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#2889617 If Hardy's conviction isn't overturned, he might not play for awhile

Posted by Vagrant on 13 August 2014 - 10:56 PM

UGHHHHH that woman. The court system is doing a lot of work for this nonsense, and she might be screwing up my football enjoyment this season. Great. Half joking. Half.


So hey, you're a dope for saying that. Just thought I would stop in and let you know you said something really dumb. You should try not to do that in the future because then people will think you're dumb.


I say the more you can hurt a player for smacking women around, do it. Maybe, just maybe, a player will think twice about that before going all Scarface on his significant other. I don't care if it hurts Greg Hardy. Because the two words already hurt Greg Hardy in the court of public opinion and the real court of law: FOUND GUILTY


If the only way you can reach these idiots is by taking game checks and playing time then by all means use that method. This is more cowardly than using PEDs and more intolerable than recreational drugs. It should be reflected in the league's reaction.


You got any women in your life you care about? Put her into this situation hypothetically and read your own post again.

#2888489 2 4 1: J.Jones top 3 WR's in mix..Charlotte new Fm sports radio

Posted by Vagrant on 13 August 2014 - 12:23 AM

There is no way Bersin doesn't make this team. He has worked too hard and improved so much not to. Funny how underwood isn't even in the mix. lol.


He's not in the mix because fans know very little about what is actually happening and are basing their opinions on who is going to make the roster on 1 preseason game where Cam wasn't available and the yearly circle jerk that is training camp. I don't mean to minimize camp as being pointless, but it's certainly a step below performing in preseason games which is a giant step below performing in regular season games. The same people that are doubting Underwood making the team probably thought that cutting Hixon was a foregone conclusion at the start of the preseason last year. Not many teams bring in free agents and then abandon the plan after training camp. I'm not saying he's invincible, but he's one of the VERY few players at his position that has actually done anything in the NFL to this point. That's going to be a factor in his favor.


I think that Avant, Benjamin, Underwood, and Cotchery are the locks. I like what I have seen from King and if he continues to play well through the preseason he might make us keep him, but the fact that he's not an impact special teams player might hurt his chances to make our roster as an exclusive WR. He might be a player we try to stash. Pilares has something of an inside track on a position because of his history on special teams. He's not going to make this team as a WR when we have much better options. The fact that nobody is really stepping up and grabbing punt return duties for the ....third straight year is really problematic. Marvin McNutt hasn't shown incredibly well in camp and in this first game but things change fast. I don't think he's in a good position right now. Bersin is a fan favorite for being ....well let's just be safe and say because he's a local kid and JR's neighbor. I don't think he has a future on this team. It's a good preseason story but in my mind it's between Bersin, McNutt, and King as to who we keep on the roster and right now King is leading that charge. Plenty of time for things to change there but King looks pretty good regarding the players who are WR and don't return kicks and punts. Philly Brown has a shot at making this team and his competition is directly with Pilares as a special teams specialist. I don't think we're looking at him too hard at the WR position. Again though, it's going to be somewhat of a challenge to unseat Pilares because of the fact that Pilares has returned kicks at the NFL level before and Philly is going to have to beat him cleanly to make the roster ahead of him.







Pilares/Brown (Returner Slot)


If we only keep 5 at the position, it's King that probably gets cut here. Or somebody gets mysteriously injured in the last preseason game.

#2879923 Love traded to CLE for Wiggins, Bennett, Pick

Posted by Vagrant on 07 August 2014 - 10:25 AM

I like this deal for both sides. Well truthfully I hate it because it makes Cleveland stronger, but in terms of each team's individual goals it makes sense. With Love, James, and Irving you have another big three created. Love is a better post player than Bosh ever was and a better traditional PF with rebounding skills. Irving is a more traditional PG and I think with having more natural scorers on the team he's going to be able to spread the ball around more and not rely so much on his ability to create his own shots. I think, as much as Wade was better than Irving at the time LeBron signed with the Heat, this is a better trio from an on paper standpoint. Nobody having to play out of position and guys with more traditional roles. LeBron gets his first star big to play with, as Bosh is/was that hybrid kind of big that isn't exceptional under the rim and with his back to the basket like Love. That's going to be a dangerous addition in set offense. Not only will this team be able to run the break, but having the ability with two shot creators like Irving and LeBron in sets to free up Love is going to be formidable.


The haul for the Wolves is fantastic. Kevin Love wasn't going to sign there. Everybody knew that. The fact that they can get two first overall picks with tremendous upside is great. Plus the story of reuniting the Canadian prep stars is a good look for Minnesota being a state that borders Ontario and Manitoba. It's going to be interesting to see how much that impacts the Wolves presence in Canada. If anything makes it easier to lose Love from an immediate competition standpoint, it's the growth that the fanbase might have from adding the Canadian element.


