Jump to content

Luke Kuechly Photos

* * * * *

Keys to Victory - Seahawks at Panthers

Oct 03 2012 07:04 AM Zod Carolina Panthers
After a much improved game against the Falcons, fans are wondering which Panthers team will show up on Sunday. I am not ready to give up on this 1-3 team But lets face it, Seattle is also 1-3 team. Lets not count their win against Greenbay and the worst officiating call in years.

This is a very winnable game, here is how.

The Seahawks have a fantastic running back in Marshawn Lynch. Lynch is leading the league in rushing yards per game at 105. Throw in the fact that the Panthers run defense ranks 25th in the league will be trying to stop him and you can pretty much assume Marshawn will run for over 100 yards on Sunday..... but that's ok!

Lynch ran for 118 yards against St Louis, and lost the game 19-13. However, he only ran 20 times.

The Seahawks trailed the entire second half of the game. Once the Seahawks are playing from behind and forced to throw the ball, they put the game in the hands of their 5'10 rookie QB. (He is listed at 5'11 but that's being generous). That QB threw 3 picks last Sunday.

So this week the Panthers job is to make the Seahawks play from behind.

Seattle allows the second fewest points and yards in the NFL. YIkes,

Taking a closer look, their weakness appears to be stopping third down conversions, where they rank 24th in the league.

To win this game, the Panthers must put themselves in manageable 3rd down situations and do what they have not been good at so far this season, convert them. Firstly, this means play a perfect game in terms of penalties. Holding calls and false starts will definitely lose this game for us. Secondly, you are not going to go sideline to sideline on this group rushing the ball. They have the speed to shut down the option. Oh, and the wildcat? Tear it out of the playbook and burn it.

Play them straight up and win the battle in the trenches. A healthy Jonathan Stewart should be able to pick up some yards in this game. I don't expect Deangelo to do much against them unfortunately.

In short, the offense must take a slow methodical approach in this game. Field goals can beat this offensively inept Seahawks team, a big change from playing the Saints, Giants, and Falcons. There won't be many home run 20+ yard plays. Run the ball and complete underneath passes that the defense gives you. Yes, I know this goes completely against Chudzinski's philosophy, but I for one am hoping he will make this one game exception.

Add Comment

79 Comments

:: before

Having Kuechly on the field every play will improve our defense as a whole. You stack the box and take away the run. Make them a passing team and I think we come out on top.

I know their defense is good. But we have Cam Newton. Falcons had been playing great defense and we let them off the hook.

If we don't win this game the season is lost and we can start looking towards April IMO
I'm not ready to call this a must win, but its close.
Quick question, why are we playing a 4 o clock game and we're on the East?

Quick question, why are we playing a 4 o clock game and we're on the East?



TV ratings in the Seattle viewing area would be really low at 10am. .
I don't wanna get too cocky, everytime we "think" we have a better chance of winning-- we don't. Just like the Titans game last year.

TV ratings in the Seattle viewing area would be really low at 10am. .


The last time we played 4....

That's not really an advantage to us now is it

The last time we played 4....

That's not really an advantage to us now is it


We weren't at home.
You know what really scares me about this game?

The read option will work and it probably will against Dallas, which means it'll continue to be the base point of our offense
They have the better coaching staff, we have the better team in terms of talented players. We'll see which trumps which.

You know what really scares me about this game?

The read option will work and it probably will against Dallas, which means it'll continue to be the base point of our offense


I'm not sure it's going to work as well as you think. Their defense is pretty quick, they'll be able to make up ground fast and it'll make their job stopping the option easier.
Agree with everything Zod, If we stop: Marshawn Lynch and get an early lead, I think we can pull this one out.

