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#3019290 ESPN Article on the ankle twisting/Olsen Getting Real

Posted by rayzor on 13 October 2014 - 03:49 PM

I had no idea he had a history of dirty plays. He needs to be taught a serious lesson.

he was in serious discussions as a first or second round draft pick when he came out, but tes didn't like his tendency to play dirty and rack up personal foul penalties. many thought it wouldn't matter because he's just so talented and that's all that mattered. apparently nobody in the league thought his dirty play was worth a draft pick, regardless of how talented he is, and he went undrafted. the fact that the bengals picked him up was no surprise to anyone because the browns (the family that owns them, not the team from cleveland) prefers headcases.

now he's proven to be as talented as people thought, but he's also proven to be as much of a penalty and fine magnet as everyone thohgt as well. i'm thinking that with this game he took it just a bit too far and he's getting the attention for it that refs and the league are going to start taking more notice and his extra cirricular activites on the field are going to start costing the bengals because not only will he probably be drawing more penalties from refs wanting to clamp down on his dirty play, but he'll also start drawing suspensions and the bengals will have to adjust to being without one of their most talented players on defense because he refuses to control himself.

#3018297 3 frame look at Burfict ankle twist

Posted by rayzor on 13 October 2014 - 08:23 AM

I am very serious, watch the action again, not a picture.
He is not twisting his ankhle he is just trying to prevent Olsen from reaching the end zone.

lol no he wasn't. olsen was already well in the end zone and on the ground and burfict then grabbed his foot and started pulling back his foot and twisting his ankle. i don't know if you think he was trying to pull olsen out of the end zone, but it doesn't really work like that. once you cross the line, you're in. burfict knew where he was and where olsen was. he knew oksen had scored, and he was trying to inflict injury. if everyone else is seeing it from both the replay and the pictures (and by everyone, that includes those outside ofhere and those who aren't panther fans) and you can't, you have to know that maybe it's just you who is wrong and not seeing it correctly.

#3017411 Culling Necessary on the Huddle

Posted by rayzor on 12 October 2014 - 07:41 PM

How exactly do u have a negative number of posts?


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#3017301 Culling Necessary on the Huddle

Posted by rayzor on 12 October 2014 - 07:22 PM

I agree.

Ban anyone under 20,000 posts.





#3010736 Nicks to Panthers revisited

Posted by rayzor on 11 October 2014 - 08:25 PM

re: the topic....nicks would be the third option behind KB and olsen. maybe fourth behind mr. reliable cotchery.


so he's not far off from where he is now.

#3010734 Nicks to Panthers revisited

Posted by rayzor on 11 October 2014 - 08:23 PM

Ill take him, he will do better with cam then hes doing with luck! As a unc alum and fan I would love him on this team, hes underrrated



we should of took him in the 2nd


just thought this was funny.

#3007438 ESPN Picks - Bengals vs Panthers

Posted by rayzor on 09 October 2014 - 01:48 PM

everyone needs an upset pick and we just happened to be golic's.

honestly i'm surprised anyone picked us and i don't blame anyone for not picking us. i don't see us doing so well against afc and 3-4 teams the rest of the year.

#3007359 J.J. Watt or Luke Kuechly

Posted by rayzor on 09 October 2014 - 01:06 PM

Watt is a game changer, he's an athletic freak and probably the best defensive player in the league right now.


Having said that, I will take Luke and I have a non homer reason as to why.



With Watt, if you have an average to above average defense on the field with him, there is only so much he can do playing from one side of the field.  Teams can game plan away from him.


With Luke, if you have an average to above average defense on the field with him, he's in the middle and can get all over everywhere (like he does) from rushing the passer, picking up screens, covering guys in the middle and just being an all-around badass. 


So what I'm saying is I'd rather have an elite MLB than an elite DE if I had to make that choice.


pretty much this. thanks for making it unnecessary for me to write 10 times as much and say the same thing. the world is a happier place because of it.

