Jump to content

Carolina Beer Forum
Luke Kuechly Photos
- - - - -

2 Key Things Regarding Kony Ealy

May 10 2014 04:47 AM Zod Carolina Panthers
I had a feeling the Panthers would be going defense with their second round pick, but I was thinking cornerback. Instead, the Panthers draft a defensive end which is probably one of the areas least in need, until you scratch the surface. How did the guy that many labeled as the second best defensive end in the draft fall to the Panthers in round 2? Why would the Panthers select him? Well, it is fairly simple.

It begins with "unnamed NFL scouts" who questioned his attitude. .

He thinks he's already an Aldon Smith-type player," a third scout said. "Classic con man. I don't trust this kid. He will be just a big pain in the (expletive). He's one of those 'let somebody else draft him' guys." From New Madrid, Mo. Added a fourth scout: "There's no outstanding traits about him other than he gives you some versatility in a bad (defensive-line) draft. He's a mess. Somebody's going to draft him because they need a defensive end and overdraft him."


Con man... Con man... seems like I have heard that somewhere before. Oh, that's right, Cam Newton was called a con artistbefore the NFL draft as well. Remind me how that turned out for the Panthers.

When it comes to such strong terminology against a player, it is obviously personal. And when scouts leave the business mindset and get personal, it is time to ignore them. Clearly Gettleman saw past the rhetoric.

But is defensive end a need for the Panthers? Obviously, David Gettleman thinks so. This pick could be the biggest indicator yet on how long term contract talks are going with Greg Hardy. If Hardy is no longer with the Panthers next season, which is looking more and more likely, Ealy could possibly step in with solid production.

In Carolina, Ealy has the best case scenario. He does not have to come in and be the number one guy. He doesn't even need to be the number two guy. He can come in and learn from one of the best defensive line coaches in the game, Eric Washington. Washington has proven he can get production out of just about any defensive marginal talent given to him. I would expect big returns from a physical talent like Kony Ealy.

A realistic projection this season for Ealy would be as a situational pass rusher and in the rotation to spell Hardy and Johnson. While I would have preferred a starter in round 2, I really cannot fault Gettleman for looking to the future here and taking not only the best player available, but also a position of need.

Add Comment

93 Comments

:: before

Who's to say whatever OT we draft would automatically be a starter?

I guess we'll find out when they're starting for another team. This is just not a QB friendly organization. Sucks for Cam.

I guess we'll find out when they're starting for another team. This is just not a QB friendly organization. Sucks for Cam.

 

 

I understand you think the draft is for need need need need need.

 

And that you think the OL as it is today will be the OL as it is on opening Sunday.

 

I think you're gonna be hugely surprised when its not.

I understand you think the draft is for need need need need need.

 

And that you think the OL as it is today will be the OL as it is on opening Sunday.

 

I think you're gonna be hugely surprised when its not.

You only think that because you're trying to be positive and avoid stress. The OL is not going to magically become good minus their starting LT(Gross). Neither will the WRs.

 

You only think that because you're trying to be positive and avoid stress. The OL is not going to magically become good minus their starting LT(Gross). Neither will the WRs.

 

 

I didn't say it would magically become good.

 

I did say it will be different than the static OL that you seem to think it will remain.  And, after it is different, it MIGHT be better.  Or not.

I thought we would lean toward need unless the by far and away BPA was at another position. I think this was one of those circumstances. While we don't have an immediate need at DE, we will have a need there after this season because we can't keep having our cap space hugely limited due to DE contracts. One of Hardy or CJ is gonna be gone after this season. Ealy is going to be groomed to take that guy's spot.

Who's to say whatever OT we draft would automatically be a starter?

have you seen who their competition is?

Didn't KB have this same issue? Scouts poo talking his personality? "He was a widdle sleepy babby and refused to work out for a scout because he's a piece of crap."

 

Do you think it's actually our scouts planting this poo to help these guys fall to us?

What would Haplo say if we end up cutting CJ next off-season and then use that cap savings to go out and sign a stud, NFL proven OT?

have you seen who their competition is?


One is a three year starter the team sewms to like a good bit.

have you seen who their competition is?


I really thought we were gonna go OT at #60. The staff keeps saying they're not overly concerned about OT and I thought they were bluffing, but maybe they're actually telling the truth. I sure hope they know something we dont or that they plan to sign some veteran stop gap help at some point.

I really thought we were gonna go OT at #60. The staff keeps saying they're not overly concerned about OT and I thought they were bluffing, but maybe they're actually telling the truth. I sure hope they know something we dont or that they plan to sign some veteran stop gap help at some point.

