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#3324814 Seahawks GM hints he'll just let Wilson walk if he doesn't lower his...

Posted by CarolinaSock on 17 April 2015 - 12:33 PM

Newton, who best offensive player WAS A ROOKIE TAKEN AS THE 8TH PASS CATCHER, should not be given franchise QB money.

It's getting a little old how most of our fan base seems to ignore the fact that we have a top 5 tight end as our best offensive player. I'd be pretty tired of hearing Cam had no weapons if I was Olsen.

#3311192 Hardy's Panthers workout "went very well"

Posted by CarolinaSock on 03 April 2015 - 03:07 PM

Jerry Rice ran in the 4.7 range, Edelman had the same time as Hardy, Welker ran over a 4.6, Antonio Brown ran a 4.47 a whopping .05 of a second faster. Threads like this remind why I'm so glad many of you have no say in personnel, we'd have a team that would be awesome at basketball and a track meet, too bad we're trying to field a football team.

#3310623 Curry makes sauce out of Chris Paul's ankles

Posted by CarolinaSock on 02 April 2015 - 09:58 PM


They still have no post game. There's a difference between posting and getting layups. They have a 6'7 guy starting at PF. That won't work four games in a row against a more experienced defensive playoff team. The layups come because defenders won't leave their shooters.  Say their shooters get cold for a game or two in a series, the easy buckets aren't gonna come. (see: the Bulls game at Oracle). You could easily say that was an outlier, but think about the kind of defense Chicago plays and the intensity the have. That's what they're gonna face every game when it is ramped up in the postseason. The Warriors will jack it up. The only reason they aren't seen as chuckers is because they make most of their shots. But do you think they can keep up the top FG% (off/def) clip once defenses start to matchup with them for games in a row at a time? They are a great team.  Those numbers however, are on obvious aberration. 
Now you say they are deep, which is true. Lee, Igudola, Barbosa, Livingston, Speights make up a great bench. Here's the problem however;their system isn't good enough for those guys to take over games at a time.The Warriors energy and effort is completely drawn from Steph and Klay. If one or two of those guys have an off night (and Klay has proven to be very inconsistent in his playoff games) the team will fall apart because the other guys, sans Lee, aren't the type that can keep the team up in their own. They feed completely off of two guys. 
Look at the Spurs bench. If Parker is having an off night, Mills brings a completely different energy and game to the floor. If Splitter is off, Diaw can come in as the most versatile player on the floor and change the game. Same goes for Green and GinoblI, they bring all bring different things. Even Bellineli and Bonner can knock down shots, while Leonard and Duncan are more of the grit/grind type of players. Even Baynes is a massive body.
The Warriors don't have gamechangers coming off the bench. Igudola is an athlete like Barnes, only difference is Iggy is a much surperior passer with better court vision. He's a great defender too so he can have that advantage. Lee and Green are both finesse forwards. Speights is a finesse guy as well, though he does have a far different game from Bogut. Livingston and Barbosa are good players, but they're not guys that can take over games like a Spurs bench can. From the Bulls bench, Mirotic and Brooks are gamechangers with Gibson being a far different type of forward than a soft guy like Pau. All of the best benches have gamechangers. The Warriors have role players.
Fact is: They have all-star talent. They are great individually. But you can't tell me that they haven't decreased their role to embrace the team concept. And that's not a bad thing or a knock on them, it's just a fact. They are not playing as effective as they were when they were starting. Now that's an obvious effect of moving to the bench, but it creates the misconception that because they are all-stars off the bench, that they're playing like all-stars. They are not playing like all-stars. They're being role players and feeding off of the Steph and Klay show.
Another problem is maturity. This team won a playoff series against the Nuggets and lost to SA. Last year they were ousted in a tough one against LAC. They're experienced. But they aren't mature. Watch their bench and the way they act on the court. After every made shot, it's like they won a championship. That's fine. It adds to the comradery and gets the fans going. But when those shots aren't falling, what do they do? Sulk. Moan. Complain to referees. Kerr is too nice of a coach. He allows them to get away with non-championship antics. The Spurs act like they've been there before. LeBron is humble. Pretty much every champion in history has a certain maturity level. These guys don't. They feed off of hype.
Those are the reasons I think they are a regular-season paper team. To sum it up:
-They are indeed, a jumpshooting team. You made the point they get layups;that's only because their shooters are so good. When defenses lock down when the lights are on, there won't be any cheating off of anyone on defense, and outside of Steph they aren't good enough one-one to beat that when the other team plays committed 5 on 5 defense
-The bench is full of role players, not game changers
-The team feeds off of two players entirely
-They have an immature mentality when it comes to playing the game
-They have no inside presence to slow down the game. San Antonio or Memphis will kill these guys because they won't let them get out and run with silly turnovers
-Can be shaky on the road at times
-Defense has a lot to prove. Obviously, they're #1 in the NBA. But how much of that is from teams pressing to play catch-up with their offense? A lot, in my opinion. Seeing as how the game will slow down come playoff time, that won't be happening and are open to being exposed.
And for the record, I never said the Thunder would beat the Warriors. I said Westbrook would outplay Curry.




