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#3009184 #19 ECU @ USF...HOMECOMING...whoops

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 10 October 2014 - 05:03 PM

Your ranking in the top 25 doesn't guarantee that you get the access bowl spot. It is determined by a committee. I'm pretty sure they're not just going to look at the coaches and AP polls and choose from that alone.

Phil Steele predicts an undefeated Marshall in over a 1 loss ECU. Not that that means anything, I only point it out because there is no way an undefeated Marshall outranks ECU in the polls if ECU doesn't lose another game.

Marshall probably has 3-4 bowl teams left on the schedule. They'll all be in poo bowls, but MT will almost certainly be a bowl game. FIU and UAB have actually looked decent this year and already have 3 wins. ODU has 3 as well with 3 winnable games left on the schedule. WKU could possibly make a bowl, but they'll have a tougher time of it with 4 more wins needed.

I left VT off because while they're not bad, they're not as good as everyone thought after they beat OSU. They have an easy schedule left though, so I'm sure they'll end up with 8 or 9 wins, but they're not top 25 good.

If Marshall gets in over ECU, they'll change scheduling philosophies in G5 conferences. Everyone will race to schedule the easiest games possible to better their chances of going undefeated.

Wasn't talking about the AP or the Coaches Poll, I was talking about the Committee Poll, which is released I believe for the first time next week

Leaving VT who you claim to be a potential 8-9 win team out because they aren't as good as people thought they were while including UNC not being good makes this conversation null and void. The VT win is the sole reason, in my opinion, that ECU has a leg up on Marshall. I also believe that UNC will be a 6-6 bowl team. That's 2 more things than Marshall has.

You and i both know that if ECU doesn't lose another game, the committee will continue to vote them higher than Marshall. If at the end of the season they are ranked higher by the committee, they will gain the access boll nod.

#3007847 #19 ECU @ USF...HOMECOMING...whoops

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 09 October 2014 - 07:38 PM

ECU couldn't lose 2 games and get to an access bowl.


However, a 1 loss ECU team would get to an access bowl over an undefeated Marshall simply because Marshall's strength of schedule is the worst in FBS, and ECU has one of the better SOS's amongst the G5 teams.

#3006181 Shane Carden - Heisman hopeful ESPNU interview

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 08 October 2014 - 05:15 PM

That's just so untrue it's hilarious. Why do you spout such bullsh*t? Do you know how incredibly rare true sellouts are anyways? They never happen. Even Michigan, one of the only guaranteed true sellout stadiums in the nation can't sell out The Big House anymore. Of course the UNC game is going to be a true sellout just for geographic purposes alone. Dowdy Ficklen was over capacity (50000) for 5 of the 6 home games in 2010 and for all 6 of the home games in 2011 and in case you forgot UNC came to Greenville neither of those years. The haven't had less than 8000 empty seats in the stadium for a single game since 2005. No other team in the country puts more butts in seats with less exposure than we do.


Did you go to school at ECU when John Thompson coached there or something? How old are you?


Just because you attended school somewhere doesn't mean you've got a high holy idea what the hell right from left is when you're talking about something. The only thing that's guaranteed is that you simply were there for a given period of time.


We're 19th in the country dude, you do such a bad and misinformed job of trashing something you have no idea about. What did you like not have any friends in college or something?

#3005984 Shane Carden - Heisman hopeful ESPNU interview

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 08 October 2014 - 03:22 PM

You average 4K fans for a college basketball game lol. That is fickle and fair weather. Outside of football and baseball (when you're good) ECU doesn't support their athletic teams. Not to mention it's in the middle of no where North Carolina.... How the heck do you not have more than 4K fans at a basketball game?!?!


You said a couple of things that I'm actually interested in talking about, and I tried to keep it short, but it was hard. Just take a minute and read it you may find it interesting.


The reason that we only fill up half of our basketball arena is more of a classical conditioning thing (you know, Pavlov rings the bell dog thinks he's getting a treat) than anything else. ECU moved up to D1-A football and became an independent (no conference was interested) in 1977 in an effort to grow the university as a whole, and it worked. There's more money and exposure in football and always will be, so it was a smart move. They got kicked out of the SoCon because the SoCon didn't want a team that wasn't all in. So, they actually played basketball as an indpendent for like 5 years which as you know just makes no flipping sense, and then had to toss all of their other sports in the CAA (which they actually won in men's basketball once if that's any indication). The consequence of this was that they made the choice to focus on football and olympic sports over basketball and olympic sports, reason being because there simply weren't resources to effectively keep both of the big money sports on the up and up. So, the basketball team took the sideline, they practiced in an old ROTC gym for decades and played at a decrepit Minges until 1994 when it was half-ass renovated. You don't bring good D1 players to that situation, you just don't.


