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#3139074 Huddle question: Do they pay Cam next year?

Posted by Matthias on 16 December 2014 - 11:31 AM

You had me until "and he will be better than Brady and Manning".


Cam is not and never will be in the same league as Brady and Manning (and that is OK)....we are talking about two of the best to EVER play the game and have done it for years.  Cam has NOT shown that he may be the best to ever play the game.


Neither has Andrew Luck, but that doesn't stop people from comparing Luck to the greats.  I think it says something to see yourself at that level.  I'm not going to compare Newton to Dalton, I want more than what Dalton brings to the table heehee.  I want Newton to be one of the greats if not more.

#3139043 Huddle question: Do they pay Cam next year?

Posted by Matthias on 16 December 2014 - 11:09 AM

I like what I saw in that Saints game, and I'm not talking about his play in that game.  He took over and directed the offense.  I want the Panthers to give him that leeway all the time, and he will be better than Brady and Manning.  They should definitely lock him up this offseason in that light.

#3137541 Alexander is reinsated!

Posted by Matthias on 15 December 2014 - 03:27 PM

Interesting question.  If Hardy has his trail in January and the Panthers make it to the superbowl, over or under 50% he plays? 

#3135596 If the Panthers make the Playoffs...

Posted by Matthias on 14 December 2014 - 05:02 PM

We will be the most hated team in the NFL.  Having the chance to ruin everyone's preseason predictions for superbowl contenders.  Many have said Green Bay and Seattle are the favorites, and plenty are riding those bandwagons.  I would like nothing more than to beat those teams, and ruin many superbowl parties.  How do yall feel about taking on that role?

#3130487 All these threads (and national dialogue) about race are fundamentally misgui...

Posted by Matthias on 11 December 2014 - 07:21 PM

Of course with this thread, the only thing I see is it shows a racial bias or prejudice.  In the words of Chris Rock, things are getting better in terms of white people changing their minds over the decades.  Though all of our minds are changing as well on many different issues.  If black people want to change people's minds, they need to start some businesses and come up with global changing ideas. 

#3130474 All these threads (and national dialogue) about race are fundamentally misgui...

Posted by Matthias on 11 December 2014 - 07:05 PM

Heehee, I'm sure no black person will be leaving for Ghana any time soon.  Yet it's true that black people have all they need to fix the race related problems in this country in terms of the white/black divide.  Black people have a spending power of 1-2 trillion dollars a year.  That is way more than enough money to get stuff done in poor black areas.  That's more than enough money to turn the black community in Detroit into the next Silicon Valley.  Imagine that!  If that could be accomplished, people of all races will want to move and integrate there.  Race problems solved.

#3123454 Just a reminder.

Posted by Matthias on 07 December 2014 - 05:35 PM

It also took a D-Will injury for them to start Stew.

#3123326 Wow when Cam has time....

Posted by Matthias on 07 December 2014 - 05:08 PM

You would have pie if you would have stopped right there


Signal calling and directing the offense is something he needs to perfect if he wants Peyton money in his next contract.  At least that is how I feel.  I don't want good games every now and again, I want consistent 12 game winning seasons and superbowls.  In order to get to that step, he needs to take over everything.

#3120853 College football prospects for today.

Posted by Matthias on 07 December 2014 - 09:05 AM

I'm not surprised by Peat staying another year.  The guys that generally go to schools like Stanford or so on, usually go there for educational purposes first.  Plus Peat comes from a good (money wise) family.  Money is not something that will entice him to enter the league early.  Other guys who don't come from well off families, you expect them to enter the draft early if their stock is high enough.

#3120253 Marcus Mariota versus Andrew Luck

Posted by Matthias on 06 December 2014 - 10:39 AM

Mariota looks like a raw prospect.  I was hoping to see if he showed any signal caller characteristics in last night's game, and I'm not sure I seen that.  I think he's a little more polished than Cam as a passer coming out, but he still has a big learning curve in the NFL.

#3120170 What percentage is it Cam's Fault?

Posted by Matthias on 06 December 2014 - 07:16 AM

100% coaches and front office as to why we stink up the joint.  Though I'm not impressed with Cam's development.  He still hasn't come into his own in terms of directing the offense nor having good pocket presence.  He still does that 360 in the pocket once he feels pressure.  I know the O-line has been horrid, but that 360 helps zero.  It caused major sacks and fumbles this year. (Go look at that fumble against the Saints)

#3117452 Al Wallace said Cam Newton will never be a franchise qb

Posted by Matthias on 03 December 2014 - 07:17 PM


Manning and Brady would probably be injured and out for the season by now. They can't take the hits that Cam has to take week after week due to this pathetic O line.


This is assuming Brady/Manning would take the same amount of hits that Newton is taking.  There is a major difference in playing style between them.  A lot of sacks taken by Cam came on plays where the defense was blitzing, and the receivers were going 40 yards down the field.  Brady and Manning would direct the offense, and call for shorter routes/draw plays/etc.  Cam doesn't direct the offense like that, he mostly only go with the play that's called on the sidelines.


Surely you can't be serious?! Any other QB might be dead already playing on this team or woulda tried to kill one of his teammates by now.