 

After I was a whiny ass last year and predicted 6-10 solely based on our O-line, I'm ready to just believe them this year.

I didn't say it would magically become good.

 

I did say it will be different than the static OL that you seem to think it will remain.  And, after it is different, it MIGHT be better.  Or not.

Be honest, wouldn't you be more excited going into the season with either Kouandjio, Moses or Robinson as our 2nd round pick? Right now we're going into the season with much less than when we ended it. Not excited at all.

Be honest, wouldn't you be more excited going into the season with either Kouandjio, Moses or Robinson as our 2nd round pick? Right now we're going into the season with much less than when we ended it. Not excited at all.

 

 

Yes, I would.

 

Just as I'm excited about adding quality depth to the DL.  And team flexibility in the future because we have to resign Cam and Luke to long-term contracts.

One is a three year starter the team sewms to like a good bit.

who has his competition been?

 

the bar isn't exactly set too high. they've been  bit spoiled by having gross and kalil on the line and wharton last year. they've also been spoiled by having cam under center who can handle pressure better than just about anyone in the game, but any lesser QB would have gotten hurt bad by this point and probably killed by the gross and wharton feree line we are getting ready to see.

 

and the fact that we dont have a lesser QB doesn't excuse our lack of effort to improve there.

Here's the thing about it.

DE may be a need NEXT year... but CB is a need THIS year.

when will people understand ya don't draft based on need.

WTF what about OT!!!

i understood that was too much talent to pass up, but how many teams passed on him twice?

 

i understand that it gives us leverage and options in dealing with DEs that take up WAAAAAAYYYY too much cap space, but we still have old and slow DBs and poo at OT on either side. i want to know what he plans on doing there that doesn't end up with JAG scrubs starting for us, esp. at OT that is kinda important.

 

How many teams passed on Hardy?

 

How many teams passed on CJ?

 

 

Our current starting DEs.

when will people understand ya don't draft based on need.

 

We needed a QB in 2011..... we drafted one with our first pick. lol

 

 

We needed a DT last year.... we drafted one last year.

 

 

This year we needed a  WR and well!!

 

 

Hey, if the guy plays good, then I'll be happy. I just like to see problems we have addressed.

I trust Rivera and company when it comes to defense and defensive players.   If they believe Ealy can help us..  then I fully trust them.

 

 

 

Yes, I would.

 

Just as I'm excited about adding quality depth to the DL.  And team flexibility in the future because we have to resign Cam and Luke to long-term contracts.

Thanks for being honest and not pretending you and Gettleman know some secret that no one else is privy to. For me, I don't think I can start rationalizing that pick until the season start. We just not in position yet to draft for depth, especially in the 2nd round.

Everybody thinks we are going to lose a DE next year. We would be wise not to. Ealy has a lot to learn about pass rushing and one year might not be enough time. Hardy broke out in year 3 after a disappointing second year. You saw an attitude change coincide with his success. We shouldn't give Ealy the job if he hasn't earned it yet.

We needed a QB in 2011..... we drafted one with our first pick. lol


We needed a DT last year.... we drafted one last year.


This year we needed a WR and well!!


Hey, if the guy plays good, then I'll be happy. I just like to see problems we have addressed.

those were also BPA.

I know ya don't understand. Nor do you care to.

when will people understand ya don't draft based on need.

people keep on spouting this poo, but they don't give any real answers for how we are going to address those needs, esp. OT.

 

company line: the answer is on the roster or gettleman knowz what he's doing, but what exactly is he doing to make a bad line better?

Do u even watch the panthers? Do u not notice how frequently we rotate guys on the dl? He may not be depthed as a starter but he will play plenty of snaps.

Its also possible hes actually better than cj and hardy and earns a starting spot. (As unlikely that sounds, the possibility exists).

Sent from my SPH-L710 using CarolinaHuddle mobile app

 

This is a great point to make. The reason our defense was so successful thru all 4 quarters is because our DL stays fresh. I also think that was the main reason we lost all those 4th quarter games about 2 years back. DL got tired and got gashed by the opponents run game. 

I see too many people here looking for instant gratification, as if anyone you draft in the 1st two rounds has to be an instant starter. Rookies who start are either very, very good and NFL ready, or you have no legit starter and you're desperate- or both. Drafting a player to be a starter down the road, after seasoning and/or the departure of the current starter, is not a dumb move. It's a smart one. Hopefully Ealy's reported attitude is a non-issue and he turns out to be a steal. Personally I feel better about his talent level than I do Benjamin's, but bottom line I'll keep trusting Gettleman as long as he has a high winning % on draft picks.