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Soul Rebel

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#3319456 Reminder: the Pro Day season just ended. Every mock or big board you've r...

Posted by Soul Rebel on 12 April 2015 - 09:25 AM

All it takes is a trade or two to shuffle the board incredibly. That can't be predicted in a mock.  There's always a few trades on day 1, and I'm sure there will be again this year. I mean, Mariota is meeting with the Chargers (17). We're meeting with Parker (25), etc.  It's fun to mock it out, but like the Bortles pick last year, we're only a homerun swing away from chaos according to media mock drafts. 

 

Oakland is always a wildcard and there could be a team that makes a Julio Jones like move or a perceived reach (Seattle with Irvin) to change things up.

 

I love the draft. It's my Christmas and I will have adult beverage in hand to take in all three days of the glory that is the NFL Draft.  Plus the potential meltdown on here is entertaining in and of itself. 




#3319451 Greg Cosell: Todd Gurley "arguably the #1 prospect in this draft"

Posted by Soul Rebel on 12 April 2015 - 09:13 AM

I know an ACL injury is a gamble, but it's not a silver bullet by any stretch.  Gurley suffered it at 20 years old and, much like Peterson and Lynch, is a physical specimen with a frame that can overcome it.

 

Speaking of Peterson, after tearing his ACL, he put up a 2,000+ yard season, followed by a 1,200 yard season.

 

In three seasons since his ACL injury, Jamaal Charles has put up over 3,800 rushing yards and 26 touchdowns, along with another 1,200 yards and 12 touchdowns receiving.

 

These might be outliers in this conversation, but if you can believe that Gurley is an elite talent at RB, then there's no reason to think that he can't recover like other elite level RBs.  The injury is nowhere near the extent of Lattimer or even McGahee's blowout in the National Championship game at the U.

 

I don't think he will be an option at 25, but if he is, we need to run that card up to the Commish.

 




#3319446 NFL.com: 7 teams with most obvious 1st-round draft need (Panthers #4)

Posted by Soul Rebel on 12 April 2015 - 08:59 AM

also note:

"5. Denver Broncos: Offensive tackle
Much like Carolina, Denver must take care of a veteran quarterback whose health and success are key to the team's success. In this case, it's Peyton Manning, who is more fragile and less mobile than Newton and therefore needs the edge protected even more effectively. ... It's possible that the Broncos could go for defense at No. 28, but there is a wide gap between first-round offensive tackles and those that Denver could look at in the second round (No. 59) or third (No. 92)."

 

This line of thinking by NFLN is spot on in regards to available OTs after round one. There will be a few available at 25, but if we bypass it there, I only see 1 potential OT falling to 57, if we're lucky. It could be Ogbuehi or maybe Clemmings, but I anticipate a run on OTs mid-first round, and then the rest get gobbled up early 2nd.

 

I don't care which position we address at 25 and 57 because I think there will be a homerun awaiting us at any path, depending on who gets selected prior.  

 

It's all preference for DG, and I think Landon Collins and Todd Gurley are the wildcards for us.  If one of them is there, I think it's a no-brainer. I'd love if somehow Devante Parker could slide because he's my favorite WR in this class for what we need, that is within reason, but I don't see him making it out of the top-20.

 

Back to the comment about first round OTs though.  If Carolina is dead-set on getting a starting-calibre OT for 2015, they're going to have to do it in the 1st round.  After that, you've got talented guys that could be eventual pieces like Rob Crisp, Daryl Williams, etc.  With the way DG has put a band-aid over the OL this offseason with the signings of Oher/Martin, it makes a ton of sense that OT is put off a bit in this draft.

 

That being said, I believe our pick at 25 will be Odighi from UCLA.  Kid is a beast and his metrics equate to a good trajectory at the next level. 

Owamagbe+Odighizuwa+Nebraska+v+UCLA+bUOO

 

Besides, the only position that Getts hasn't added to yet in free agency (other than QB & kickers), is defensive end. 

 

RB - Todman

WR - Ginn, Boykin, Brown

TE - Dickson 

OL - Oher, Martin

DT - Cole, Edwards

LB - Trusnik

CB - Williams, Tillman

S - Coleman

 

#Gettlemagic




#3303409 Panthers claim OT Jonathan Martin

Posted by Soul Rebel on 28 March 2015 - 08:42 AM

Good analysis.

They're checking out another guy too (visited yesterday).

Saw that.... great find!  

