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#1842811 what if we kept Otah.....here me out.....

Posted by rayzor on 01 August 2012 - 01:07 PM

I came in here thinking that you might have thought of a way to use Otah in certain schemes, or to motivate him. Instead, I found typographical diarrhea and a lame attempt at humor.


i think there was more effort put into this thread than otah put into his career.

that's not praising the OP and everyone who contributed to this thread of poo, btw.

#1842805 quick norman up date...

Posted by rayzor on 01 August 2012 - 01:03 PM

I've never been fast enough to pull a hammy.

i think you just have to move faster than you're supposed to. the bar might not be that high. i know it's not for me. racing my four year old daughter is just enough to do it.

#1842749 what if we kept Otah.....here me out.....

Posted by rayzor on 01 August 2012 - 12:06 PM

easy their not allot of people are good at the grammer they plane old just suck with they're stupid ways and dumb talking but can't understand why other don't be liking what there saying, no what Im sayn

ys. i knw xctly wht yu r syng.

#1842730 One thing you need to understand RE: Camp

Posted by rayzor on 01 August 2012 - 11:52 AM

I think you have to separate the guys who aren't going 100% and may not even do so in the preseason because they are established veterans like Gross and Kalil versus guys who are fighting tooth and nail for a roster spot. Guys who may not even make it through the preseason can't wait until the season starts to start showing their ability.

i think there is a justifiable double standard there. the established vets don't have to prove really anything. all they have to do is learn the playbook and show they get it. newer guys fighting for a spot have to show that they understand the playbook and play as mistake free as possible. even at that, tho, i believe that the more important thing is just showing that they understand and can take what they learn in the classroom to the field. the guys who get it may not look as dynamic as some that aren't grasping the playbook, but they will probably be the guys that get the roster spot and the guys that we scratch our head at after watching them and just can't figure out how they got a spot while taye biddle didn't.

#1842698 pff rb age of decline

Posted by rayzor on 01 August 2012 - 11:38 AM

How that money is spent impacts how the team you pull for can be built.

Forte is a good, we should of signed him. Not my money. He is worth good money.

doesn't really matter, tho, if the team you pull for doesn't build like that.

if they didn't pay williams all that money do you honestly think they would have done much more than they did in FA? i think we all know the answer is probably "no".

if the team looks to be severely handicapped by what they did contractually with williams (and what i assume they will be doing with stewart) then i'll gripe, but right now i don't see that as being the case. i think the panthers as-is personnel-wise have the talent to win a ring. i don't see them being significantly held back by that contract nor do i believe they will be in giving stewart the contract he most likely will be getting.

#1842652 what if we kept Otah.....here me out.....

Posted by rayzor on 01 August 2012 - 11:21 AM

it aint the huddle without crappy grammer dude

it's grammar.

#1842640 Anderson phrases the return of Ron Edwards

Posted by rayzor on 01 August 2012 - 11:12 AM

the bar isn't really high here.

he pretty much has to accomplish 2 things...
1) don't suck
2) don't get hurt

if he can do that then the defense will be a lot better.

#1842126 Thomas Davis should be used elsewhere

Posted by rayzor on 31 July 2012 - 09:10 PM

i think there actually has been some discussion about him playing some special teams, though i doubt it's very much. as i've said before, tho, i don't expect him to be on the field for more than 20-25 snaps per game. one or two downs a series is about it and that's all it should be...just situationally. keeps his legs fresher and lessens exposure to injury.

also, we've added enough ST studs this offseason who are solid in coverage and we also shouldn't have half of the ST guys we depend on have to quit playing on STs because they are getting promoted to starter b/c of injury to another guy. davis just won't be all that needed on STs.

#1842111 Putting our Backfield in Perspective (stats included)

Posted by rayzor on 31 July 2012 - 09:04 PM

this isn't cleveland's offense. this isn't san diego's offense. it's based on it, but it's also based on what other teams have done with cam. this won't be a passing offense. it will be a balanced offense. that's what it's geared for. it's built around the strength of this team, which is cam's arm and the run game.

looking at it, maybe we will throw the ball a little more than last year. i don't think the separation between the number of carries and the number of passing attempts will be that great. maybe as much as 50 attempts, but not much more than that. i don't see us throwing much more than 550 times nor do i think we'll need to.

yes, it does need to be in newton's hands the most, but he's the QB. he doesn't need to have the lions share of rushing attempts nor should he. it's just not necessary for that to happen for us to still be among the best in the league. the threat of him running always needs to be there to keep defenses honest and to open things up for the other guys, but he doesn't need to keep doing it over and over for that threat to be there.

we'll be running a lot more option than last year and for it to be effective, to make newton more effective, that ball has to get into other carriers hands with frequency. defenses are going to have a spy on newton as it is. if newton is keeping the ball anywhere close to the majority of the time then the safe bet is always to follow newton. the more we use the other ball carriers, the more dangerous and effective newton becomes each time he does keep the ball.