Our best 2 WRs are ROOKIES, one's undrafted and the other is as raw as Cam was. People predicted this team to be bad this year for obvious reasons, none of them were bc of our quarterback.


Didn't Brady take 2 rookies in Aaron Dobson and Josh Boyce all the way to the AFC championship game last year?  This is what Brady can do, coach his guys up.


With the punishment they would take and no running game to depend on they would be crushed without Cam's size..


The only time Brady had a run game was when Corey Dillon came to the Patriots back in 2004-2005.  Peyton haven't had a run game since Joseph Addai's decent years.  Of course again, these guys are signal callers.  Cam takes his beating because he doesn't check out of plays.  You really think Shula would only let Brady and Manning check out of 30% of the plays called?  Newton is hand cuffed, and it's his fault because he's not a signal caller.  Luck wouldn't allow that to happen to him.


In any case, Cam needs good talent around him before you get your money's worth.  There won't be any money if we give him a record breaking contract.

#3116687 Al Wallace said Cam Newton will never be a franchise qb

Posted by Matthias on 03 December 2014 - 09:02 AM


I've never viewed Cam as a general. Doesn't come across that way. Not in his nature I suppose. I'd rather him be himself TBH. There are 50+ grown men on the team. Individually they should all be able to perform their jobs effectively without someone slapping them. Just my opinion


Of course he doesn't have to knock heads, just talk to his teammates about what is going on, on the field.  Be a signal caller.  If you can't do that, you are not worth the market setting contract.  I'll give him a Alex Smith type of deal.  Alex Smith made it all the way to the NFC championship game with good talent and a good HC when he was with the 49ers.  With the Chiefs, he made the playoffs with an accomplished HC in Andy Reid.  So guys like that need talent around them to do something.  Guys like Brady and Manning can win 11 or more games with every team in this league, including ours because they talk to the guys they are playing with.  Coach them up.  Just look at what Lafell is doing in NE, becoming the number one receiver for Brady.  Eric Decker had good seasons with Manning, and even though Demairyus Thomas is a good receiver, he's an all-star with Manning.


Again not knocking Cam, but if Brady or Manning were here on this very team, KB would be having an even better season than what he's having right now.  Of course experience for Brady and Manning would factor into it, but mostly because these guys are signal callers.  Can Cam turn into that at some point in his career?  I doubt he will as a Panther.  When it comes to the team's performance, Cam only looks at what he's doing.  He goes to the sideline after every drive and talks with his QB coach, and then goes back out there on the field.  Then when we are getting blown out, we usually see him on the sideline with a blank expression across his face.  The camera has yet to show a shot of him talking to his teammates trying to figure stuff out.  Of course if it did, I don't remember.  Yet with guys like Luck/Brady/Brees/Rodgers/Big Ben/etc., there are plenty of camera shots with them coaching their guys up or talking to their guys.  We hear soundbites from them if their mic'ed up.  Those are guys who deserve the big contract because they don't need as much around them to get the job done.


None of these guys ever played with sub par coaching or talent so until that happens your argument is based on myths and opinion not facts..


So you're saying if Tom Brady or Manning was our QB besides Cam, we would still only have 3 wins this year?

#3115539 Al Wallace said Cam Newton will never be a franchise qb

Posted by Matthias on 02 December 2014 - 01:05 PM

And again I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea about what I'm saying concerning Cam.  He is a franchise guy with extra talent.  Yet he will need more around him, namely coaching, that guys like Brees/Manning/Brady/Rodgers/Luck don't need.  You can't spend all your money on a guy that needs a lot around him, because you will not have money to get him the help he needs.  Take a look at what makes guys like Manning great.....





I'm not saying you need to yell at guys, but signal callers talk to their guys.  They direct the offense.  Andrew Luck does this without yelling at guys, and we even hear him talk to defensive guys for smacking him upside his head for crying out loud.  When's the last time we seen Cam talking to his offensive guys on the sideline after a three and out?  The most Cam ever does with his guys is joke around with them.  Never do I see him directing guys about what's going on with the field of play.  Unless we get Harbaugh, there isn't a coach out there that will do this for Cam.

#3115412 Al Wallace said Cam Newton will never be a franchise qb

Posted by Matthias on 02 December 2014 - 12:20 PM

Charlie Weiss failed as a HC not at OC so you would be wrong calling him a sub par OC like Shula is..


And Again none of your so called Play callers have had to succeed in the situation that Cam is in now... Not one of them..


You're making a opinion based on nothing..


Before Tom Brady nor after Tom Brady, it doesn't look like the guy had any success.  Weiss sucks, or else he would be an OC somewhere right now.  With that said, the point is if you put Brady, Brees, Manning, Rodgers, on this very team right now, we would be better for the simple fact of these guys being signal callers.  These guys wouldn't have as many sacks, because they would be calling for shorter routes at the receiver position.  They would change the play based on what they are seeing at the line.  They may check to run plays etc.  If someone messed up, they would be talking to that guy and seeing what is up.  Cam doesn't do these things.  He goes and talk with his coach after every drive.  That is it, from what we can tell.  I don't see him talking to Benji about certain plays, nor any of the other receivers.  I don't see him talking to the offensive linemen, and we really need someone to light into Bell.

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