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May 07 2013 11:27 AM janderson20vt Carolina Panthers

I love this time of year in the NFL, just after the draft. It's filled with hope, promise and the dawn of a new day as teams prepare for the coming season.
There's just this problem I can't get past when it comes to Cam Newton, Ron Rivera and this year's Carolina Panthers.


I don't think they have a chance.
They don't have a chance for anything.I think the Panthers enter the 2013 season as the worst team in the NFC South. They finished last season at 7-9, tied in the division standings with the New Orleans Saints and Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But both of those clubs made improvements. While I liked the Panthers' haul in the 2013 NFL Draft, where did Carolina get noticeably better? Honestly, the Panthers could be one of the four worst teams in the NFC. Consequently, I expect this season to be Rivera's last at the helm in Carolina


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000167664/article/carolina-panthers-going-nowhere-with-ron-rivera-cam-newton

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I get that Sean Payton is back but their defense is horrible and they are switching to a 3-4 without the roster to do so. How have the Aints improved ????

from somethingawful

 

Final Margin 0-7
Luck 222-407, 54.5%, 7.0 YPA, 16/9 TD/Int, 80.6 QBR
Cam 138-251, 55.0%, 7.7 YPA, 08/6 TD/Int, 80.7 QBR

4TH QTR, +/-7 PTS
Luck 51-89, 57.3%, 7.7 YPA, 4/1 TD/Int, 92.3 QBR
Cam 36-59, 61.0%, 9.4 YPA, 2/1 TD/Int, 96.5 QBR

Behind by 1-8 Points
Luck 91-170, 53.5%, 7.7 YPA, 8/6 TD/Int, 80.0 QBR
Cam 79-142, 55.6%, 8.5 YPA, 6/3 TD/Int, 89.0 QBR

 

 

And this doesn't include his rushing numbers. 

I love it !!! Put it on the locker room wall and use it as motivation.

A the end of the year make em eat their words and lose their credibility.

If hell froze over and somehow we won the Super Bowl, Cam should go to the post-game presser, read that article, drop the mic, and walk off the stage.

Here is the full article, maybe the OP can post this so the Schein asshat doesn't get the clicks he wants.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"I love this time of year in the NFL, just after the draft. It's filled with hope, promise and the dawn of a new day as teams prepare for the coming season.

There's just this problem I can't get past when it comes to Cam Newton, Ron Rivera and this year's Carolina Panthers.

 

 

I don't think they have a chance.

They don't have a chance for anything.

I think the Panthers enter the 2013 season as the worst team in the NFC South. They finished last season at 7-9, tied in division standings with the New Orleans Saints and Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But both of those clubs made improvements. While I liked the Panthers' haul in the 2013 NFL Draft, where did Carolina get noticeably better? Honestly, the Panthers could be one of the four worst teams in the NFC. Consequently, I expect this season to be Rivera's last at the helm of Carolina.

I don't believe Newton has what it takes to eradicate and/or mask areas of deficiency. I don't believe he is an elite, upper-echelon quarterback. The Panthers have finished under .500 in both of Newton's seasons as the quarterback. Cam can be dazzling and, at times, absolutely breathtaking. He also can be inconsistent protecting the ball and downright maddening with how he handles the "fifth quarter" responsibilities that come with being an NFL quarterback. Remember the press conference where he asked for the suggestion box? Franchise quarterbacks, team leaders don't do that. Newton rightly drew ire for performing his Superman routine when Carolina was losing big. Newton seemed aloof on the bench during losses, especially a 29-point, nationally televised defeat to the New York Giants on NFL Network. His teammates have yet to vote him a captain. That tells me something. Newton still needs to grow up. That's a problem.

When I look at the young group of quarterbacks, I don't put Newton in the category of Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson. He hasn't earned it. Luck and RG3 carried bad teams and were the epitome of clutch; the vets followed their lead. You don't see that happening with Newton in Carolina. Luck and RG3 would've put the flawed Panthers in the playoffs last year, just like they did with the Indianapolis Colts and Washington Redskins, respectively. The Panthers are 13-19 with Newton. Quarterbacks are judged by wins and losses. Going into Year 3, you can call Cam Newton electric, but you can't call him a winner.

 

I loved Carolina's appointment of Dave Gettleman as the new general manager. Former GM Marty Hurney helped doom the Panthers with a series of questionable drafts/free-agent contracts. Gettleman is the right guy for this difficult cleanup job, but I would've let him choose his own head coach. I don't believe Rivera will ever develop into a great head man. Offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski took the Cleveland Browns' head-coaching gig, and then quarterbacks coach Mike Shula replaced him. This appointment was odd, considering Newton really hasn't progressed. This staff needed surgery; instead, Carolina applied a Band-Aid.

I would've shown Rivera the door and had Gettleman handpick a head coach -- as well as an offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach -- to foster Newton's development. Carolina needs an offensive guru who demands perfection and accountability from Newton. I would've handed the keys over to Mike McCoy, Jay Gruden or Ken Whisenhunt.