 

Not familiar w/ him, other than he was a former 2nd round pick and was a back up on the Jets last year.  Their OL was pretty horrible last year too, so if he couldn't crack the lineup, then he is simply just depth.....which I'm okay with.

 

Would rather stock the cupboards heading into the draft and this summer, and have to cut folks instead of scrambling to add talent. 




#3303406 Alan Ball signs with Bears

Posted by Soul Rebel on 28 March 2015 - 08:39 AM

No hate here, he's closer to home.

But if no decent CB is added, this may become #1 on the needs. In a passing league and the only keepers are bene, josh and melvin. Need another starter on the outside, so bene can move to NB and make plays.

Disagree.  

 

I don't understand the people that want to move Bene inside so much.  He played boundary at SJSU and did fine, outside of the Seattle game as our CB2.  Easier in the draft/FA to find a nickel than a starting outside CB.  If we do find one, fine, but we can find another Bene in rounds 3-5.  

 

Guys like Josh Shaw, Doran Grant and Jacoby Glenn to name a few. 

 

I do believe the Panthers will address this need in the draft, but I don't see them going after a #1 CB, though I would love Marcus Peters if he drops.




#3303383 Panthers claim OT Jonathan Martin

Posted by Soul Rebel on 28 March 2015 - 08:26 AM

First off PFF is an inaccurate website

And if he did grade out better than Bell it isn't saying much. Your basically replacing dog s**t with cat s**t.

I'm hoping for the best though cause between Oher and Martin Cam is in for another rough season.

 

I don't know about this, but I do see your opinion.

 

My thought is, an OL is made up of 5 guys that build chemistry, and are strong as a sum of their parts. 

 

Oher, Remmers & Martin might not be All-Pro tackles or anything more than average tackles, but when they bookend Norwell-Kalil-Turner, the whole unit balances out their deficiencies. 

 

I think 1 of these 3 tackles will emerge as an above average tackle this year.  That gives you 4 out of 5 OL that are dependable.  Norwell, Kalil, Turner and Remmers have 1/2 a season to build off of, and if they can stay healthy, I think this OL is instantly better than the crap we saw for most of last season in the trenches.

 

I might be a homer here, but I will wait to judge Oher before seeing him healthy and reunited with Matzko.  I will also hold judgment on Martin until I see him with this team.  We're getting Martin in late March, which gives him all offseason to get acclimated to the core of that line.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if both flop here, but knowing how changes of scenery and being fully removed from injuries can have positive affects, I'm willing to give them both the benefit of the doubt.  

 

Regardless, I think if we roll out Oher-Norwell-Kalil-Turner-Remmers or Oher-Norwell-Kalil-Turner-Martin, it will be stronger, better and safer for Cam & the running game, than it was in 2014.

 

Considering the $1M pricetag for a former 2nd round pick that is only 25 years old, I'm good with it.  Worst case it's depth if that horrible injury bug bites us again.  Martin can step in and at least provide a band-aid.

 

Just my 2 pennies.




#3302337 Panthers claim OT Jonathan Martin

Posted by Soul Rebel on 27 March 2015 - 03:28 PM

Not mad about this at all. Not a fan of his past in Miami, and didn't pan out in SF, but SF had a pretty nasty OL.

 

Young, talented and provides instant depth.  Could definitely see this locker room helping get him back on track, and him being our RT by late in the season.




#3301941 Jarrett Boykin signed to 1 year deal

Posted by Soul Rebel on 27 March 2015 - 12:52 PM

Another special teams guy...cool.

Exactly. I hope nobody sees this as our answer at WR. Turning ST from weakness to strength.


#3299219 Panthers veteran players that may be on the bubble

Posted by Soul Rebel on 25 March 2015 - 05:57 PM

I'm almost thinking a reversal on Tolbert. I thought he would make the most sense given his lack of production last year, injury-plagued season in '14, UFA in '16 and his semi-high salary for a FB.... a position that is quickly becoming obsolete due to the h-back and single-set RB look.

 

Then I saw a stat where the Panthers were 7-3 with Tolbert in the lineup and 1-6-1 without him.  Not sure of the correlation, but crazy coincidence of his impact.  I remember way more miscues and lackluster performances from him, than great games in '14. 

 

If we lose Cotchery, we probably replace him with a vet (Jennings), so that doesn't open a roster spot.

 

I agree Cole is probably on the outside looking in.  Harper would be next on the chopping block, especially if we end up with Collins somehow.

 

I also believe someone like Bersin or Colin Jones if Carolina snags an early CB in the draft.