#3007352 De'Andre Presley

Posted by rayzor on 09 October 2014 - 01:04 PM

not sure what the point would be.


he has a very specific skill set and would only be used in packages that i don't think shula would know how to utilize.


we run up the middle and throw the ball and take a lot of time to do it. that's what we do.



#3006016 practice tweets

Posted by rayzor on 08 October 2014 - 03:37 PM

I'm amazed that he keeps asking.

i'm not. it's pretty much what should be expected fromnperson by now.
he's always that guy asking that question a hundred times thinking that a little rephrasing or just his persistancy will result in getting that specific answer he wants.

he's oblivious and obsessive as a reporter which makes him not only ineffective, but annoying as a journalist.

#3005887 Does Hardy come back after 6 games?

Posted by rayzor on 08 October 2014 - 02:39 PM

The panthers are worth a billion dollars. The nfl is worth billions of dollars. Sponsors won't pull regardless. To much money for them at stake and they know if they drop there will be a line forming from our companies to take their place not one second after it happens. Which brings it back to football and wins. Hardy helps us win.

sponsors can and will pull their support if their bottom line is effected by what one player does or if they feel they don't want to be associated with an organization that is giving that much money to someone who has been found guilty of domestic assault...which is pretty much what the public perception of hardy is and nobody whose money is on the line wants to risk making sponsors unhappy and if we start losing spnsors, the financial value of sponsorships decreases. you can't know that they would be able to continue financially without missing a beat. you can't make everyone happy, but you're damned as an organization if you start losing sponsors/financial support because that stuff can spread like cancer. one drops and others may start to follow suit and while you may have others willing to be sponsors, they may not be willing to pay as much as the ones before them did. in fact i can pretty much guarantee you that point because sponsorships typically go to the highest bidder. one drops out and then you have to settle for the one with the second or third best bid, but now they have a bargaining ship they didn't previously have, which is the absence of someone willing to outbid them. even for sponsorships that aren't bidded on, the value diminshes with less interest or dropped support.

we can and probably would keep going around in circles and i'm too tired to keep it going, but my point would remain this: agree with it or not....like it or not...there is likely a lot more factoring into their decision what to do with hardy than "does hardy help win games".

and to your point about hardy helping win games, he absolutely does, but this past week we found that our defense can adjust to life without him by beating/dominating a pretty stinking good offense. if we can continue to do that, then that in itself brings into question whether or not he's worth the $10mil a year we would likely be signing him to and before you start debating that same argument in regards to say cam or kuechly, i would say that hardy is absolutely not as crucial to this team as either one of those two guys are. but then you add in the drama that is apparently surrounding hardy and it makes the decision to give him that much money that much harder.

i understand where you are coming from, but i also understand that there is more to factor into it than just "does hardy help us win?".

#3005826 AJ Green leaves practice on cart

Posted by rayzor on 08 October 2014 - 02:07 PM

'Full strength' is a pretty relative term by this time of year.

Anytime a great player is replaced by one who isn't as good, you absolutely take advantage of it. That's the game.

But even with that in mind, I can't feel anything positive about someone being hurt. I'd rather that not happen, regardless of whether it helps us win a game or not.

It's going to happen on both sides, but I'm never happy when it does.

i don't like people getting hurt, but i'll be happy to take the win regardless of how it takes place because in the end, that is what matters...at least to me as a fan anyway and thats probably true with most players and coaches. at the end of the season they won't be looking back and regreting wins or want to give any back because they don't feel like they deserved it since __________ was injured. a win is a win is a win.

#3005783 AJ Green leaves practice on cart

Posted by rayzor on 08 October 2014 - 01:43 PM

That sucks I'm pulling for him to be ready for our game. Don't like seeing any guys go down and would rather play them at full strength.

i would rather play them at full strength when we can play them at full strength...which we aren't.

also, teams have cliver the years taken advantage of our loss of key players due to injury and not thought twice about the win that may have come for them in part because of that. all that matters is the win regardless of of who is or isn't on the field. anything that helps us get that win i'm not going to be upset about.

