You ever think that I may purposefully keep my response/opinion down to a few simple succinct words to describe the situation and allow others to discuss/expand on the topic?
You dont even have to give an opinion, all you have to do is quote a few lines from the article you link to give some context. Its really not that hard, almost everyone here does it. I dont want to click some random link you post because I dont want to give every idiotic windbag with an opinion on the internet to get ad revenue from me viewing his site/ article
You honestly do post some interesting links, but I cant tell from a URL. Which is why I typically dont even view a topic you start until it has some responses
You don't pay it...insurance companies pay it and/or hospitals are writing it off.
This is akin to forcing insurance companies offering term life insurance at the same rate to people regardless of health history.
Of course an expanded pool of subscribers is required to offset the risks, but this is why government single payer is the eventual goal and what we've been sold is a joke. The only way that business model can stand is through force and no concern about lack of revenue.
So you think insurance companies and hospitals just magically have enough extra money to cover this?
No, we pay higher premiums and hospitals are outrageously expensive exactly because we are paying for it, albeit indirectly
And we should have single payer, but obamacare is unfortunately not it
So if everyone on this board got 2800 a month, promised income, you would go out and start making ways to work?
Yeah...Judging from many of your posts I'm going to find that hard to believe.
Sure a strong % of people would likely try and make new things, better society with innovation, education, discovery and such. My fear that prevents me from such a belief is that a large enough % would simply kick back and play some Xbox and complain about all the noise the people mowing the grass are making.
Sometimes life isnt fair. Maybe instead of wasting so much time and money forcing lazy assholes to work, we should just give them the bare minimum to live (which would obviously be less than $2800 in most places in the US), and let the rest of us get on with our lives. Doing this would mean massive savings in government bureaucracy, you wouldnt need to worry about approving unemployment claims, disability, medicare, social security, welfare, etc.
Such a system would also make it much easier to pursue your true interests. You'd be able to take an internship in a new field to gain experience without worrying about putting food on the table or living on the street. Businesses wouldnt have to worry about a minimum wage, and anyone could invest their time and money into new ventures without risking their future and the future of their kids.
Its time to start thinking about what society will look like in the future rather than trying to perfect the society of the past. In the early 19th century something like 70% of people in the US lived and worked on the farm, but today all our agricultural production can be done by 1% of the population (and at a fraction of the cost). We arent going back there.
Maybe we arent at the point in time where any of this will work, but its not like automation has finished replacing people in the workforce. Efficiency has made millions of jobs redundant, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Its time to start adapting to the future rather than reacting to it, and unfortunately the US government as a whole seems to be doing a rather terrible job of it.
I like how people dismiss ideas as impossible when they dont fit with their personal ideologies. I remember a few people had similar dismissive reactions to the fair tax thing, but it wasnt the same people. Also, I think the fair tax had a similar idea (bare minimum provided to every citizen)
It very well may not work in the US, but has anything similar been tried?
I mean, if you require any change in national policy to meet such a high standard, then you literally will never change the system we have right now, because no other country is a perfect analog for the US
I really get a kick of all the complaining about the Republicans being taken hostage by a minority of tea party candidates that are simply pushing for more fiscal restraint. Yet say nothing that the democrat party has been completely taken over by liberals who's sole intent it seems is to increase entitlement spending/enrollments.
So the democratic party pushed through the healthcare plan championed by '90s republicans, and that means the party has been "completely taken over by liberals"
My god, the hoops you jump through to justify your party's bullshit is simply astonishing
The problem is not that our state government is trying to stop scientists from doing their jobs, its that they are making a concerted effort to remove good science from the political decision making process