Overall it's a move that makes sense for both sides. Cleveland is not going to "waste" their window of LeBron while waiting for the young kids to ripen up to be ready to compete and Minnesota gets that opportunity to have an instant rebuild. It's a pretty ideal situation for both sides. It made too much sense not to happen.

#2876800 Cam makes nice with Peter King

Posted by Vagrant on 04 August 2014 - 09:01 PM

Something like this is as close as you're going to get to "nice" from a blowhard like Peter King. You want to talk about maturity? King didn't approach Cam to hash this out like men. It went the other way around. That shows you who would have been content to let this kind of beef simmer for eternity. I'm glad we've got a QB that's a good leader and a good person willing to make his own decisions and not do what his "handlers" think is appropriate.

#2873302 Canadian Farm Beast sidelined!

Posted by Vagrant on 01 August 2014 - 04:20 PM

I heard they tried to line up Gaydosh in front of David Foucault and the drill never started because they kept apologizing for starting too soon. They just shook hands and walked away.

#2868691 Pats claim RB Tyler Gaffney off waivers

Posted by Vagrant on 29 July 2014 - 04:00 AM

Alright morons who are defending this here is the short version:


- We wasted a 6th round pick. It vanished into thin air. We have nothing at all to show for it.


- We lost a player. Regardless of potential, he was a guy we thought highly enough of to draft. No matter what happens in his career from here forward, he's an asset. If you look at this like "LOL he's just some scrub RB!!!", then you're the dumb one.


- We lost our $100,000 investment into this player as we've already paid his signing bonus. The Patriots get a free 6th round pick and $100,000 just for putting a waiver claim on a player we had ZERO incentive to waive at this point in time. We made the move far too early. This was a rookie GM mistake. And for a guy that is so highly regarded as a numbers guru it's remarkable that he made this mistake.



tl;dr for the knuckle draggers, if you like Gettleman or not this is inexcusable asset management. Go ask JR how he feels about losing $100,000 and a 6th round pick because Gettleman shuffled paperwork wrong. That's real money. That's a real draft pick.

#2863376 Kug to have back surgery Aug 8th, done for year

Posted by Vagrant on 24 July 2014 - 02:00 PM

How many of the people here writing off this young man for problems beyond his control also wrote off Thomas Davis for the same thing is my question. But no, let's not talk about how many haters THAT man had for sucking up all our precious cap space and not being on the field. Give it up, Thomas. You're done.


But seriously, best wishes to the young man. There's no indication that his injuries have come from a lack of effort. Don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. I'm sure he's more disappointed about this situation than any of us could even imagine but we've still got people here acting like he stole their lunch money.


Even if he never steps on the field, this dude was/is a Panthers player and I support him. I hope he can come back and prove some people wrong. And I hope I am still around if he turns it around and is able to get out there and be a productive player for us so the mysterious group of guys that can say "I never gave up on ya Kugzilla!" can appear from the ashes of this conversation like they have for TD.


Ya'll are some sunshine fans.

#2853342 Hardy found guilty

Posted by Vagrant on 16 July 2014 - 04:01 AM

Stop. Defending. Hardy. Because. He's. A. Panther.


Bottom line. There was enough evidence to convince the court and that's enough for me. This was no witch hunt. The man has the best lawyers money can buy and he still got popped. Accept that your favorite football player might not be such a good dude. He messed up and he'll pay the consequences. This doesn't mean you can't cheer for him on Sunday, but don't talk about somebody's character because they make different choices than you do. You can do all the coke you want but that doesn't mean somebody has a right to tell you they're going to kill you and rough you up. A lot of bad decisions made in this case and Hardy made his share. Rack it up.

#2843564 Hayward agrees to sign

Posted by Vagrant on 09 July 2014 - 02:26 AM

Yet you don't think paying Hayward $63M is overrating him? Interesting.

Max deal = superstar. Hayward is no superstar.

"Of course" Hayward deserves as much as he can get, right? Anyone here who was freaking out last season over Jefferson's $13.5M per that isn't upset over Hayward's number is a hypocrite, or worse.


You're wrong on a few topics here. People hear the term "max deal" and lose their minds. If we had signed him for $14.8 million then a lot of people would have been like well that's probably close to market value because the Jazz wanted to give him $12 and he didn't take it. The fact that it's a bit more than that at $15.8 million makes people lose it. Not all free agency periods are the same. Sometimes players run into situations where it's good that they came into free agency when they did and sometimes players run into bad situations and get less. Jefferson ran into a bad situation last offseason and still pulled out a pretty good deal for himself here. In this situation, Hayward holds all the cards. Probably the best free agent available that isn't in the Big 3 and he's getting paid like it. It was a good move by his agent to get him on the market. Bottom line.


