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Behind Enemy Lines - New Orleans

Dec 06 2013 04:41 AM Zod Carolina Panthers
Sunday night presents to us the biggest game the Carolina Panthers have played in nearly 5 years. If they Panthers can somehow pull out a victory against the Saints in New Orleans and the division title is the Panthers to lose. A loss in New Orleans would force the Panthers to require a little help from here on out from around the league.

Either way, Panthers fans once again are excited about a December game, and that is something worth celebrating in and of itself.

The Saints also know how important this game is.

From NOLA.com

"We know what's at stake," Drew Brees said. "... This game is the most important game of the season."


Drew Brees and the Saints are notorious for downplaying the significance of individual games. Not this week.

Saints coach Sean Payton agrees.

"It is playing an important game with regards to the division," Payton said. "It's a Sunday night game at home, those are things that you get excited about. I think at this point in the year playing in a division race like we are, I think both teams will be ready and excited.


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According to NOLA.com , Saints defense is struggling on third down....

But since holding Dallas to 0-for-9 on third down Nov. 10, that number has been creeping back up. The San Francisco 49ers converted 6-of-15 (40 percent) of their third downs, while the Atlanta Falcons were 6-of-12. The Seahawks were 7-of-14 on third down Monday, a season high for the Saints' defense. In contrast, Carolina allowed the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to convert just 1-of-10 third downs last Sunday. "We've just got to execute," said Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro. "We haven't been getting off the field as much on third down."


Giving up 50% of third down conversions over the last month is nothing to write home about and has much to do with why the Saints are 4-3 in the last 7 games. Looks for heavy doses of Mike Tolbert on third downs to loosen up the Saints defense even more.

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Drew Brees knows the Panthers Defense is top shelf...

"They're excellent," Brees said. "There's not a defense that's playing better than these guys. In every statistical category they're tops. Playing with a lot of confidence, they don't have a weak link."


Brees sees the game on Sunday night as an opportunity for vindication. He has a national platform to show the rest of the league the Saints are not the team that was whooped on Monday night, but rather a Superbowl contender. I expect to see the Saints come out throwing on Sunday night.

If the Panthers can keep it close in the first half, I like their chances. I am not sure they can keep up with New Orleans on their home turf if they go down by two scores. Mike Shula needs to have a solid game plan to move the ball efficiently from the first whistle. A few early punts could be the difference in the game.

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Honestly I ain't worried about the Saints right now. We are 2-0 this season beating teams coming off Monday night games.

 

Pros and Cons.

 

Pros- Saints have Brees Graham and the home crowd behind them in the dome.

Cons- They are coming off a Monday night game and they stayed an extra day up in Seattle because of the plane broke down. The will be extra tired in the process and having less time to prepare and coming off a lose.

 

Pros and Cons

 

Pros- Panthers coming off a blow out against the Bucs at home and we are on an 8 game streak right now. We have the game tape from Monday night game for our guys to study and see what the Seahawks did to keep Saints down. Plus we are rested up and getting back CJ and  a few other guys from injuries for this game.

 

Cons- Cams struggles at times with his passing and our running game has struggle the past few weeks or so. Aside from Tolbert. We are in the dome which will hurt them at times and that might cause them to make mistakes on both sides of the ball.

 

Overall it looks like we have the upper hand on a Saints team that is going to be tired very little to prepare for us and coming off of a lose. We have to take care of business against them. It will be a tough game. But this game should be ours with no problem.

 

 

sQ3wS.Em.138.jpeg               Good break down. I hope your assumptions are correct.

The only thing I'm predicting is a lot of fights especially in the second half. That means the Saints will be frustrated and when that happens they are losing and start trying to intimidate the better team. I say that's the Saints MO. So bring it on WhoDat Gate.      

This game might depend on the play of our safeties not biting on play action. If our D maintains their discipline on play fakes we could win this game walking home.

All due respect to NE and San Fran, but this is probably the most complete team we have faced since week 1.

But we can play with anybody.

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The Panthers have what it takes to take down the Saints. 
 
The defensive front seven will dominate the line of scrimmage, shutting down New Orleans' rushing attack and putting consistent pressure on Brees. As we've seen in the past, Brees isn't as effective in games in which he's hitting the turf on a regular basis. 
 
On offense, Cam's elusiveness in the pocket will be a problem for New Orleans. His ability to stretch plays with his legs will allow his receivers to get open downfield for a few huge plays, and he's been completing those passes with regularity of late. 
 
We're witnessing a changing of the guard in the NFC South. Carolina is rising, and the Panthers will take control of the division with a stunning road win on Sunday night. 