In defense of both Newton and Rivera, this team just isn't very good.

What's the identity? Where are the Panthers strong? They lack depth at receiver. It's not a great offensive line. On the defensive side of the ball ... I loved the selection of Star Lotulelei in the draft. Luke Kuechly is a stud; I voted for the star linebacker as Defensive Player of the Year. But this defense still has more holes than Swiss cheese.

Here's the other ultra-important issue: Carolina clearly has the worst roster in the division.

Tampa Bay traded for Darrelle Revis and signed Dashon Goldson, instantly making an area of weakness (the defensive backfield) an area of strength. Offensive guards Davin Joseph and Carl Nicks are returning from injury. The Bucs are better than the Panthers in every area other than quarterback. Meanwhile, New Orleans welcomes back Sean Payton as head coach. He changes everything for the Saints, from attitude to play selection to overall execution. And despite the Falcons' loss in Carolina last December, I think it's safe to say Atlanta's a wee bit more talented.

 

Cam Newton isn't focused enough -- or good enough -- to overcome the obstacles he'll face in this competitive division.

I love Carolina Panthers fans. They've been a downtrodden and beaten-down bunch the last few years. They deserve better.

I don't think Newton and Rivera are the guys to deliver a winning product. History and a glimpse into the crystal ball say so."

 

Its not even that I'm a biased fan, but that is total bullshit.  People get paid to write this? Seen better poo on a tissue

Of course he may just be right...

Oh well, at least he likes Cam more than Josh Freeman

This is good more fuel for the fire..........He will look like a dumbass when the season is over  P.S. someone should forward this article to panthers player on twitter

Found it so ridiculously hilarious that I saved it to reference for later.

Grab a copy of your 2003 Sports Illustrated NFL preview, where the Panthers were picked last in the NFC South and bottom four in the conference

 

Yeah, that turned out nicely

Front page snippet calls the team a "hapless bunch" lol.  I could see if he referred to schedule being a key factor.. but how Cam handles post game comments...?

Schein was on the Panthers wagon in 2008 and since then has disliked us. he picked us to go 4th in the division last year but said we tied three other teams instead of finished second. He was factually correct but wrong in his prediction then and will be wrong in his prediction now. We will finish second based on a strong defense and good offense.

What a jerk  !

he contradicts himself quite a bit. For example, he starts out with Cam Newton isnt an elite qb and carolina wont go anywhere with him but then later staes that Gettlemen should have appointed his own staff including a QB coach to foster newton.  Why foster a qb you said isnt the answer?

Reading this reminds me of how important week 1 vs. Seattle is going to be.  it has nothing to do with Cam vs Wilson.....it has everything to do with coming out with an early win.  Winning breeds confidence....if we lose week 1 (just like last year) I think it can easily send us spiraling down to where this guy may end up being right.  That game means everything (IMO)

Whole article was laughs

 

I hate how people dont know poo about my small market teams and write poo like they do. It's real annoying

Bulletin board material for players and fans alike.

 

fug that guy. 

If the Saints get back on track, I could see the Panthers in last place in the NFC South, as they are currently constructed. Offensively, I don't think this team is much better than last year
 

Reading this reminds me of how important week 1 vs. Seattle is going to be. it has nothing to do with Cam vs Wilson.....it has everything to do with coming out with an early win. Winning breeds confidence....if we lose week 1 (just like last year) I think it can easily send us spiraling down to where this guy may end up being right. That game means everything (IMO)


The NFL has banked on Seattle being on the league's elite teams... they get four primetime games. Hard not to see us as the jobbers being fed to make the Seahawks look good

@ItsGHardy Media's ripping on your QB: https://twitter.com/...814626004185088


@ElijahHorton they ripped on me to and I never quit on u ask @jonbeason @randywattson @DeAngeloRB and do on we never quit success is here

Schein wrote the same kind of article about the Browns a few offseasons ago. And he was right in that situation. And I get where he's coming from now. But if he liked our haul from the draft, why does he think we aren't better?

 

I agree, we haven't made any real waves or improvements. He is right. But we are a hair better than last year and with a few different bounces last year we would have been over .500, so we will be competitive still. We just aren't much.

All I needed to see was "Adam Schein".

Knew the article would be worthless as soon as I saw who wrote it.

fug that guy.

griffin would have been horrible on this team running this system.  his accuracy goes to pieces outside of like 20 yards and unless chudzinski suddenly decided he wanted to run a walsh west coast offense he'd have been IR'd by week 10.

You guys already know the media routine when it comes to our team.

I didn't think the usual hit pieces would begin trickling out until camp though, guess I was wrong.

He's right about Cam; he isn't a winner yet... but none of those other teams have Ron "Loser" Rivera as a head coach. Since he's back, our fate is probably sealed. But who didn't know that the moment we re-hired him.