D-Will's 2009 production to drop?

ncbobcat · 07-03-2009, 10:26 AM

First off, please don't move this to the fantasy forum as the context of the thread is in actual REALITY production.

Fantasy owners have been leery of drafting DeAngelo as their #1 back because of numerous factors that you will see in the link below. A laundry list is provided as to why: history, schedule this year, schedule last year, splitting carries and injuries... and so on. The author of the peice states Williams TDs should drop off back to around 10 with a few hundred less yards.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fan...story/11905712

Now, FORGET the fantasy aspect and let's debate why or why not D-Will's season is or isn't going to drastically different from last season.

I feel he will drop off some...probably 14 total TDs and 1,400 yards. He had an amazing season last year and it will be difficult to yield the same resluts. Still, I think D-Will should post those numbers I projected and make his first Pro Bowl.

User Name · 07-03-2009, 11:05 AM

I'll be happy with anything over 1000 and double digit TD's, but I think he's capable of much more...

If he's still on the board I'll be drafting him, if I have the pick he'll go first overall. Of course I have to draft him he's been on my roster since he was a rookie, and he won me a big ole wad of cash last year.

panthers55 · 07-03-2009, 11:21 AM

Keep in mind that his production in the first half of the year was not that prolific. He came on like gangbusters in the second half. I think he could easily average 100 yards a game and 1 TD. That would put him at 1600 yards and 16 TDs. Another 400 yards and 4 TDs in the playoffs. Seems great to me.

Baschski · 07-03-2009, 11:25 AM

Yeah I can't see him averaging anything less than a touchdown a game. That would be a serious drop off. Realistically, it's hard to duplicate a season like that. But maybe he'll just continue on with the momentum of the 2nd half of last season and run for 2000 yards and 26 TD's this year, who knows?

I just hope his fumble number stays where it is.

holderoftruth · 07-03-2009, 11:31 AM

I think both Williams and Stewarts numbers will drop from last year, just my two cents

ncbobcat · 07-03-2009, 11:37 AM

I think Stewart will absorb about 4-6 of those rushing TDs. Honestly, I think Stewart will have more rushing TDs than Williams. Those goal line carries will go to #28 this year. Remember, DeAngelo had FOUR one-yard TDs in the Green Bay game last year.

Stewart will get more carries also, taking away about 200-300 yards from Williams. In all, I think the numbers as a whole doesn't change all that drastically, as I do with J-Stew just evening them out a bit more than last year.

As a tandem, I think 2,200 yards and 28 TDs will be the mark they set. Singularly, Williams doesn't reach last year's lofty stats.

panthers55 · 07-03-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ncbobcat

I think Stewart will absorb about 4-6 of those rushing TDs. Honestly, I think Stewart will have more rushing TDs than Williams. Those goal line carries will go to #28 this year. Remember, DeAngelo had FOUR one-yard TDs in the Green Bay game last year.

Stewart will get more carries also, taking away about 200-300 yards from Williams. In all, I think the numbers as a whole doesn't change all that drastically, as I do with J-Stew just evening them out a bit more than last year.

As a tandem, I think 2,200 yards and 28 TDs will be the mark they set. Singularly, Williams doesn't reach last year's lofty stats.

Before I give Stewart a bunch of those carries I would like to see him attend a practice or two. Hard to predict what he will do until he gets healthy. He seems to be starting off this year like last. Different issue but still a concern.

As long as we average around 27 points a game this year, I don't care how we get them.

ncbobcat · 07-03-2009, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panthers55

Before I give Stewart a bunch of those carries I would like to see him attend a practice or two. Hard to predict what he will do until he gets healthy. He seems to be starting off this year like last. Different issue but still a concern.

As long as we average around 27 points a game this year, I don't care how we get them.

Stewart will be fine, just resting for camp.

Agreed, as long as we put up more points than the opposition, I don't care if Jake is running the pig skin for TDs.

mountainpantherfan · 07-03-2009, 12:05 PM

If the following players all play 16 games each, then Williams' numbers will be UP from last year: Gross, Otah, Vincent, Wharton, Kalil. For every game one of those guys miss you can take 50 yards off of his total.