#3005711 For those of you interested in supporting the huddle....

Posted by rayzor on 08 October 2014 - 01:15 PM

Yes. I was more trying to convey the message of following that line of what is free content and what isn't free content. What was discussed when it was being implemented and staying true to it.

That did cross my mind. It's hard to tell since I obviously don't know what is in any of them. And it is completely understandable. This time here is probably a bad example then. The issue is a concern though to me at least. If it would change to all carolinahuddle.com news being paid only I understand the reasoning behind it and I wish him success in his career choice.

The amount to join up is very reasonable. If my family's money situation was better, I would join up. While it's a small amount, the small amounts here and there add up when you consider all your bills together.

I tried to put my concern in a understanding of Mr Igo's right and need to make money off of the excellent information he already gives us. It's completely understandable and I don't fault him for doing it. Hopefully it read that way.

i think/know jeremy's decision to make part of the forum a pay-for-use section wasn't an easy one. either just before i came around in 2005 or just after there was a paid membership that gave you access to some...well, i'll just say interesting things that sponsors wouldn't appreciate. he decided, tho, just to make this site free for everyone and support the upkeep of the site by using pay-per-click/action ads and that was probably enough (though so many browswers having ad block features made it a bit more challenging).

then, as i mentioned earlier in this thread, jeremy was presented with a very lucrative offer to buy this forum. the downside was that things would be changing a lot, and not in good ways. the company that was interested in buying it spent more on meeting with jeremy and get him to sell than most fan forums are worth. and, like i said, he turned it down because he was more interested in protecting the integrity of this site...which is basically his baby) than the load of money he could make from selling it. with that in mind, he has a family that he also has to support and it's hard to justify passing up so much money and also freeing up a lot of your time for what was essentially a glorified hobby.

to justify his decision and do right by his family, he had to try and find ways to monetize this site more than it had been and turn it into more of a business. one option to do that was to do what he did and create a way for people to, of their own choosing, pay for use of this site. to give them an incentive to do it and thank them for helping support the huddle, he felt it would be an adequate thanks to provide them with a little something special. i will tell you that even though there is a decent number of allpro members and that number is growing, he's not going to get rich from it. at least not from the number of members right now. what it is doing, though, is helping him travel to games outside charlotte and provide us with a lot more cool content that even non-allpro members can see.

i totally understand your financial situation. mine has changed a lot in the past year as well in ways that make me rethink how i spend even a dollar here and a dollar there. i won't say that you aren't missing much by not being a member, but i will also say that because there are people willing to pay $5/month for some extra goodies, you are getting more goodies here than you would have without them. if you haven't noticed there's been a significant upgrade in the quality of content in the main forum this year and that is because the things that he is doing to support the site financially is allowing him to have that freedom of access and it is also incentive for him to provide more.

whether or not you realize it, you are benefitting from the all-pro membership. you may not have access to everything, but you definitely have access to more than you had before it's creation.

#3005503 For those of you interested in supporting the huddle....

Posted by rayzor on 08 October 2014 - 11:53 AM

the injury update in the all-pro section has to do with one player and is more just something that he heard rather than anything official which is why he chose to not put it out there for the general public, and this isn't the first time he's shared something like that. before the allpro section he used to share certain things with just the mods in the mod forum, but those little inside tidbits he hears he now shares with those as part of the allpro forum.

i'm not saying that this is one of these moments, but because of his relationship with the panthers, just like most beat reporters, if you want to continue to have pretty free access to the team, certain things you will be asked to keep to yourself or at least not broadcast to the general public and that has more to do with keeping a strategic advantage from opponents rather than just trying to keep the public in the dark.

if it was something more substantiated, then it probably would have been shared in here. if you want an inside scoop on things that may be going on with the team that he hears from sources within the team that aren't meant for the mass public, then join up.

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