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Old 11-02-2009, 12:42 PM   #21
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UK basketball didn't start winning until Rupp got there. It was the 40s before we were winning regularly. In that sense, you guys got a huge head start on us. Back in the 1900s and 1910s, teams played 10-20 games a year (at least we did) and half of them were against YMCAs. So it always cracks me up when UNC fans say UK got all of its wins in the Stone Age. UK actually started becoming a powerhouse AFTER UNC did. Well after.

And for the walking brainstem who said SEC basketball sucks....

2006 Florida
2005 Florida
1998 Kentucky
1996 Kentucky
1994 Arkansas

Five titles in the last 15 years. Yeah, SEC basketball sucks. Moron.
Okay, so lets not count the years we did bad either. Let's drop the 8-20 year. That's stupid. Shush. As for UK becoming a powerhouse after UNC, We have 4 of our 6 titles since 1980. UK has 2. UK has 5 before that time frame.

Yeah SEC basketball does suck compared to the ACC. Okay since 1990 the SEC has 5 and the ACC has 7 national titles. Also conference strength is not solely based on national titles. Duke year in year out is better competition than anybody in the SEC. As is WF in most years. As is NCSU, as is every team in the ACC. Top to bottom since the ACC's existence has been FAR superior in every aspect of basketball better than the SEC.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:02 PM   #22
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Since the inception of the ACC the ACC has 11 national titles and the SEC has 7. 4 by Kentucky (further proving that by and large that the SEC has been a one horse race for the majority of the time)

Just because other teams have it all come together one year does not a conference make. Teams consistently being good makes a conference. You find that in the ACC. SEC? Not so much.
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i could care less that kentucky got wall. the heels will just keep on rolling. they always do.
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Since the inception of the ACC the ACC has 11 national titles and the SEC has 7. 4 by Kentucky (further proving that by and large that the SEC has been a one horse race for the majority of the time)

Just because other teams have it all come together one year does not a conference make. Teams consistently being good makes a conference. You find that in the ACC. SEC? Not so much.
Since the early 80s, the following SEC teams have made the Final Four...Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas, LSU, Georgia, and Mississippi State. Alabama, Tennessee and Auburn have all made the Elite Eight. All three lost to the eventual national champ when they did.

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Since the early 80s, the following SEC teams have made the Final Four...Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas, LSU, Georgia, and Mississippi State. Alabama, Tennessee and Auburn have all made the Elite Eight. All three lost to the eventual national champ when they did.

Keep trying.
Okay? 8 of 12 ACC schools have made the final four. ACC>SEC and it's not even close. The level of competition is far greater. To argue this is absurd.
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Okay? 8 of 12 ACC schools have made the final four. ACC>SEC and it's not even close. The level of competition is far greater. To argue this is absurd.
There is a much bigger disparity between the two leagues in football than there is in basketball. If Duke and UNC didn't have Vitale and Packer recruiting for them every time they went on the air, the SEC would probably have passed you in basketball by now.
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There is a much bigger disparity between the two leagues in football than there is in basketball. If Duke and UNC didn't have Vitale and Packer recruiting for them every time they went on the air, the SEC would probably have passed you in basketball by now.
I would say definitely with the lax standards with regard to academics and the accepted way that cheating is expected, you are probably right.
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I would say definitely with the lax standards with regard to academics and the accepted way that cheating is expected, you are probably right.
Dean Smith was once put on probation. Adolph Rupp or Rick Pitino? Not.
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I love how this debate inevitably degrades into an ACC is better than SEC debate because the numbers don't support the origin of the debate for the Heels.
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I love how this debate inevitably degrades into an ACC is better than SEC debate because the numbers don't support the origin of the debate for the Heels.
Ummmm, not sure what "numbers" your referring to since the "origin" of this debate was why Roy didn't attempt to recruit John Wall. Please explain.

And yes the ACC is far better than the SEC and the Tar Heels are the current standard in college basketball, Period.
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