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Davidson Deac II

Member Since 24 Nov 2008
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In Topic: Hundreds of Students Walk Out of Class to Protest "Positive" Spin on...

Yesterday, 11:22 AM

I think kids should learn from song.

 

In 1814 we took a little trip
Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip.
We took a little bacon an' we took a little beans
And we caught the bloody British at the town of New Orleans


In Topic: Whiskey lovers

30 September 2014 - 02:35 PM

On the rare occasions that I drink, Dickel is probably my favorite. 


In Topic: What if Jesus was made up?

29 September 2014 - 10:51 PM

So the most important figure ever to have lived...had people following him since birth yet the first gospels are written as you say 30-40 years AFTER HIS DEATH? Some historians put it at 60-75 years.

Once a tale is told i would imagine there would be others trying to give their own accounts.. To clamor for attention, money, credibility, power. It seems to be a format the post "Quest for Fire" crowd was really drawn to. Sell the character as the spokesperson for your religion and walah!

Hollywood today is no different...

Or in the 90's: Volcano? Well we have Dante's Peak!
Armageddon? Well we have Deep Impact.
Big? We have Like Father like Son... Ok thats deep 80's.

You have a Sun god named Horus well we have Dionoyssys...we have Jesus..etc

 

I am not really sure of the point you are trying to make here. 


In Topic: What if Jesus was made up?

29 September 2014 - 09:56 PM

Couldn't agree more. There is no known record of Jesus based on eyewitness accounts, only stories based on hearsay decades/centuries after he was purported to have lived. Mary wasn't even determined to be a virgin until hundreds of years after the fact.

It is difficult not to have sympathy for people who lived in an age without youtube. They missed out on so much, like this life changing philosophy...

http://youtu.be/8vgDpI8kU98?t=3m15s

 

Personally I think that the number of gospels from different authors probably means that he did exist.  And from what I have read, the biblical gospels were probably written about 30-40 years after the death of Christ. 

 

As far as the stories of the things he did, my guess is that they were legends that tended to grow over the years or things that intentionally or unintentionally misremember over the years.  Fwiw, that kind of ting happens a lot.  Davy Crockett didn't really kill a bear when he was three, George Washington probably could tell a lie when he needed to, and George Patton never stood in the middle of a street shooting his revolver at a German Plane. 


In Topic: What if Jesus was made up?

29 September 2014 - 05:15 PM

So there was a coordinated conspiracy by every religious leader, historian, philosopher, and government official of that time to ensure that there would be no record of Jesus ever existing because they didn't like him? Who do you presume was orchestrating this widespread conspiracy?

What about everyone that supported and believed in Christ or the average Joe that simply witnessed his miracles? Were they all illiterate or were they simply in on the conspiracy as well?

 

The bible looks at Jesus as larger than life, the Messiah, Son of God etc... and apparently so did his followers.  But he never conquered anything, never ran for office, and was likely one of probably hundreds of religious prophets who claimed they did miracles, or had others claim the same.  Whether he did them or not is irrelevant irt historical writings, because its unlikely the witnesses would have been believed by the scholars of the day.  Even if you believe the bible is 100% the word of god, he didn't do anything (that was witnessed by anyone of importance) that would have been recorded by those who did not follow him.  And crucifixion was standard Roman punishment, so its highly unlikely that would have been recorded in any permanent records.  And lets say he did walk on water and it was witnessed by someone like Josephus.  Had Josephus recorded it, he likely would have been regarded as a Christian fanatic and his writings largely ignored.   

 

And they didn't have youtube back in those days.  :)


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