011 - 04:27 PM

definitely like what I'm hearing about Pilares.. if we can get our 4 youngsters to step up as solid draft picks, dangerous.

As excited as I am to hear about Cam, I'm just as excited to hear about Pilares, especially with Smith's future with the team in question. I think this guy has the potential to be a real weapon as a slot WR. I think we're going to be pleasantly suprised with Chud's offense.

#1208160 Panthers punter is not amused by jersey number talk

Posted by prowler2k8 on 20 May 2011 - 02:50 PM

Someone asked Newton if he wanted the No.2 jersey WITHOUT mentioning Clausen and he said "Yes" the media and the HUDDLE are dragging this out to a non-story, so get your fugging facts straight! Cam has not commented on this matter any further, and Baker needs stfu and stop adding more fuel to the fire for the media.

JTG, some of these "haters" are astounding. Now we're gonna hate on the guy over a jersey #? GET REAL!!! :rolleyes:

If some of these guys actually took the time to listen to Cam's interview with Frank and Moose on WFNZ a few weeks back (right after the draft), they'd know that Cam didn't DEMAND the #2. In fact, he said that he's not worried about the jersey number at all. He was asked by a reporter which jersey # he wanted, and Cam told the reporter that he'd like the #2 (which happens to be the number JC has)...big deal, eh? Cam also mentioned he's alway worn that number b/c that's how his mother refers to him (as the #2 of her three sons), but he reiterated that he didn't care about the jersey number and wasn't coming in to step on anyone's toes or demand anything. Here's the link in case anyone of you "haters" care to listen and get the facts:


Just in case that one doesn't work


And just in case you don't want to trouble yourselves, see the post just before this one ;-)

#1187889 Cam on Frank and Moose

Posted by prowler2k8 on 05 May 2011 - 02:06 PM

I know for a fact Brees is leading one for the Saint @ Tulane, and Romo is leading one for the Cowboys. Flacco is leading one for the Ravens too I saw that on ESPN. Eli Manning is leading team workouts for the Giants. And the Cardinals are holding their own workouts. Those are the only ones for a fact that I know are going on, their may be others.

There's a big difference you're forgetting: Brees, Flacco, Romo, and Mannings are under contract and starting QBs of their respective teams. Cam is a rookie and isn't currently under contract (not to mentioned not named a starter yet). As such, he may be under restrictions due to NFL labor rules from participating in such workouts. On the other hand, Clausen would be better served to organize workouts with the team if he wants to hold onto the starting job and increase his value. JMO

#1183990 Does Newton get it?

Posted by prowler2k8 on 03 May 2011 - 03:17 PM

So you think Cam understands the criticism and you think the people who actually talked to him about it are just hating and you have no bias in this whatsoever?

Is he just that bad at speaking that no one ever understands what he's trying to say?

To directly answer your question, TRD, yes I think Newton understand the criticism he's been getting. It's all he's had to hear for the last few months. It's understandable that he'd be defensive after all of the backhanded insults about his intelligence and efforts to discredit what he's accomplished. Think about it: This kid had to understand three (3) different offensive systems in as many years, and won two (2) national championships with two different programs as a starter for only one season. And yet, these so-called "experts" question his ability to grasp an NFL offense? This is not to say he won't have a big learning curve or make adjustments and to become successful in the pro-game, but what rookie doesn't?

I mentioned in another thread that it appears Newton has trouble expressing himself as eloquently as some other prospects. However, that doesn't make him unintelligent or mean he doesn't "get it". The Panthers didn't draft him for his public speaking; he was drafted b/c he's a very good QB and leader that has won at every level and has the potential to be the face of our franchise and field general we've needed for so long.

If you ask me, some of our fans seem to be the ones that don't "get it".

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