#3297382 FOX's Peter Schrager: "I expect Carolina to take a WR in the 1st R"

Posted by Soul Rebel on 24 March 2015 - 12:30 PM

Love everything about Perriman..... except his hands.  They're bad.  Very suspect and inconsistent.  One play he will make an incredible high-point grab, and the next he will drop a wide open catch.  Very KB-esque like last year.  

 

KB wasn't as bad as advertised, but he did frustrate us a lot this past year with his drops.  

 

If Proehl can help with their techniques and improve the pass catching, Perriman is a bonafide top-20 selection.  

 

Perfect frame, fast, fluid, big hands, incredible vertical, doesn't shy away from physicality.  Only knocks on him are level of talent faced at UCF and his hands.  

 

Honestly, at #25 there is a severe knock on every WR.

 

Strong - Stiff & lacks separation

DGB - off field/character issues

Smith - route running

Agholor - frame/physicality

Perriman - hands

 

For me, Smith and Agholor are my personal faves, but Perriman is right behind them.  

 




#3295914 Panthers show interest in RB John Crockett

Posted by Soul Rebel on 23 March 2015 - 02:25 PM

Great. A player that won't help us.

 

Sarcasm?

 

Not sure if you're for real or not, but this kid was a beast last season.  1,994 rushing yards, 21 touchdowns in '14.  Great vision, has speed, an extra gear to turn on the jets, ellusive and an ideal size to be an every down back.  He was also a solid receiver out of the back field.  

 

I know the school is not an SEC or Pac-12 school, but Northern Iowa is in the same conference, and that's where David Johnson went. Johnson should go before Crockett, but I could see Crockett go as early as the 4th, but more than likely 5-6 rounds.  

 

He screams a Dave Gettleman late-round gem.  

 




#3295348 Panthers talk to Greg Jennings

Posted by Soul Rebel on 23 March 2015 - 08:44 AM

Agree with Thomas on this.  

 

It's about value and salary.  AJ is making $7M+ in '15 and '16 and is two years older.  

 

Both WRs are putting up similar numbers and expectations are about the same, only Jennings would cost 1/2 the price.  

 

Jennings isn't going to be the beast that he was in GB with Favre/Rodgers, but a solid 70 reception - 750 yard - 8 TD campaign is likely here.  I'd take that, even though Johnson is the more talented WR.  Jennings at $3.5M-4M > Johnson at $7.5M




#3295315 Nelson Agholor WR USC

Posted by Soul Rebel on 23 March 2015 - 08:09 AM

Kid won't be there with our 2nd rounder.  If we want him, take him at #25 and see it much the way Carolina did last year at #28.  The cluster of receivers from last year included:

 

Benji

Robinson

Lee

Matthews

Latimer

Adams

 

Though not as many to consider at 28, there are a handful of guys that bring someting different to the table:

 

Strong

Agholor

Smith

DGB

 

Agholor and Smith are my faves for WR at 28.  Strong doesn't do it for me.  Stiff, can't separate from defenders and his game speed looks a little slow for me. Strong has his strengths - physical, tracking, & high pointing the ball, but I feel like we already have that with KB13.

 

Agholor's routes are a thing of beauty, he has no problem in traffic, has an extra gear to leave defenders in the dust, and is great in space. For me, this is the kind of WR we need between Benji and Olsen. Though Agholor might not be the 'sexy name' like Strong/DGB, he is an amazing fit for the Panthers.   

 




#3294020 Panthers talk to Greg Jennings

Posted by Soul Rebel on 21 March 2015 - 10:24 PM

Solid pick up. He will be 32 in September but has good dependable hands. #Getts

 

This is why I want him here.  His hands and experience.  It's what we hoped Cotchery would bring, but even last year, Cotch should not have been viewed as our WR2.  Jennings, though he might not be the sexiest FA signing, is much more reliable than guys that we wanted like Crabtree, Nicks, & Moore.  

 

Getts waited out the first rush of FAs, and now that the market has seriously died down, he is looking to pounce on a veteran.  Really surprised Jennings has lasted this long.  He's not a dominating force any more, but he certainly fits in to what this team needs at WR.




#3294008 Everyone Pie this man....

Posted by Soul Rebel on 21 March 2015 - 10:16 PM

http://www.carolinah...ings/?p=3293606


a rumor that panned out... amazing!


Thanks Jeremy! Much better outcome than the sh1tstorm/ban that could've happened. #GettleMagic