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#3256726 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on 27 February 2015 - 02:33 PM

A year off WITH pay is NOT really a punishment.

They told him to either go on the Commissioners List with pay.....or be suspended. Hardy chose the CL.

Technicality.

But it seems that your argument is that since it wasn't the harshest penalty they could have evoked, it wasn't punishment at all. He had a choice of two punishments, and he chose the lesser of the two. That doesn't mean it isn't punishment

That is nonsense


#3256715 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on 27 February 2015 - 02:28 PM

You are dillusional if you think that getting paid $13M to sit at home, travel, and work on your rap album is a "punishment" to Hardy.

 

Get over it.

 

It isn't dillusional.  Get over it.




#3256518 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on 27 February 2015 - 12:37 PM

Most people on this board hate your jobs so you think "FUG YEAH. PAID VACATION BITCHES!!!"


What if... and I know this is freaking crazy... but what if you LOVE your job?

These guys are getting paid now. But they didn't when they were in Pop Warner, High School, college (maybe). Most guys who become productive in the NFL play because they love to play football.

They just happened to get paid well to do it.

Cam broke his back, and he felt terrible that he had to miss one game. He didn't say "Hell yes, I broke my back. Paid vacation boys!!!"

90% of this board would be stoked to get worker's compensation. These guys hate missing a single snap of the game they love. They take pain pills and injections just to get on the field. They play past ther prime longer than their bodies can hold up, just because they want to stay on that field

So quit talking about paid vacations just because your job sucks and you hate it and would gladly sit at home at get paid.


#3256448 Why Multinational Companies get massive tax breaks

Posted by teeray on 27 February 2015 - 11:44 AM

I'm an international business major and spent 2 years doing college study on multinational companies and their effect. Professors from USC were in study with me. I literally summarized 2 years study for you and even posted actual facts yet Huddle holiday inn posters still argue.

My best friend has his masters in international business. My wife works for the number one PC maker in the world, and in her old role she had to review financials with the executives once a month.

So cool. I'm glad you worked hard for your degree and did two year study. I actually agree with a lot of what you have said

But Warren Buffet has even talked about rewriting the copororate tax code to make it more fair.

I just wish he knew as much as you about multinational businesses


#3256349 Why Multinational Companies get massive tax breaks

Posted by teeray on 27 February 2015 - 10:27 AM

That not how it works. It's honestly very simple. They will make their margins no matter what.


I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but this I don't. Keeping profit margins doesn't matter if you lose a poo ton of revenue.

If you lost the purchasing power of the US you won't make half then revenue you do now.

So great you kept your 35% profit margin. To bad you can't sell anything.

What makes you more profit 35% of a billion dollars or 25% of 2 billion dollars?


#3255842 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on 26 February 2015 - 08:20 PM

The main debate seems to be some arguing whether he was technically disciplined and some are talking about whether he was actually disciplined.

Technically the NFL will say that he has not been disciplined yet. And judging from the court ruling that is the case. Jeremy, Scot and others were right about that aspect.

I contend that he was actually punished.. Other's might see it otherwise, but we are arguing semantics.

This ruling (if it is upheld on appeal) is good Hardy because it means Hardy won't likely be suspended for more than two games.

If Hardy gets suspended for two games and he appeals it, he would lose. If he gets suspended for more than two there are now two precedents that would likely get it overturned.


#3255678 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on 26 February 2015 - 05:59 PM

Don't know. Don't really care that much. I emotionally moved on from Hardy long ago


So have a lot of us. What does emotional detachment have to do with anything


#3255676 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on 26 February 2015 - 05:58 PM

Carolina was punished in 2014. Hardy not much.

Also Hardy and his agent elected to go on the list. Bc they wanted the unpaid season of vacation....


How much off his next contract do you think Hardy lost? Is loss of future earnings not punishment?


#3255672 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on 26 February 2015 - 05:56 PM

I don't know if he is innocent or guilty....wasn't there.

I know he was found guilty. He appealed. Then he paid her off and never had a round 2.

I wouldn't put my hard on money on claiming he was moistly likely innocent. NC quirky law has nothing to do with how I would view wager on someone in a given scenario

Why do you think he paid her off? Because the DA said it while hedging?


#3255641 Judge overturns Peterson suspension

Posted by teeray on 26 February 2015 - 05:26 PM

My patents kept switches over the freaking refrigerator just in case.

I got belts and switches at times as a kid.

But times have changed. Plus the Peterson kid was like 4. A little to young for switches IMO


#3255637 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on 26 February 2015 - 05:22 PM

What if you are on the exempt list and u have performance escalators in your contract? That would be punishment wouldn't it?

This whole commissioner's exempt status is a cluster


#3255627 NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been discipline...

Posted by teeray on 26 February 2015 - 05:14 PM

didn't read the whole thread and i'm not likely to, but hardy wasn't exactly disciplined. he was basically given a $13mil paid vacation with no responsibilities.


How the hell is that being disciplined?

What if you put in the context of future earnings? He has likely lost millions of dollar's from his next contract. For a crime he may have not even committed.

Is that not punishment?


#3255268 Judge overturns Peterson suspension

Posted by teeray on 26 February 2015 - 12:48 PM

Why do you think 2 at worst?

Because when the Hardy stuff happened general suspension for domestic issue was 2 games.

They retroactively created this commissioners exempt list policy, then minimum 6 game suspension.

Both Ray Rice case and this case will say you can't make new rules after the fact and try to enforce them

That is why I say worst would likely be 2 games.


#3255257 Judge overturns Peterson suspension

Posted by teeray on 26 February 2015 - 12:34 PM

NFLPA is 2 for 2 on these appeals to courts with the new policies. I am interested to read the ruling, but it is becoming clear you can't make up a rule and then retroactively apply it to someone.

Means Hardy likely at worst would be looking at 2 game suspension.

Another big question will be whether judge had an opinion on commissioners exempt list being disciplinary in nature


#3255253 Judge overturns Peterson suspension

Posted by teeray on 26 February 2015 - 12:30 PM

What do you people do for a living that you can respond so fast to these happening??????


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