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Round 2: Panthers select Kawann Short

Apr 26 2013 06:32 PM Kuech the Sneak Carolina Panthers
Strengths:
  • Good pass-rusher
  • Fast, quick
  • Capable of taking games over
  • Can be dominant
  • Plays with good pad level
  • Good feet
  • Quick get-off
  • Good use of hands
  • Repertoire of moves
  • Able to use hands and feet at same time
  • Has the ability to shed blocks
  • Can beat double-teams
  • Plays with good strength
  • Athletic
  • Can be extremely disruptive
  • Splash plays
  • Instinctive
  • Capable run-defender


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:: before

Is DA'Rick Rodgers still available?
Lost out on Bailey... Damn
guess we're going to be playin smear the quee r with Matty Ice.
I can't believe people are upset about us shoring up our defensive line. DL, OL, and QB are the only players that affect every play on the field, and if we just managed to land 2 good DTs in the same draft that will do more to improve our secondary than any amount of picks spent into a CB or safety.

This is exact how the Giants built their D.

Nasty DLine and pedestrian CB's. netted them 2 SB's



I like the pick but you are one of the dumbest ass posters here. Because all you do is ass kiss and spin. This is a poorly run franchise but according to you they haven't ever done anything wrong. Sorry but Giants DB's aren't pedestrian, but they do get injured a lot. And the Giants definitely, use high picks on there DBs, so even if you do consider them pedestrian, they don't say "its ok we can have pedestrain DB's back there". So stop acting like we can get by with pedestrian corners it just stupid spin. I don't have a problem with the pick, but I do have a problem with your spin

High DB picks since the Eli era
1) #43 Cory Webster
2)#20 Aaron Ross
3)#31 Kenny Phillips
4)#63 Terrell Thomas
5)#76 Chad Jones
6)#19 Prince Amukamara
7)#94 Jayron Hosley

In the same time frame we drafted Gamble, Marshall, Godfrey, and Martin high. With Webster, Ross, Phillips, Thomas they hit better than us, and kept drafting.

Giants value QB, DL, CB, and WR in the early rounds. Once again, I'm fine with the pick but change your spin for goodness sake the Giants dont just say we will get by with pedestrians back there or they wouldn't draft them so high. .

Is DA'Rick Rodgers still available?


Let's not say who we want. We see how that worked out today. I'm not going to predict anymore picks today. If we would have gotten another position in the first round this would have been a great pick, but now I'm a little up set that we didn't fix other needs. Specially with all the corners available when we picked.

I like the pick but you are one of the dumbest ass posters here. Because all you do is ass kiss and spin. This is a poorly run franchise but according to you they haven't ever done anything wrong. Sorry but Giants DB's aren't pedestrian, but they do get injured a lot. And the Giants definitely, use high picks on there DBs, so even if you do consider them pedestrian, they don't say "its ok we can have pedestrain DB's back there". So stop acting like we can get by with pedestrian corners it just stupid spin. I don't have a problem with the pick, but I do have a problem with your spin

High DB picks since the Eli era
1) #43 Cory Webster
2)#20 Aaron Ross
3)#31 Kenny Phillips
4)#63 Terrell Thomas
5)#76 Chad Jones
6)#19 Prince Amukamara
7)#94 Jayron Hosley

In the same time frame we drafted Gamble, Marshall, Godfrey, and Martin high. With Webster, Ross, Phillips, Thomas they hit better than us, and kept drafting.

Giants value QB, DL, CB, and WR in the early rounds. Once again, I'm fine with the pick but change your spin for goodness sake the Giants dont just say we will get by with pedestrians back there or they wouldn't draft them so high. .


I could care less what a little poo stain such as yourself thinks about me. Go back to masturbating to your issue of National Geographic and leave the discussion to the adults. Or else I will have to bend you over my knee and spank that little ass of yours.
OH poo.
CBs are overrated

DWill, Stew, Tolbert, Cam, Smitty, LaFell, Hixon, Ginn, Olsen.....the offense has plenty of weapons.

If the OLine stays healthy we will be a very good team.


Plus, this actually does help Newton. Puts less pressure on him to have to consistently score. I think this might be his most relaxed year as far as responsibility (if you know what I mean). Rookie year, defense was just horrific. Second year, our offense was just asking him to do everything which wasn't reasonable for someone still young. Now hopefully with a much improved or at least more consistent defense and hopefully an OC that balances it out more, Newton will be able to just be him.