I don't expect Cam to have a big day passing, but he could have a huge day rushing, seeing that every pass play everyone will be blanketed (great secondary) and he will already be on the move (great pass rush)
cam makes the wildcat completely unnecessary.

we have never been good at it. i really don't understand why now we insist on running it.
I keep thinking they're trying to set up a pass play to Cam to get him on the edge against much smaller DBs, but they never do it.
i'm not even all that worried about lynch. i think he'll run all over us, but that's all they have.

we just need to get out ahead of them by more than one TD and then just kick FGs.

get ahead and then just swarm their midget QB and shut him down.

seahawks have an offense that can't come back from a real deficit.

cam makes the wildcat completely unnecessary.

we have never been good at it. i really don't understand why now we insist on running it.


I've gotten to the point that I facepalm every time I see that stupid formation. If we never ran it again I wouldn't be upset.

Takes the ball out of our best playmaker's hands and we rarely do anything spectacular.
i guess the only thing that worries me about the seahawks is their defense.

if our offense is clicking, though, it will be more than able to get a decent enough lead that the seahawks can't come back from.

their defense looks kind of stingy against the run. 3ypa and they've only allowed 2 rushing TDs all year, but teams haven't been running on them all that much. 21 carries per game on average so far but they have played teams that just aren't all that good at running the ball and who just don't do it that much so i think a lot of that is just they haven't been challenged much against the run.
The read option works in college for two reasons:
1. All but the very top 10% of college players are far slower than their NFL counterparts.
2. The hash marks in college are farther apart (40' between) and the wide side of the field is much larger, allowing for more room to extend the play. NFL hashmarks are so much closer (18'6" between) to the center of the field that an overload rarely works- it's difficult to go unbalanced, and the read option requires an unbalanced blocking scheme- someone needs to pull.

The read option will not work against the Seachickens- their defense is very fast, even more so than the rest of the league where the read option is quickly becoming the Panthers achilles heel.

Marshawn Lynch gets stronger as the game goes on and is very well known and respected for usually getting more yards late than early in games. Only if they're behind does his running take a back seat, but if they need to kill clock, he's the workhorse that will pound out first down after first down.
for all the fear about lynch, i know he was a TD beast last year but this year he's only gotten into the endzone twice and he is the extent of all their rushing TDs.

he may pile on the yardage but even at that, it's because he's got a poo-ton of carries so far. he hasn't had less than 20 carries in a game, but he's only had over 5 ypa once and that was last week against the rams. also one of his TDs came last week against them, but they had already let 5 other rushing TDs happen prior to that.

against green bay he only got 3.9 ypa (and they are 4.4 ypa on average) and against zona he only got 4.0 ypa.
Lynch's stat line against our 2010 defense

Lynch Car 21 Yds 83 Avg 4.0 td 3 lg 22
two very inconsistent teams...too hard to know what might happen.

I remember the last time the Hawks were in Charlotte and it was a snoozer
This one's pretty simple to me... contain Lynch as much as possible. If we hold him to ~120 yards and one TD, that's a victory for our D.

...and, run the ball, run the ball, run the ball. They have good pash rush and excellent DBs, if we can't establish the run, we're screwed.
On the surface most gameplans seem pretty simple. Executing them while preventing the other guys from knocking you off of your gameplan is a bit more complex.

If we do exactly what we want going in we'll win. In reality it'll be somewhere in the middle probably.

I think we'll win but I think it'll be close.

The read option will not work against the Seachickens- their defense is very fast, even more so than the rest of the league where the read option is quickly becoming the Panthers achilles heel.


I've never been a big fan of the RO either, but the reality is, it has worked for us. We were more successful Sunday out of the RO than out of more traditional formations, averaging over 7 yards per carry. We keep getting that sort of production and you won't see it go away anytime soon.
After watching all four games and the preseason, I think part of the problem for the defense is the focus on takeaways. Instead of making the tackle when a running back is stopped, most of the defensive backs are only trying to get a takeaway. That lead to the problems defending the running game in all of our games.

two very inconsistent teams...too hard to know what might happen.

I remember the last time the Hawks were in Charlotte and it was a snoozer


that was the sludgy game in 2007 that was a scoreless tie until the fourth quarter right?

also matt moore's first career start iirc. it was something of an upset because the seahawks were cruising to their 700th straight NFC west title and the panthers had lost 5 or 6 of the last 7 games at that point.