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In Topic: 6 years, $150,250,000, $54,000,000 guaranteed, Projected contract f...

Today, 12:18 AM

Wilson and Ben are champions while also playing at a high level (top 10 QB ratings). They get clearly placed above Cam.

Ryan has had success in the playoffs while at times playing ELITE passing wise while also being ahead of Cam in the rankings year in year out. Thus he clearly gets placed ahead of Cam.

Championships and playoff success are team numbers. Very rarely does it say anything about the QB, it always tells you about the team though.

Case in point

1st example, take Jones away from Ryan and he looks like a slightly above average QB. Which is what he is. he's not elite, but he's always had elite targets to through the ball too. Watch a Falcons game and see how wide open Jones gets. Playoff success???? 1-4 in the playoffs with 9 TD's and 7 int plus 2 fumbles. Hmmmmm..... I don't see no success here.

2nd example, Big Ben missed 4 games in 2005, didn't pass for more then 2500 yards, and had one of his worst seasons in 2008. Both championship seasons and neither was because of Ben.
Also has a QB rating of 82 this season,which is not top ten. 2 Super Bowl wins, QB rating of 22 in one and 93 in the other, 3 TD's and 5 int in the three he's been in. Thrown an int in all three games. Big time, big game player here... Cost his team one and nearly cost his team another, great defense though.

3rd example, Wilson..... Lol at Wilson being ahead of Cam. Wilson has the better team, OL, Rb, special teams and defense. QBR slightly above average and teams have to contend with Lynch. 11 fumbles and 19 int and 73 sacks on around 900 drop backs. Another 4 fumbles on 200 rushes. Barely over 3000 yards both seasons......yeah that's a top ten QB. Will say this though, he played well in the Super Bowl and could become an Elite QB.

In Topic: 6 years, $150,250,000, $54,000,000 guaranteed, Projected contract f...

Yesterday, 11:29 PM

Big Ben
Cutler/Stafford/Dalton can make an argument for all those being around Cam's level if not better.

Disagree with Ryan, Romo, Big Ben, Wilson, Stafford and Cutler. Arguing Dalton is laughable and where is Luck???

Rodgers, Bree's, Manning, Brady are clearly the top 4 QB's in the NFL. Little murkier after that.

Also, it's amazing what Mike McCoy has done with San Diego.

In Topic: 6 years, $150,250,000, $54,000,000 guaranteed, Projected contract f...

Yesterday, 11:23 PM

stats are nice but at the end of the day this league like many is about wins and championships.

hopefully in 10 years we will not be sitting up here amazed at all the individual records Cam broke but with no hardware to show for it.

Wins and championships is on the whole team, players get paid for stats and such. Yes, Qb's get Blamed or praised for wins and post season success, but you have to have a complete team to win and go far in the postseason.

In Topic: 6 years, $150,250,000, $54,000,000 guaranteed, Projected contract f...

Yesterday, 11:18 PM

It's already a done deal that it will be the biggest contract the Panthers have ever given out. Only question is if it will be the biggest contract in NFL history.

Yes it will be, by far the largest nfl contract.

Cam's stats through three seasons are ridiculous. 2nd in total yards, 2nd in total touchdowns, first in rushing, first in rushing td's.

In Topic: Hardy on Exempt List

17 September 2014 - 02:42 PM

Damn. If that holds water, he is as good as gone.

I don't think there's a chance he survives this, he's gone after the season is over if not before that.

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