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iampantherman

Member Since 02 Aug 2011
Offline Last Active Mar 30 2013 09:42 PM
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In Topic: Luke, Jon, and Thomas

30 March 2013 - 09:42 PM

I'm not going to break down an entire list of silly things in the book just to pass the time; suffice to say it left an impression of some neophyte randomly flailing about hoping to stretch her liberal arts degree into a respectable career. Let's put it this way: she discounts the references from the Jewish historian Josephus on Jesus by claiming they're forged, and the references from the Roman senator Tacitus by calling all of his writings are forgeries written over 1200 years later. By the time you get through the typical Jesus myth story there's more forgeries involved than the mafia. Here's the kicker, though: nowhere in Roman or Jewish records of that time do you find anyone doubting the existence of Jesus, which is strange if you are being blamed for crucifying and killing a man who didn't exist.

It's fine if you've made your mind up, but frankly I doubt you've done one billionth of the research I have in the subject.



And I'll forego breaking down the laundry list of highly dubious claims, "evidence" and outright falsehoods that "support" the story of Jesus as factual just to pass the time.

I've had far too many of these debates and it always comes down to what sources you put your trust in. But if you dig deep enough, the roots of conspiracy and myth are exposed. Religious apologists have a vested interest in perpetuating their mythology. Religion/faith is a deeply emotional and highly profitable endeavor, and any attempts to shed light on the fraud and enlighten the sheep are met with vigorous resistance on both ends of that spectrum, and understandably so.

I have no animus towards the faithful, only towards deception.

And to presume that I've done little research relative to you regarding the subject of religion and its origins, in all its variations, is to presume way too much. You may continue to engage me in this conversation, but I said in the beginning that I wasn't interested in debating this topic. Despite my knowing better I replied anyway, and I can see that if I continue that I will be going down that familiar road. I've done it enough.

Happy Easter! :devil:

In Topic: Luke, Jon, and Thomas

30 March 2013 - 08:40 PM

Read it two years ago. Fail.


Perhaps it's your choice of words, but this sounds like you did not read it.

Oh, I'm sure a devoted astrotheoligist who self publishes under a pseudonym her groundbreaking research under the spiritual guidance of her Greek heritage counts as truly stunning insight into the topic.


It was hilarious reading, particularly the extrapolation of Anup the Baptizer, who is nowhere to be found in Egyptian manuscripts. It can be found in the work of Gerald Massey, however. .. a 19th century poet.


And if this is the only criticism you can muster, I think you likely skimmed the work. It really is irrelevant, however. The apologists have their "true", "historically reliable" sources just like the critics have theirs.

You've made up your mind, as have I. Believe what you will.

In Topic: Luke, Jon, and Thomas

30 March 2013 - 08:08 PM

Oh, I'm sure a devoted astrotheoligist who self publishes under a pseudonym her groundbreaking research under the spiritual guidance of her Greek heritage counts as truly stunning insight into the topic. How can one hope to compete with her bachelor's degree in Greek Classics? The simple fact she read half of Plato's Republic must give her boundless insight into Jewish, Aramaic and Roman history.



To impugn a work that you haven't read is clearly the scholarly approach. With that mindset, I'm sure you're a wealth of knowledge.

In Topic: Luke, Jon, and Thomas

30 March 2013 - 06:21 PM



It is perfectly valid to question whether Jesus did all the things attributed to him; it is not reasonable to assume he didn't exist at all because he didn't sit in your lap and say "Hi!"




I think it's perfectly reasonable to question/ dispute the actual existence of Jesus. In fact there is, in my view, an absolute avalanche of evidence the places the character firmly in the realm of mythology. I'd start by reading D.M. Murdock's Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection. I have no interest in debating the topic, but to suggest that it is irrefutable fact that this character was real, is quite a stretch in my view.

In Topic: Dear Cowboy Fans

30 March 2013 - 11:57 AM

He sort of did once, specifically when he hired Bill Parcells.

Unfortunately for Cowboy fans, Jones saw Parcells failure to win a Super Bowl as proof that he didn't need a football guy in charge. By his thinking, it meant that he was just as good a GM as Parcells.

(this is typical of how a narcissist sees things)



Well, in JJ's defense, narcissism is harder to avoid when you've enjoyed a great deal of personal success. His failing is in thinking that success in one endeavor automatically translates to acumen in another. It's quite the blind spot he walks around with, sadly for Cowboy's fans, happily for the rest of us.

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