 

we need to be as efficient in this game on offense as we were against new england.

what we've given up two touchdowns all season in the first half?   something like that right?

1 TD, long pass play against Miami, iirc

 

edit: just 1Q

Time stamp: 4:41 am. Dedication at its finest. 

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what we've given up two touchdowns all season in the first half?   something like that right?

 

Correct, ATL was the first 1st half TD, & MIA was the first 1st qtr TD...

 

The Panthers have what it takes to take down the Saints. 
 
The defensive front seven will dominate the line of scrimmage, shutting down New Orleans' rushing attack and putting consistent pressure on Brees. As we've seen in the past, Brees isn't as effective in games in which he's hitting the turf on a regular basis. 
 
On offense, Cam's elusiveness in the pocket will be a problem for New Orleans. His ability to stretch plays with his legs will allow his receivers to get open downfield for a few huge plays, and he's been completing those passes with regularity of late. 
 
We're witnessing a changing of the guard in the NFC South. Carolina is rising, and the Panthers will take control of the division with a stunning road win on Sunday night. 

 

 

what the font?  did you type that or copy it?

Have any of you thought that if we beat the Saints Sunday...............we will more likely have to beat them in Dec to take the division...............and then.......

 

We may have to beat them a 3rd time in the playoffs.........

 

Is beating this team 3 times in one year let alone in such a short time realistic?

i wonder we will defer the kickoff if we win the toss. It will be good to get them in an early 3 and out then let our offense have one of their long patent clock killing drives that ends in TDs. Most definitely we are going to have to score some TDs. I really think our guys will be prepared for this game. We get them down early and they go into full pass mode, I like the chances of our pass rush eating Brees up. This is be a tough game regardless. It is a division with two teams with a lot of history with each other and being that the division is on the line. I am excited. I will have a beer cracked open in front of the tv come sunday night

I am more nervous about these upcoming games than I was the night I lost my virginity.....not that I really remember that long ago..but I'm just gonna go ahead and say that I was.

The formula for success is to run for two hundred yards and keep Brees on the sideline as much as possible........ if Cam accounts for a chunk of those yards, that's good also. The stinking Jets used that plan and beat them.

Have any of you thought that if we beat the Saints Sunday...............we will more likely have to beat them in Dec to take the division...............and then.......

We may have to beat them a 3rd time in the playoffs.........

Is beating this team 3 times in one year let alone in such a short time realistic?

that is always possible.

I know this, I'd rather play the Saints in Charlotte in the playoffs, than in the Dome.

that is always possible.

I know this, I'd rather play the Saints in Charlotte in the playoffs, than in the Dome.

 

No question. And I would hope for a nice snow shower also.

No question. And I would hope for a nice snow shower also.

 

Im man enough to say that Im jealous of your sig.

 

 

 

 

But mine's classier, its in black n white. . . thats 400 speed film, baby, crisp n clean. Just the right amount of graininess so you know that poo is legit.

we have started slow offensively the last couple of games. We can't afford to do that against the saints.  They'll come out firing wanting to prove the last game against Seattle was just an aberration. The saints don't like playing from behind. If we jump on them early, D gets good pressure on Brees and make him dance around a little bit, we'll have them chasing the game and when they chase the game they are prone to mistakes. Our guys know what's at stake. 

correct me if I'm wrong but didn't that td in miami get called back and they kicked a fg

 

I believe any logical fan, especially of this organization understands that. With a sweep of Nawlins, it will indeed be HUGE, why? Because it gives us the #2 seed and a 1st round bye.

Maybe, but we'd still need to win the other games we play against ATL and NYJ. Easier than beating the Saints? Yes, but not a given.

Alot of people seem to be thinking that the Saints will be a push-over, that we will stroll onto the field and they will be in such awe of Cam and Co that they will just forfeit the game.... better put your reality caps back on guys, this will be a slugfest right down to the wire. Could come down to who has the ball last...

9-3 Panthers vs 9-3 Bucs from '08..................  I think we'll do to the saints what we did to the Bucs...  I think we rack up over 200 yards rushing on the Saints,   giving their offense only around 6 or 7 total possessions.

Alot of people seem to be thinking that the Saints will be a push-over, that we will stroll onto the field and they will be in such awe of Cam and Co that they will just forfeit the game.... better put your reality caps back on guys, this will be a slugfest right down to the wire. Could come down to who has the ball last...

 

 

No, I think a lot of people are believing in their team.  And.............we have every reason to believe!  That is what is so awesome about this season.

so ready for sunday....