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And I don't think she needs a life vest. She'll probably float just fine without one.
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Posted by Fan01 on 02 April 2014 - 03:34 PM
Is what you do even legal?
And I don't think she needs a life vest. She'll probably float just fine without one.
Posted by Fan01 on 20 March 2014 - 08:53 PM
Not exactly sure what we are doing with all the minor workouts.
We seem to be working out a lot of 4th, 5th, and 6th wide receivers but with McNutt and King on the roster do you really need to be working out players like Jean and Cone? I'll give Underwood a break because he could possibly be a solid four.
Gettlemen has told us. He says we constantly have to churn the bottom of your roster. That's how you find guys than can contribute even if it's in small ways. Better practice players, better character guys, etc. The smallest things can make a difference in the NFL where games are won and lost by the smallest of things.
Posted by Fan01 on 20 March 2014 - 02:29 PM
From what I can find (and forgive me I didn't read through the whole thread) Jackson has a salery of 10 million next year. After that nothing is guarenteed. So, we get him for a 4th round pick. Then redo his contract converting that money to a signing bonus. We could pay him the minimum next year if we wanted, you just have to push and balance all that crap out over the life of the contract.
He is in his prime and would pretty much solve our WR problem. We'd be a LT and a new WR away from from filling all of our biggest holes. The more I thank about it the more I like it.
Also, this is the perfect time. Everyone else has spent most of their big money in FA already and don't need a #1 receiver.
Posted by Fan01 on 20 March 2014 - 01:57 PM
Well, I tried. Let's go ahead and steer this thread into the nearest ditch.
Posted by Fan01 on 20 March 2014 - 01:55 PM
Come on. This thread is all about love for Steve Smith. We all know he's not perfect but this thread is all about the enjoyment he has brought us as fans for 13 years. Let's not derail this thread so fast.
Posted by Fan01 on 20 March 2014 - 01:47 PM
Thank you Steve for all the great moments in Carolina.
The above link is a song a local radio station put Steve Smith Clips into. Try not to cry.
Feel free to add your favorite Smitty videos, quotes, pics, and stories.
"If you see this face, that means I just scored." - Steve Smith
Posted by Fan01 on 20 March 2014 - 09:29 AM
Smitty still a class act. Love how that kid lit up when he saw Smith.
Posted by Fan01 on 18 March 2014 - 03:16 PM
I am not saying the above link is what Cam is having done but based on the report that it's to "tighten up ligaments" and the 4 month recovery window this would make sense. Basically he sprained the ankle a few times or for some other reason his ligaments in his ankle have stretched out and when they healed didn't heal back tight. So, the patient feels like his ankle isn't stable which in fact it isn't and would be more prone to roll and injury further.
1) The preferred is an anatomic reconstruction, in which the stretched or torn ligaments is repaired and allowed to heal in a shorten position. This reconstruction can be accomplished by using the patient’s own tissue, also known as a Broström procedure, or utilize a cadaver tendon, also called an allograft, if the patient’s own tissue is too stretched out or different. For added stability and to help prevent re-injury, the surgeon may also tighten the retinaculum, a band of fibrous tissue that helps hold the ankle in proper alignment.
Make of it what you will. Just a part of being a professional NFL players.
Most of the time with any injury surgery should be a last resort. The best case is the body healing itself. That is probably the case with Cam. It's something that could have healed on it's own but didn't so while there is still time go ahead and do the surgery.
Posted by Fan01 on 16 March 2014 - 03:15 PM
Yes, it's true. Gettlemen doesn't really have a master plan. There is no secret trick that we are not seeing. That's a really good thing because in the NFL there are too many variables that a team can't control to make any sort of master plan. It would be like trying to plan a perfect NCAA bracket. It's just not going to happen.
There is a philosophy and that's as close as you'll get to a master plan. Gettlemen's philosophy is to field the best possible team he can this year while cleaning up the cap mess. With every free agent that we didn't sign it's because their projected production outweighed what we had or wanted to spend. FA's really care 99% about the money with few exceptions.
FA is a lot like the NFL draft. You don't get caught up with one player. You take the best player available. We'll have a wish list of FA and Gettlemen has ranked them and put a dollar value on them. When that dollar value gets to high you compare overpaying that player with paying another position less by taking a player further down you list of player.
I guarantee you that if you look at that list you'll start to see FA Gettlemen has rated high still on the "board" so to speak. For example, we might have had Roman Harper the #3 SS on our list. Let's say the all the top 10 get picked up except for Harper. So, #3 and #11 are available. Now, we can get #3 for a much more reasonable price than if we'd signed him the first day.
This is just an example of how this works. There are all kinds of variables changing all the time in the "plan". You have to roll with them and have about 10 backup plans for ever every situation. Some you'll hit on and get a great player. Others you'll lose out on like LT Colllins but you stick to your philosophy because there are always other options. Sometimes it's a lesser player, sometimes it's having to scheme to minimize that shortcomings that are going to be there by not getting a certain level of player.
Last year we ended up around plan 46 with our guards. We ended up starting a young player converted from DT to guard. Yes, we probably did a lot of things to help him out and that's OK. We still won. 12-4. Yes, we had a great defense but we still had to score some points.
When all is said and done we won't have gotten the top players on our list but we will have gotten the best players available for the right price. And if you want to keep Cam and build a team that can compete for the Superbowl every year this is what we've got to do right now.
