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teeray

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#3255842 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on Yesterday, 08:20 PM

The main debate seems to be some arguing whether he was technically disciplined and some are talking about whether he was actually disciplined.

Technically the NFL will say that he has not been disciplined yet. And judging from the court ruling that is the case. Jeremy, Scot and others were right about that aspect.

I contend that he was actually punished.. Other's might see it otherwise, but we are arguing semantics.

This ruling (if it is upheld on appeal) is good Hardy because it means Hardy won't likely be suspended for more than two games.

If Hardy gets suspended for two games and he appeals it, he would lose. If he gets suspended for more than two there are now two precedents that would likely get it overturned.


#3255678 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on Yesterday, 05:59 PM

Don't know. Don't really care that much. I emotionally moved on from Hardy long ago


So have a lot of us. What does emotional detachment have to do with anything


#3255676 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on Yesterday, 05:58 PM

Carolina was punished in 2014. Hardy not much.

Also Hardy and his agent elected to go on the list. Bc they wanted the unpaid season of vacation....


How much off his next contract do you think Hardy lost? Is loss of future earnings not punishment?


#3255672 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on Yesterday, 05:56 PM

I don't know if he is innocent or guilty....wasn't there.

I know he was found guilty. He appealed. Then he paid her off and never had a round 2.

I wouldn't put my hard on money on claiming he was moistly likely innocent. NC quirky law has nothing to do with how I would view wager on someone in a given scenario

Why do you think he paid her off? Because the DA said it while hedging?


#3255637 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on Yesterday, 05:22 PM

What if you are on the exempt list and u have performance escalators in your contract? That would be punishment wouldn't it?

This whole commissioner's exempt status is a cluster


#3255627 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on Yesterday, 05:14 PM

didn't read the whole thread and i'm not likely to, but hardy wasn't exactly disciplined. he was basically given a $13mil paid vacation with no responsibilities.


How the hell is that being disciplined?

What if you put in the context of future earnings? He has likely lost millions of dollar's from his next contract. For a crime he may have not even committed.

Is that not punishment?


#3255268 Judge overturns Peterson suspension

Posted by teeray on Yesterday, 12:48 PM

Why do you think 2 at worst?

Because when the Hardy stuff happened general suspension for domestic issue was 2 games.

They retroactively created this commissioners exempt list policy, then minimum 6 game suspension.

Both Ray Rice case and this case will say you can't make new rules after the fact and try to enforce them

That is why I say worst would likely be 2 games.


#3255257 Judge overturns Peterson suspension

Posted by teeray on Yesterday, 12:34 PM

NFLPA is 2 for 2 on these appeals to courts with the new policies. I am interested to read the ruling, but it is becoming clear you can't make up a rule and then retroactively apply it to someone.

Means Hardy likely at worst would be looking at 2 game suspension.

Another big question will be whether judge had an opinion on commissioners exempt list being disciplinary in nature


#3255253 Judge overturns Peterson suspension

Posted by teeray on Yesterday, 12:30 PM

What do you people do for a living that you can respond so fast to these happening??????


Snow day bruh


#3255246 Judge overturns Peterson suspension

Posted by teeray on Yesterday, 12:28 PM

Devil is in the details, but this could have ramifications for Greg Hardy, especially the issues of punishment under new policies enacted after the incident occured and if commissioners exempt list considered a pre-discipline discipline


@AdamSchefter: Judge Doty has overturned Adrian Peterson decision and Peterson now will be reinstated, per source.


#3254446 FCC's "Net Neutrality" introduced to highly regulate the internet

Posted by teeray on 25 February 2015 - 06:06 PM

This is a bad bill


#3254445 Cardinals Release Ted Ginn

Posted by teeray on 25 February 2015 - 06:05 PM

Interest on our side is confirmed

@josephperson: I'm told #Panthers interested in former KR/WR Ted Ginn. They're not the only ones. Browns have reached out to Ginn, per @MaryKayCabot


#3254184 Mike Tolbert Attended DeAngelos Moms Funeral

Posted by teeray on 25 February 2015 - 02:58 PM

This is something that he should have just kept private. No one benefits. D-Will is one of the best Panthers of all-time and we should be celebrating his accomplishments, but instead are talking who went to his funeral and who didn't


#3254181 Cardinals Release Ted Ginn

Posted by teeray on 25 February 2015 - 02:56 PM

Well to be fair Cleveland has awesome new helmets


#3253565 Steve Smith tonight on WCCB

Posted by teeray on 24 February 2015 - 10:37 PM

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