Secondly, I was mad at the Jefferson deal when I first saw it because it represented the end of our rebuild and I think we ended our rebuild before we started it. We needed a high pick in this last draft and we didn't get high enough. But now that the past is the past and the Hornets are trying to build a team for the right now, we need to start spending some cash to make that happen. That's why I think this move was the right move. It would have been the same way had we done the two moves in reverse. If we signed Hayward to $13.5 last season I would have said that was stupid, but not today. We're trying to compete in a weak conference and with all the things up in the air right now it's a good time to scoop up the best of the second tier talent.


You have to pay to play in this league and even though Hayward might not look like a max player on paper, in this free agent period he's a max player because the options are limited and the money is there for a lot of teams to spend. It's either make competitive offers or do nothing at this point. I prefer we sign guys that can help this team even if it takes a few extra million a year. This is a critical point for this franchise. This upcoming season could make or break Charlotte's legitimacy as a market if we can't get people excited about this team. The time is now. We can't take a back seat and hope next year the free agent crop is better because there's no guarantees that's going to be the case.

#2843526 Hayward agrees to sign

Posted by Vagrant on 09 July 2014 - 01:08 AM

Who are we missing out on??


Exactly. Folks acting like there are just tons of guys out there waiting to be scooped up by the Charlotte Hornets. Even if Hayward just used us to pick up a max contract for the Jazz, this was the right move. If he's not a realistic target, get him off the board so we can move on. Nobody major is going to sign away until the big three decide what they're going to do. There's too much money out there right now and too few teams spending until they know what those guys are doing. We never had any false hopes of those cats coming here. We're attacking the next tier of guys.

#2832707 No.9 Pick : Noah Vonleh

Posted by Vagrant on 26 June 2014 - 10:04 PM

Vonleh probably spells the end for bismack . Zeller can play both the 4/5 & I think they resign mcroberts as long as the price is not to steep


It would be silly for them to part with Bismack after him playing the best ball of his career last year in spot duty at only 21 years old to this day. He shot 61% from the field in those limited minutes. Probably the best interior defender we've got. If Tyson Chandler's career has taught us anything, it's that if you can defend and rebound in this league you can play in this league.

#2826783 Michael Vick on running quarterbacks: I started it all

Posted by Vagrant on 21 June 2014 - 09:07 PM

Only fans of his generation who aren't educated about the history of the league would think he has a point. What Randall Cunningham was doing even in my generation was just as unfathomable and HE wasn't even the first to utilize that style. I'm sure every generation had a player like Vick in terms of being mostly athleticism and improvisation.



#2790086 List of Greg Hardy's Guns

Posted by Vagrant on 16 May 2014 - 03:01 PM



Just remember that living in a constant state of paranoia that you're going to be victimized is being just as much of a victim as anyone unarmed. You can only shoot one at the time. There's no valid reason to require this kind of firepower at your disposal. If you want a hobby, collect stamps.

#2786876 Recapping What We Know After Greg Hardy’s First Court Appearance (BBR)

Posted by Vagrant on 14 May 2014 - 03:33 PM

Save your bullshat theories about why this woman would have "harmed herself" in order to get back at Hardy. Save your admonishments of Hardy, unless you are just disappointed in general that the situation could have escalated to this by his association. We know nothing of what actually happened in that apartment and it may stay that way forever. But what we DO know is that the officer saw fit to arrest Greg Hardy and charge him with multiple crimes. Respect the victim by not making dumb allegations about her "motives". Respect Greg by not jumping to conclusions about what happened when you weren't even there. Let the courts, who have the best and most up to date information of anyone, decide this before you convict or pardon him in the court of public opinion.


I get it, you guys want to protect Hardy because he's a Panther and his girlfriend isn't. But that's not a responsible way to view this issue. A lot of you just have a lot of pent up hate for women that I will never understand and for that I feel bad for you. Really do. You must have had some really terrible experiences to think that all women are predators waiting for you to blow your top so she can collect on you. Real talk.


Settle yourselves and wait for details like any rational human being.

#2718586 Charles Godfrey may move to nickel back

Posted by Vagrant on 27 March 2014 - 03:48 PM

Never made it as a deep man,

Couldn't cut it as a corner cheating,

Tired of paying for a broke man,

I'm sick of coverage blown achilles healing...

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