That's the "plan".
Posted by Fan01 on 15 March 2014 - 06:06 PM
It really is all about winning now. Welcome to how a team is ran when you use your brain to make decisions instead of knee jerk reaction and heartfelt sentiments.
What was Mikell? I big hitter in the box safety who wasn't that great in coverage. Guess what Roman Harper is. An older 2 time probowl version with more experience. He's a big hitter who's not great in coverage. That seems to be what we want Safeties in our defense to do.
Average safety in the NFL makes about 3.5 million so we got him cheap because of his age and Gettlement knows how to find equal production for less money. He'll be just as good in our defense.
Very good signing. You may hate the guy because he was a Saint but he'll help us win games.
Posted by Fan01 on 14 March 2014 - 07:06 PM
There are still plenty of good fish in the sea. I'm not jumping off the bridge until I actually see what we end up with. So far, Gettlemen has proven he has a great eye for talent and finding diamonds in the rough.
Everyone is reacting off of a lout of assumptions.
That Nicks is still the player he once was. (If Gettlemen didn't give him 3.5 that's a huge red flag.)
That there's nobody very good left to pickup.
That none of the players we have now have a chance to be any good.
That Gettlemen doesn't know what he's doing.
That letting Steve Smith go was a mistake.
No one knows if any of those things are true or not. I'm going to wait to freak out until there is actually something to freak out over.
I still think that the only former player from last year we can't replace with someone who will give us similar or better production is Jordan Gross.
Posted by Fan01 on 13 March 2014 - 10:53 PM
Finally, some rationale.
See how much a thread blows up with rationale logic and coherent thoughts. DOA.
Might as well keep yelling Fire in the theater.
Posted by Fan01 on 13 March 2014 - 07:46 PM
Look at last years production of the guys we lost and ask if it's possible to replace that production. Forget names.
Jordan Gross - Nope. Even at his age he would have been the most talented LT out there. That one really hurts and it's probably going to hurt for a while. Get used to seeing the TE over there helping whomever we end up with.
Best guys left - Donald Penn, Micheal Oher, really, there's not much quality starters left out there.
Captain - Yes. There are plenty of corners out there that would be good enough especially with our front 7.
Best guys left - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Champ Bailey, Charles Tillman, Drayton Florence
Steve Smith - Yes. Hakeem Nicks is the only guy that has potential #1 receiver ability but there are numerous guys who can give us better production than Smith did.
Best guys left - Hakeem Nicks, Jullian Edelman, James Jones, Sidney Rice
Brandon LaFell & Ted Ginn Jr. - It won't take a lot to replace their production.
Best guys left - Kenny Britt, Miles Austin, Jerricho Cotchery, resign LaFell
Mike Mitchell - Yes, we all wanted him to stay but no way were we going to pay him 5 million a year when your average safety makes around 3.
Best guys left - Major Wright, Thomas Decoud, Nate Allen, (there are a ton of average safeties or ones like Mitchell who are young and might just need a fresh start with the best front 7 in the NFL to rehab their image.
Luckily for us this draft is very deep at tackle and WR. If we can get Wharton to play LT next year or at least find a stop gap 1-year player that's not a turn style we'll be OK on the O-line. I wouldn't be shocked to see a Rookie starting at one of the Tackle spots.
Our defense will be just as good as last year if not better and honestly our O-line and WR's where at the bottom of the NFL anyway so it'll be about the same. Just like the last few years, we'll go as far as Cam takes us. Between this years draft and next years draft along with FA by next year our WR and O-line situation will be a strength.
And the year after that most of the bad contracts will be off the books. I know no one wants to hear a rebuilding story and we're not rebuilding as much as we're putting the pieces slowly, carefully and surly around Cam. Our defense will carry us the next 2 season and continually get better. We are good enough as a whole team to make runs those two years as we get even better. By the 2016 season we'll have one of the most elite teams in the NFL built for the long haul. Cam and Luke will be in their prime along with our DT and the Kracken. By then we'll have all the hog mollies we need and a WR corps as good as an team in the league. And our salary cap will be stable.
Sit back, stay calm and enjoy the ride. There will be bumps but the Carolina Panthers with an elite defense and Cam Newton are setting up to be on top of the NFL for the next 10-12 years.
Posted by Fan01 on 13 March 2014 - 10:01 AM
The Panthers and Gettlemen has said very little. Dave made the comment about Steve being evaluated and that's it. Everything else as been "inside sources".
Posted by Fan01 on 10 March 2014 - 06:37 PM
Great players almost never ever ride off into the sunset. They used to being great and hang on too long (although I don't think this is the case with Smith) I don't think anyone can argue his present play on the field is worth the money we're paying him. The thing I love about Gettlemen is he knows what a player is worth and he's not emotional when it comes to business decisions.
I loved Smith as a player and enjoyed watching him grow as a player and as a man. He's come a long way. He's given the city of Charlotte and the Panthers a great deal but don't mitigate what the Panthers have done for him. They overlooked numerous incidents and paid him a lot of money over the years. They've treated him fairly and I don't think they've done anything really that bad in how they handled the situation. Could they have taken him behind closed doors and said he may be cut. Sure. But in the grand scheme of things both sides have benefited greatly over the years. And Smith will still retire a Panther whenever that time comes.