This practice changed when Terry Holland was hired in 2004. His vision for ECU was cost-efficient, modern facilities and good coaching in all sports (I know, what AD's vision isn't that...but Holland was damn good). From a basketball facilities standpoint, Holland has said multiple times that he hates Minges. We all hate Minges. Minges sucks. It was poorly built and it's a complete dump, but it's there and ECU has no choice but to just figure something out. To get the improvement process started, he wanted to put a practice facility in Minges (yeah, we didn't actually get a basketball facility until 2012) and afterward renovate the arena little by little. That was successful venture, and it got a lot of energy from the fanbase. From a basketball coaching standpoint, he hired former VA Tech coach Ricky Stokes to gut and turn around the program. That was a failure, Stokes went 14-44 in 2 years and was fired. The energy that was generated from the planned capital improvements was lost by their play on the court and they were back to square 0. When he hired Lebo, who is a good diamond in the rough recruiter, the rebuilding process began. That's where we are now. I'd say we've gone from square 0 to square 1.  But, the facility improvements and the fact that the team is actually decently competitive now is reminding people that we actually have a basketball team. That's something.


This brings me back to the classical conditioning part, ECU fans are trained to think football first and baseball second, football first and baseball second, they're hypnotized. They think the basketball program doesn't matter because the administration never cared about it until just recently. The practice now is trying to get people to realize that the team actually has competitive athletes now, and it's no longer a putrid team instead it's now a mediocre one that's improving. The attendance will improve this season, not by much but it will. Believe it or not, attendance was actually worse 3 years ago. UConn, Cincy, SMU, and the return of Memphis to Greenville are going to be games people are going to want to see. Also, until this year you have to understand that ECU's basketball games were NEVER televised. This year all but 6 of our games we will be on the ESPN family or ESPN3, whereas before you'd maybe see 6 total instead of all but 6. That's a big deal.


In terms of baseball, you're just wrong there. ECU's baseball is heavily supported and we consistently are in the top 30 in attendance in the country (26th in '14, 23rd in '13, 21st in '12, 21st in '11, and 16th in '10, I didn't go back farther than this but it's been this way for a long time). We also consistently have the best attendance in the state. That's just an incorrect assumption there.


And when you say it's in the middle of nowhere North Carolina, you are correct BUT you have to think about the way Eastern NC is structured, and it's actually hard to do unless you've spent a lot of time there. Eastern NC as a region is actually considered one giant community. When someone says where they're from in Eastern NC whether it's Wilson/Tarboro/Farmville/Greenville/Kinston, whatever, it's almost like saying what neighborhood you're from in Charlotte. I may own a home in Ballantyne, but I'm from Charlotte. Comparatively, someone may live in Wilson but they are from Eastern North Carolina. There's a very sizeable fanbase there.


I like to joke around and sh*t talk just as much as the next guy, but I prefer to actually have legitimate discussions.

#3005437 Shane Carden - Heisman hopeful ESPNU interview

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 08 October 2014 - 11:24 AM

Of all the fans in the state you're calling ECU fans unloyal? Here when theyre good, gone when they're bad? And you're using the number of threads in huddle's college football forum as your sample size of that? Are you insane?

That's the most ignorant things I've ever heard.

Someone enlighten this young one. People find ECU fans borderline obnoxious they are so rabid. We've supported this team through some tough times in football, baseball, and yes even basketball. The last thing I'd describe an ECU fan as is fair weather my friend.

#3004648 Shane Carden - Heisman hopeful ESPNU interview

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 07 October 2014 - 04:07 PM

I'll watch every UNC football, basketball, baseball game etc... that's more than I can say for you and your fellow ECU fans.

How many people show up to your bball games... 4K?


UNC beat us by 6 in the Dean Dome last time we played....


ECU's ball team is always well coached and disciplined, very well respected staff. And this year we've got solid size with more experience, and FSU transfer PG Terry Whisnant running the show. It's going to be a much better team. ECU's teams have been talented for like 3 years in a row now, their achilles has been a ton of season ending injuries which showcases our lack of depth.