X-Clown · 07-03-2009, 12:11 PM

I think the TD numbers will fall, only because some of those are going to go to Smith (who got robbed of at least a couple from getting tackled at the 1 yard line), and to our other receivers. But I don't care who is scoring them, as long as it's somebody with a Panthers jersey.

07-03-2009, 11:21 AM	#3
panthers55 Surfin the negative waves Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,063 Pie Slices: 0 Given Pie 4 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 13	Keep in mind that his production in the first half of the year was not that prolific. He came on like gangbusters in the second half. I think he could easily average 100 yards a game and 1 TD. That would put him at 1600 yards and 16 TDs. Another 400 yards and 4 TDs in the playoffs. Seems great to me. __________________ Do not go quietly into the good night.

07-03-2009, 11:37 AM	#6
ncbobcat Beer Enthusiast Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 595 Pie Slices: 5 Given Pie 2 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 3	I think Stewart will absorb about 4-6 of those rushing TDs. Honestly, I think Stewart will have more rushing TDs than Williams. Those goal line carries will go to #28 this year. Remember, DeAngelo had FOUR one-yard TDs in the Green Bay game last year. Stewart will get more carries also, taking away about 200-300 yards from Williams. In all, I think the numbers as a whole doesn't change all that drastically, as I do with J-Stew just evening them out a bit more than last year. As a tandem, I think 2,200 yards and 28 TDs will be the mark they set. Singularly, Williams doesn't reach last year's lofty stats. __________________ Mum until the 2010 season.

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07-03-2009, 10:26 AM	#1
ncbobcat Beer Enthusiast Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 595 Pie Slices: 5 Given Pie 2 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 3	D-Will's 2009 production to drop? First off, please don't move this to the fantasy forum as the context of the thread is in actual REALITY production. Fantasy owners have been leery of drafting DeAngelo as their #1 back because of numerous factors that you will see in the link below. A laundry list is provided as to why: history, schedule this year, schedule last year, splitting carries and injuries... and so on. The author of the peice states Williams TDs should drop off back to around 10 with a few hundred less yards. http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fan...story/11905712 Now, FORGET the fantasy aspect and let's debate why or why not D-Will's season is or isn't going to drastically different from last season. I feel he will drop off some...probably 14 total TDs and 1,400 yards. He had an amazing season last year and it will be difficult to yield the same resluts. Still, I think D-Will should post those numbers I projected and make his first Pro Bowl. __________________ Mum until the 2010 season. Last edited by ncbobcat; 07-03-2009 at 10:33 AM.

07-03-2009, 11:05 AM	#2
User Name Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 39 Posts: 540 Pie Slices: 1 Given Pie 3 Times in 1 Post Rep Power: 3	I'll be happy with anything over 1000 and double digit TD's, but I think he's capable of much more... If he's still on the board I'll be drafting him, if I have the pick he'll go first overall. Of course I have to draft him he's been on my roster since he was a rookie, and he won me a big ole wad of cash last year.

07-03-2009, 11:25 AM	#4
Baschski Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 668 Pie Slices: 0 Given Pie 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 3	Yeah I can't see him averaging anything less than a touchdown a game. That would be a serious drop off. Realistically, it's hard to duplicate a season like that. But maybe he'll just continue on with the momentum of the 2nd half of last season and run for 2000 yards and 26 TD's this year, who knows? I just hope his fumble number stays where it is.

07-03-2009, 11:31 AM	#5
holderoftruth Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 296 Pie Slices: 0 Given Pie 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 2	I think both Williams and Stewarts numbers will drop from last year, just my two cents

07-03-2009, 12:05 PM	#9
mountainpantherfan In Honor of Sam Mills Join Date: Nov 2008 Age: 29 Posts: 1,325 Pie Slices: 1 Given Pie 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 4	If the following players all play 16 games each, then Williams' numbers will be UP from last year: Gross, Otah, Vincent, Wharton, Kalil. For every game one of those guys miss you can take 50 yards off of his total.

07-03-2009, 12:11 PM	#10
X-Clown Positive Polly Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,957 Pie Slices: 4 Given Pie 7 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 6	I think the TD numbers will fall, only because some of those are going to go to Smith (who got robbed of at least a couple from getting tackled at the 1 yard line), and to our other receivers. But I don't care who is scoring them, as long as it's somebody with a Panthers jersey.