Could you possibly add a few more assumptions, opinions and complete conjecture in to your post? I think almost saw a fact or two in that post so you might want to fix it. They can and have overcome cold shooting nights with lockdown defense. In fact they excel at lower scoring games considering they haven't lost this year when they've given up under 100 points. Every team that's ever had a double digit point differential has made it to the finals, and the only team that didn't win lost to another team with a double digit point differential. Your reaching badly because the numbers don't support your point of view at all no matter what stats you use.

#3296098 DraftTek's Mock for the Panthers: March 23, 2015

Posted by CarolinaSock on 23 March 2015 - 04:00 PM

With Peat, Goldman, and Peters still there, I dunno about Thompson being the pick.

#3287689 Stephen Hill

Posted by CarolinaSock on 17 March 2015 - 10:00 AM

For some perspective it was reported David Foucault was kept on the active roster so he wouldn't be snatched from our practice squad. There were no such concerns with Stephen Hill and 31 other teams decided he wasn't worth a roster spot.

#3271966 Panthers Not Set At Wide Receiver

Posted by CarolinaSock on 09 March 2015 - 05:12 PM

I'm trying to understand the fascination with Smith as a #2. He caught one more pass than Cotchery in 15 more targets with a 34 year old Steve Smith as his only real competition for looks at wide receiver.

#3267266 Percy Harvin

Posted by CarolinaSock on 07 March 2015 - 02:45 AM

Minnesota got a good offer from Seattle which is why they traded him. Before he got injured that year he was an MVP candidate his play was that good. In his first season with Seattle he was still injured but came back and showed off in the Super Bowl. Jets are moving away because his contract is huge.

Gave up is hardly the right word.


Seattle traded away a guy they gave up a 1st and 3rd round pick for and signed to a big contract after just one year for a throw away pick. If that's not giving up on him I don't know what is. Also 62 catches for 677 yards and 3 tds is hardly MVP numbers in nine games.

#3248084 Gurley denying Knee examination at Combine.

Posted by CarolinaSock on 20 February 2015 - 08:08 PM

USA today article says Dr Andrews advised him not to let them physically examine it so soon after surgery.



#3244792 Rivera said countless times we so or have drafted Russell Wilson as a backup....

Posted by CarolinaSock on 17 February 2015 - 04:48 PM

The whining on here would be epic if Doug Baldwin was Cam's #1 with Jermaine Kearse as the #2. Regardless of how good our defense was people would be screaming for better weapons. Whenever Wilson is discussed his defense is mentioned as a weapon for him, I don't remember the same for Cam last year when we had the #2 defense, or even this year when our defense carried us the second half of the year. It's OK to give other quarterbacks credit for what they do without having to try to diminish it every way possible to make Cam look better by comparison.

#3229546 Russell Wilson is smoke and mirrors.

Posted by CarolinaSock on 03 February 2015 - 10:34 AM

Why are people acting like timing patterns are a bad thing or a crutch? Elite offenses are all about timing routes and throwing the ball where the receiver is going to be rather than where he is. One reason Cam has to throw darts into tight windows is because he often throws the ball when he sees the window rather than anticipating when the window will show up. You don't have to throw a hundred miles an hour every throw if you can anticipate. Manning has been getting it done with well below average arm strength for years now because he'll often throw the ball before the receiver is even open.

#3227736 Russell Wilson is smoke and mirrors.

Posted by CarolinaSock on 02 February 2015 - 12:38 AM

The jealousy the Cam fans have around here is just unreal. Those floaters that just happen to land in the wide receivers hands are called touch and timing, something Cam could certainly improve on. Wilson had 5 undrafted free agents at receiver tonight and a 5th round tight end, in what world is that a good supporting cast? Don't tell me one running back is what makes his supporting cast great or the defense, because our excellent defense never seems to get mentioned as part of Cam's supporting cast.

#3203559 Nine more players signed to 'future contracts'

Posted by CarolinaSock on 13 January 2015 - 05:05 PM

Newton on espn says Hill is expected to sign one tomorrow.


#3201333 Lack of talent around Cam is showing

Posted by CarolinaSock on 12 January 2015 - 06:25 PM

That was the same supporting cast that went 2-14 and ranked last in offense the previous year. Cam made a huge difference.


We didn't have Olsen or Shockey in 2010, and a completely different coaching staff, how is that the same cast?

#3200544 Cam's Most Important Offseason Yet

Posted by CarolinaSock on 12 January 2015 - 01:10 PM

Does anyone here actually know that Shula and Dorsey are not working with Cam on all these issues or are we just making assumptions because we want to put as little blame as possible on Cam for his weaknesses?

#3195578 Lack of talent around Cam is showing

Posted by CarolinaSock on 10 January 2015 - 11:34 PM

If people think Cam lacks talent around him have they seen what Wilson is working with? 2 undrafted free agents are his top targets, along with a 5th round tight end and a 2nd round rookie. Stewart had more yards on the ground than Lynch tonight even with Lynch's 25 yard run. When will the fault ever be on Cam?