Whisnant, Gillmette, and Lance Tejada are ACC caliber players, but as a whole this team has work to do. We're playing in a very good bball conference now, so my expectations are average. This isn't, however, a bad team. It hasn't been in a couple years. Players are gaining experience, and recruits are getting better.


We are a bit deeper this year, and we are again talented. I expect another entertaining game in December. Always a fun litmus test of where ECU is as a program.

#3004645 The guys at Black and Blue Review are as horrified by this NFLN piece as I am

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 07 October 2014 - 04:02 PM

Yeah but I don't ever recall another player being demonized like they do Cam. Please remind me if I am wrong.


I would say the only one comparable is Tony Romo. As terrific as he's played his entire career with nothing around him.

#3004105 The guys at Black and Blue Review are as horrified by this NFLN piece as I am

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 07 October 2014 - 10:20 AM

"He was supposed to represent the transformation of the position"




He was supposed to bust. He was supposed to be terrible. He couldn't throw, he couldn't go through his reads. He was going to be worse than The Golden Calf of Bristol. He wasn't even supposed to be a 1st round pick.


He WAS NOT supposed to be anyone's savior. He set his own expectations with his play, and that's why this has all happened.


He's gotten the raw end of the bargain from day 1 with the media and it's completely ridiculous that 4 years later a piece like this is still being made. First he would never be good, then he would never be as good as his first 2 games. It's complete bullsh*t.


Consistent winning WILL cure this, but this season will take a lot of fighting adversity to consistently win. I think it's possible, but it'll be tough.

#3003401 Shane Carden - Heisman hopeful ESPNU interview

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 06 October 2014 - 07:57 PM

Same idiot trolls that told me during the summer that UNC's football team was "loaded" and "stacked" this year.


What a disgrace

#3003376 Shane Carden - Heisman hopeful ESPNU interview

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 06 October 2014 - 07:48 PM

God you guys are such sore losers it's so hysterically sad.


He is a Heisman Hopeful. He's on the Heisman Hopeful list released by the Heisman Trophy website. You know, the people that decide who wins the Heisman. Does that argument hold some to a lot of water? http://heisman.com/r...path=aspirants_


Of course he isn't going to win the damn trophy who ever said he was going to?


You're just mad that you haven't had a player match the caliber of Shane Carden ever play quarterback in the history of the school. And you're also mad that you f*cking lost 70-41. I mean dear god what a sad day to be a Caro-whine-a Tar Hole

#2994881 Fedora

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 02 October 2014 - 06:30 PM

If Lincoln Riley wanted to be the coordinator at UNC, he would be there right now and would have at the very least accepted the interview UNC offered him (which he declined)

#2984240 Has the team quit on the coaching staff/organization because of the Hardy sit...

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 28 September 2014 - 02:52 PM

No, they just lost the reason they don't have to blitz and still get an elite pass rush. That's why they don't look quite as good

#2974309 UNC @ ECU

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 22 September 2014 - 11:40 PM

I was saying I already commented if you want to reference that you can. My concern was your making up stuff about UNC players , Eric Highsmith in particular.That's what you were saying. if you want to talk about the game we can do that as it was not a surprise as SDSU abused us the same way we just got lucky to come out with the win. Against ECU we only had trouble with 2 plays.The run and the pass, besides that we were neck and neck. People @ UNC complained we had a week off to prepare but the reality is we had a year to prepare and didn't do it. they did the same thing to us last year we just had a slightly better D but the scheme in both games was crap. so what else do you want to know. This was inevitable and I saw it coming a mile away. Again the SDSU game showed we had not fixed the D issues.



#2972574 Something the Huddle always forgets...

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 22 September 2014 - 10:09 AM

Losses are necessary. This is the highest level of the sport in the world, every team is capable of beating every team. A blowout in week 3 is something that this team can benefit from tremendously in Week 13.


Looking at film from a day like this will prevent all sorts of mistakes for the future because we DO have a great coaching staff. I have big time confidence in the mistakes that RR, McDermott, Proehl, Jim Skipper, Ken Dorsey, Eric Washington, and others will be able to correct because of this game.

#2963954 UNC @ ECU

Posted by PiratePanther189 on 19 September 2014 - 12:20 AM

This game will be close. And it's going to be two talented football teams giving it their all. No doubt about that at all.


I predict a 6 point game. I think this one is going to be a tough one to watch for the fans of both sides, but those that don't cheer for the Pirates or the Heels are really, really going to enjoy it.

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