#1842065 Putting our Backfield in Perspective (stats included)

Posted by rayzor on 31 July 2012 - 08:31 PM

i'm expecting the offense to stay on the field longer.

i'm expecting us to throw the ball slightly less than last year, just more efficiently. but i'm also anticipating us running the ball a bit more than we did last year. i think we can pull off about 500 passing attempts (compared to 519 last year) and about 500 rushes (compared to 445 last year). those 500 rushes, aside from the few end arounds and other assorted "carries" will pretty much be spread out between williams, stewart, newton and tolbert. i'm not going to guess about the distribution between the guys except that williams will probably get the most then stewart, then newton and then tolbert. we got 5.4 yards per carry last year and i think we can actually increase that a little up to an even 5.5 ypc. if that is the case then that gets us to 2750 yards on the season which, given the talent we have, is pretty reasonable even if it would be better than any team last year.

as far as TDs...we led the league with 26 rushing TDs last year and i think we can do better than that. 30 rushing TDs is not at all unreasonable divided among those 4 ball carriers.

like i said i'm also expecting the passing game to be more efficient and that we'll see less INTs and a few more TDs thrown...maybe around 25 or as high as 30 (though that's probably on the high side of things). i can seriously see us pushing 60 offensive TDs next year. as green and ill-prepared as we were last year we scored 47 offensive TDs and i think with a year under their belts and a full offseason to prepare there's little reason to think they couldn't best that number by 5+ TDs.

i think there is a huge benefit to having the run game that we have in addition to the killer passing game that is going to be growing with cam. it makes this offense essentially unstoppable. defenses try to shut down the passing game and it only unleashes hell on the ground. if they try and contain the running game and they've invited a cam newton led blitzkrieg. who wouldn't want that? who wouldn't hate trying to stop that?

while the league is trying to copy what the patriots and Saints* have been doing, we are going to be taking that to another level and making something new that in the future other teams will be trying to duplicate.

screw trying to copy what other teams do. create something that other teams will want to do.

#1841821 Kuechly in Coverage

Posted by rayzor on 31 July 2012 - 04:27 PM

i saw someone in here say they expected keuchly to be second in in sacks this year, but i'm not sure why you'd want to take him out of coverage. i'm sure he'll be a part of more blitzing and rushing the passer than he was in college, but i think they'll probably tend to keep him in midfield to deal with what goes on there and free up other guys to cause mayhem in the backfield. he's pretty much the ultimate security valve. he makes it safe for the others to take part in stunts.

#1841672 Putting our Backfield in Perspective (stats included)

Posted by rayzor on 31 July 2012 - 02:10 PM

I don't think adding Williams, Stewart and Tolbert's stats together = what we can do with our RBs.

Tolbert's stats essentially overlap what those guys did last year.

I think we continue taking steps in the right direction....taking advantage of the rules favoring the pass as Cam grows....not trying to justify ways to play in the past.

it's not playing in the past.

it's both taking advantage of the rules favoring the pass as cam grows and taking advantage of the strength we have in the run game.

everyone is jumping on the pass heavy front but essentially abandoning the run game. aaron rodgers even said they just don't need one. regardless of whatever trend is going on, we need to be as balanced as possible because at one point defenses are going to catch up to what the offensive culture is trending towards, but in doing that they pretty much become as unbalanced as most of the offenses in the league.

the team that is going to consistently rise above the rest is the one that isn't joining just a trend, but staying ahead of it or, better yet, starting a new one. if this team is successful with a balanced run game and passing game we are going to see more teams try and copy that template, and not just with trying to get a QB like cam, but a running attack like ours that is every bit as dangerous as the passing game.

i can think of no better way to spread defenses out than with an air game like ours and a ground game like ours.

#1841605 7-31 camp thread ....

Posted by rayzor on 31 July 2012 - 12:52 PM

Great post g5, that's what I'm chalking it up to as well.

have to also take into consideration the rain today. i imagine it would be more of a factor in TC than reg. season because of all the learning and implementing of the playbook.

#1841596 Otah trade officially voided (confirmed)

Posted by rayzor on 31 July 2012 - 12:45 PM

So long as we don't end up cutting Otah or anything I'm actually ok with it being voided. I just hope that this regime hasn't completely soured on Otah and if he earns it can still see time. Quality depth if he can ever get his body right on the line.

if his head and heart aren't in it 100% then i most certainly think he should be cut and from the sound of it that is definitely the case.

i don't care how quality depth he can be. half-assing it can't be tolerated (and half-assed would probably be an upgrade from where he's been the last couple years).

#1841534 Carolina Panthers 2012 Prediction

Posted by rayzor on 31 July 2012 - 11:54 AM

predicting injury is bad form, imo. esp. continually bringing it back up.

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