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EightyNine

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In Topic: How much trust do you have in Gettleman/Rivera in Offensive Tackle evaluation?

02 March 2015 - 12:37 PM

Continuity definitely was a factor, but the other huge factor was simply that better players were plugged in who could actually do their jobs somewhat adequately so other guys on the OL didn't have to pick up the slack. Bell and Chandler were awful, it's that simple.

 

I don't know how you equate sitting a clearly poorly performing player as "making changes just for the sake of making changes". With that mindset Byron Bell would still be here, and Deangelo Williams would still be here starting over Jonathan Stewart.

Because the backup could be worse than the poorly performing player.  So there might be no good reason to make that change.

 

I can totally agree with you about the Stewart/Deangelo decision.  But as for the other positions, we didnt have anyone on the roster at the time that clearly deserved to be a starter.  That is not blind loyalty.


In Topic: How much trust do you have in Gettleman/Rivera in Offensive Tackle evaluation?

02 March 2015 - 12:22 PM

I think you might be getting hung up on a trivial point here.

 

Ultimately this team will only go as far as our QB can take us, and for him to do that we have to protect him. That means that if guys on our OL aren't cutting it, they can't stick around. We need maulers, clearly underperforming "nice guys" won't bring us a Lombardi.

 

Of course this also obviously expands beyond the OL.

 

Rivera has a few faults, and being overly loyal to certain players is one of them. Hopefully he's learning.

I don't think it's a trivial point at all.

 

I dont really think its smart to make a change just for the sake of making changes.  There needs to be some kind of reason and belief that the change is gonna make things better.  All those weeks we spent shuffling the line made it worse, and the more continuity we had, the better we were.


In Topic: How much trust do you have in Gettleman/Rivera in Offensive Tackle evaluation?

02 March 2015 - 10:26 AM

Even if you are willing to give him a pass on Byron Bell, you cannot deny Sione Fua. He even tried putting Fua on the OL.

 

I'm not trying to bash Rivera. I'm simply pointing out something that we could all see.

 

Who was Fua's backup at the time?


In Topic: How much trust do you have in Gettleman/Rivera in Offensive Tackle evaluation?

02 March 2015 - 10:09 AM

At this point, Gettleman has earned trust in his evaluation.

 

Bell stuck around too long though, at the expense of our franchise QB, and both are responsible. We cannot put ourselves through that again. I'm more concerned with Rivera, not as much his evaluation, but his at times blind loyalty to awful players (Fua, Bell).

 

Rivera can only work with what he's got.  

 

Maybe it wasn't blind loyalty that made him start those players.. Maybe their was just no one else on the roster that made a strong case that they should be the starter instead.  What seems more likely? That Rivera was blindly loyal to Byron Bell or that he just preferred him over Foucault?

 

I'm just trying to be objective.


In Topic: How much trust do you have in Gettleman/Rivera in Offensive Tackle evaluation?

02 March 2015 - 09:24 AM

Matsko can't be left out of this discussion. with the junk he's had to work with, I'd say he can put together a solid unit. maybe his input should be considered more heavily

 

How do you know how much Matsko's input was taken into consideration?

 

For all we know, Matsko was constantly in Rivera's ear telling him how great he thought Nate Chandler and Byron Bell would be.

 

Rivera is not picking the starting lineup by himself.  They have tons of meetings and evaluations where they collectively discuss the development and performance of each player.