Peppers/Cassel Trade Talks being whispered.

[OneBadassCat]

Cassel is going to suck ass. Vince Wilfork maybe but not Casserole.

[wiggy2332]

Do people not remember that Jake was a backup? He could have been a one hit wonder once he got here to Carolina. Jake is not gonna get us to the promised land. I've seen that ever since 2003. It's time to part ways and find another ship to ride.

[Fox007]

Originally Posted by monstercat

Tom Brady threw the ball to a double and triple covered Randy Moss quite often in 07.

Hell, if you were the Panthers QB, who would you be throwing it to most of the time?

It's amazing how fans complain about Jake throwing the ball to his best WR, when analysts like Steve Young are wondering why he don't throw it to Smitty even more. Jake can't win no matter what he does.

Huh?

If you actually paid attention to what Young said, you would notice that he said its the way in which Smith gets the ball that bothers him.

In other words instead of the luck, hail mary, run your WR straight out of bounds throws, Young said to get Smith the ball more in space, and lead him better so he can kill it with his YAC.

In more other words, short accurate throws, slants, ins and crossing routes.
Not hail mary, and deep outs, or those straight along the sideline bull shits.


In some more other words, you'd be crazy to think that a HOF QB doesn't know what he is talking about in this situation.
He even pointed out how Jake lead smith straight out of bounds on several throws, and pretty much did diss how Jake is totally mishandling this potential HOF WR.

[PeterGriffon]

Originally Posted by Fox007

Huh?

If you actually paid attention to what Young said, you would notice that he said its the way in which Smith gets the ball that bothers him.

In other words instead of the luck, hail mary, run your WR straight out of bounds throws, Young said to get Smith the ball more in space, and lead him better so he can kill it with his YAC.

In more other words, short accurate throws, slants, ins and crossing routes.
Not hail mary, and deep outs, or those straight along the sideline bull sh*ts.


In some more other words, you'd be crazy to think that a HOF QB doesn't know what he is talking about in this situation.
He even pointed out how Jake lead smith straight out of bounds on several throws, and pretty much did diss how Jake is totally mishandling this potential HOF WR.

Well put..

[monstercat]

Originally Posted by PeterGriffon

This is classic. Are we talking about a back yard football game? If so then yes. So you love Jakes style of play? And Steve young was saying Smith needs to GET the ball. Steve didnt say to throw a Hail Mary every play into triple coverage.

Well, if you're saying that's what Delhomme did on every play, then you're an idiot. He did that about 3-4 times in 16 games.

Bottom line...if I'm trading Peppers, it will be for draft picks, not an expensive QB that may or may not be any better than what we already have.

[PeterGriffon]

Originally Posted by monstercat

Well, if you're saying that's what Delhomme did on every play, then you're an idiot. He did that about 3-4 times in 16 games.

Bottom line...if I'm trading Peppers, it will be for draft picks, not an expensive QB that may or may not be any better than what we already have.

Ok, how many times did Delhomme hit smitty in stride. I bet less than 5 times all seaon. We agree on the trading cassel for peppers part. As far as Delhomme being our QB, not any chance. I want someone to have a fair chance at being QB. Not a shoe-in for Delhomme.

[methodtoll]

and 13 threads later... The argument continues... I will be so thankful when the fate of Cassel is learned so we can end this once and for all lol

[Mr. Scot]

What amazes me is that people who complain about Jake targeting Smith too much then turn around and tout Matt Cassel

Cassel targeted Wes Welker at a higher rate than Jake targeted Smith, and that was with his second option being Randy Moss

One of the reasons for that disparity is that Cassel isn't great at throwing deep passes. Now ask yourself, what is one of the favorite plays in the Panther offense?

(if you said the deep pass, you're correct)

Bottom line: Cassel isn't the right fit for this offense, and he sure as hell isn't worth Julius Peppers, even with a first rounder thrown in

As I've said before, the Patriots are going to sucker someone into taking Scott Mitchell II, but Lord knows I don't want it to be us.

[PeterGriffon]

Originally Posted by Mr. Scot

What amazes me is that people who complain about Jake targeting Smith too much then turn around and tout Matt Cassel

Cassel targeted Wes Welker at a higher rate than Jake targeted Smith, and that was with his second option being Randy Moss.

One of the reasons for that is that cassel isn't great at throwing deep passes. Now ask yourself, what is one of the favorite plays in the Panther offense?

(if you said the deep pass, you're correct)

Bottom line: Cassel isn't the right fit for this offense, and he sure as hell isn't worth Julius Peppers, even with a first rounder thrown in

As I've said before, the Patriots are going to sucker someone into taking Scott Mitchell II, but Lord knows I don't want it to be us.

Duh, because welker was open.

[Mintal]

Originally Posted by PeterGriffon

Duh, because welker was open.

Yeah, I'd stick with that...


Honestly, I don't have problem one replacing him, but with who? Cassel is not the option, IMO...