Plus, this actually does help Newton. Puts lets pressure on him to have to consistently score. I think this might be his most relaxed year as far as responsibility (if you know what I mean). Rookie year, defense was just horrific. Second year, our offense was just asking him to do everything which wasn't reasonable for someone still young. Now hopefully with a much improved or at least more consistent defense and hopefully an OC that balances it out more, Newton will be able to just be him.


Yep.

Weak defense forces Cam to win shoot outs.

Finally it will be like Peppers-Buckner-Jenkins-Rucker again!
why does this board seem to hate the thought of drafting DTs?
Am I the only person who thinks Short will be better next season than Star? His job(shooting gaps) will be much easier than Star(eating two blockers) or am I making this to simple.
Told you guys we wouldnt pass up Short!

Hell yea. our inside DL is set!

Look for Duke Williams in the 4th.

why does this board seem to hate the thought of drafting DTs?


Sure as hell didn't hate it yesterday.

I like the pick but you are one of the dumbest ass posters here. Because all you do is ass kiss and spin. This is a poorly run franchise but according to you they haven't ever done anything wrong. Sorry but Giants DB's aren't pedestrian, but they do get injured a lot. And the Giants definitely, use high picks on there DBs, so even if you do consider them pedestrian, they don't say "its ok we can have pedestrain DB's back there". So stop acting like we can get by with pedestrian corners it just stupid spin. I don't have a problem with the pick, but I do have a problem with your spin

High DB picks since the Eli era
1) #43 Cory Webster
2)#20 Aaron Ross
3)#31 Kenny Phillips
4)#63 Terrell Thomas
5)#76 Chad Jones
6)#19 Prince Amukamara
7)#94 Jayron Hosley

In the same time frame we drafted Gamble, Marshall, Godfrey, and Martin high. With Webster, Ross, Phillips, Thomas they hit better than us, and kept drafting.

Giants value QB, DL, CB, and WR in the early rounds. Once again, I'm fine with the pick but change your spin for goodness sake the Giants dont just say we will get by with pedestrians back there or they wouldn't draft them so high. .

That's swell but out of all of the players you listed, Ross and Webster were the only ones who played in their first Super Bowl victory. And Webster was hurt for most of the season.
I love this pick!!! If you visited the draft board you'd notice I talked about Short all the time and said he was a great value pick. He produced year after year. Let him learn behind Edwards for a year and learn the game. The Nfc south just got put on notice.

Told you guys we wouldnt pass up Short!

Hell yea. our inside DL is set!

Look for Duke Williams in the 4th.

Both would be picks from my mock and I would be estatic
Popped a Hog Mollie, I'm sweatin'!
One thing I really love about Short is that he uses his hands extremely well and with force to maintain leverage and to keep the guard retreating. So while he might not get to the quarterback, he is preventing the quarterback from stepping up into a clean pocket when the outside pressure arrives (Johnson, Hardy).

Also, I appreciate just how well he splits double teams. As good of a pass rusher as he is, I think his power is really underrated.

Really, he is kind of similar to Nick Fairley in a lot of ways (and we got Short in the 2nd!) and we saw what happened this season with a healthy Fairley. He was damn near unstoppable at times. My only major concern with him is that he struggles against zone blocking. He can get washed away rather easily at times (watch his game against Wisconsin). Given his strength and quickness, I believe that can certainly be improved with coaching.

Also, the more you watch him play, the more you realize Purdue has a pretty bad defense around him.
Short was who I wanted even before Star fell into our laps. Games are mostly won at the line and we're going to start winning a lot more battles with these two picks.

Sure as hell didn't hate it yesterday.


Star was a huge value at a huge need. Kawann rounds out an infusion of youth in a position that has lacked talent and skill for years. However, from what I'm gathering, a lot of people still have a problem doubling down on the position.

I understand a lot of people think we need a WR. But the value wasn't at all comparable to Star at 14 and we already have countless second and mid-round picks already on the roster so why pick another? This isn't 2009-type WR talent we're looking at here (the only position that draft seemed to be strong in).
Nice little bit of info:

http://www.indystar....?nclick_check=1

Specifically mentioning he blocked 4 kicks last season!
For a guy with effort problems he sure puts up some impressive numbers.