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Brandon Lafell - Ooh Wee Mayne

Dec 17 2013 06:48 AM Zod Carolina Panthers
There isn't a more frustrating player for Panthers fans than Brandon "Donald" Lafell. One week he looks like a rookie, the next an accomplished veteran.

Against the Saints, Lafell had a less than lackluster performance (to put it nicely). Not only was he not catching balls, but he was missing blocks. Missing blocks is inexcusable for a receiver of his size.

Apparently, Lafell knew he needed to redeem himself. Notice his role in the Deangelo Williams screen pass. Without Lafell's block on the 20 yard line Deangelo would not have had a touchdown. With the Panthers red zone scoring at a near season low, this was a crucial play that has gone overlooked.

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I'm not saying we're going to get a Megatron or AJ Green where we're picking, but we should be able to find a number one WR with the depth in the draft. There's a ton of guys with that potential in this class. 

 

I don't think any guy is going to step in as a #1 right away, unless we are picking top 5, which we aren't.

 

Best hope is to get a solid #2 with good upside.

I'm not saying we're going to get a Megatron or AJ Green where we're picking, but we should be able to find a number one WR with the depth in the draft. There's a ton of guys with that potential in this class. 

Right we will still get a great WR. Demarius Thomas was a late first rounder, Jordy Nelson 2nd, Torrey Smith late first, Boldin,  Alshon 2nd. Hopkins, Allen, Kendall Wright, Josh Gordon all are guys not taken early but difference makers.  Gettleman will find Cam a WR

I don't think any guy is going to step in as a #1 right away, unless we are picking top 5, which we aren't.

 

Best hope is to get a solid #2 with good upside.

 

You don't think a guy like Kelvin Benjamin or Marqise Lee could step in and be a play maker within the first few games of the season? 

You could do much better, too. You're #2, like you're #1, needs to do one thing above everything else, and that's catch the ball when it's thrown in your direction. I don't care if you're #1 is your home run threat and your burner, even if you're not the dynamic receiver on the squad you still have to be counted on to make a play. And no one with a drop rate like LaFell can be a quality #2 or even a mediocre #1. Until he proves he's got the ability to go up and fight for a ball, and (this one drives me nuts) catch the easy ones, I'd hesitate to look at him as a viable #2.

As of right now, he's good, but easily replaceable, and I certainly wouldn't pass up a quality WR in the hopes that LaFell would develop into that role.

what's his drop rate? How does it compare to others?

I don't feel he drops that many passes.

So go grab those stats to back up your claim.

You don't think a guy like Kelvin Benjamin or Marqise Lee could step in and be a play maker within the first few games of the season? 

 

Hard to say. Who predicted Keenan Allen would be doing what he's doing right now? I just want a legit threat, #1, #2, doesn't matter.

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Camsfanclub
Dec 17 2013 12:34 PM

The funnier part to me was seeing Kalil run fast as *** trying to catch that LB or w/e. He has to be one of the fastest O lineman in the league.

I don't think any guy is going to step in as a #1 right away, unless we are picking top 5, which we aren't.

 

Best hope is to get a solid #2 with good upside.

Not expecting them to be number 1 day 1 of camp. But could make an impact early and grow into a bigger role by mid to late season. Which would allow Steve into the slot more, only good things happen from that

what's his drop rate? How does it compare to others?

I don't feel he drops that many passes.

So go grab those stats to back up your claim.

 

There's a difference in dropping a ball when your team is up by 17 or down by 17 in the fourth quarter and dropping a crucial pass that gives momentum, or directly leads to putting a high powered offense in position to score more. LaFell has been guilty of the latter. Whether other WRs have or not I'm not sure. I would imagine they do, but I don't have those stats, nor do I honestly care to spend the hours looking them up. I personally think it would be best for both parties to go other ways, but not against bringing him back depending on the circumstances. 

LaFell could develop into a Jeffrey type (who benefits from playing across from a prime Marshall. Steve Smith doesn't draw defensive attention like he used to anymore.) Decker still has drops and disappears for long stretches, plus has Peyton throwing the ball 50 times a game. Floyd would be a #1 on most teams (so doesn't it the classic definition of a #2.) Nicks has disappeared entirely. Baldwin would get a long look.

I guarantee you that if LaFell was allowed to walk he'd have a line of interested teams who'd love his size and physicality.

and would probably be very productive in a pass heavy offense.

Hard to say. Who predicted Keenan Allen would be doing what he's doing right now? I just want a legit threat, #1, #2, doesn't matter.

 

I know plenty on here including myself thought Allen was a guy who could step in and be a difference maker pretty early. People relied too much on what the dude did in shorts as opposed to what he did in pads on the actual field. Allen looked like a top flight WR prospect on Saturday's, so it shouldn't really surprise anyone that he's playing at a high level on Sunday's if you ask me.

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carolina-chuck
Dec 17 2013 01:54 PM

LaFell could develop into a Jeffrey type (who benefits from playing across from a prime Marshall. Steve Smith doesn't draw defensive attention like he used to anymore.)

 

WTF! SMFH. Get off those damn drugs.

 

Only a homer would compare LaFell to Jeffery. Jeffery is on the level with the best right now(Calvin, Andre, Green, etc.).

 

LaFell is in his 4th seasons putting up stats like the rookie Terrence Williams (4th option) of the Cowboys.

 

LaFell played two seasons (2011/2012) with a highly productive Steve Smith across from him. He didnt do much jack. He is improving but you should lower your expectations. Lafell is Lafell. I have not seen anything where he could eventually develop into a Jeffery.

 

 

There's a difference in dropping a ball when your team is up by 17 or down by 17 in the fourth quarter and dropping a crucial pass that gives momentum, or directly leads to putting a high powered offense in position to score more. LaFell has been guilty of the latter. Whether other WRs have or not I'm not sure. I would imagine they do, but I don't have those stats, nor do I honestly care to spend the hours looking them up. I personally think it would be best for both parties to go other ways, but not against bringing him back depending on the circumstances.

he wad our most clutch receiver last season.

I don't feel a few hand picked plays, chsnge that.
Every receiver on the team, including Steve Smith has dropped some crucial passes.
Lafell could develop into a Jeffrey like player? Thanks for the laugh. Jeffrey has made more insane catches in one season than Lafell has EVER made. Jeffrey is a physical specimen.

he wad our most clutch receiver last season.

I don't feel a few hand picked plays, chsnge that.
Every receiver on the team, including Steve Smith has dropped some crucial passes.

 

The problem is two of those hand picked plays play a huge factor in us being 10-4 still needing a win to get in the dance, and being 12-2 with the division locked up playing for home field throughout....

My favorite part of that play is Ryan Kalil hustling his fat ass off to block somebody but Deangelo just leaves him in the dust.

You guys watch every snap Brandon plays. When you stare at something that long your going to spot some flaws. Megatron cost his team the game and maybe the playoffs with several big drops against the Ravens. It happens, guys drop balls, Wes Welker had a drop in the Super Bowl. The only reason you single out Brandon is because you see every drop he makes.

 

I'm not sure Eric Decker is a star. He is playing in a Peyton Manning offense with many other weapons. He probably wouldn't pull the same numbers with us, probably not even close. Peyton Manning made Pierre Garcon a household name.

 

It's easy to list off star #2 receivers in pass happy offenses. Guys that were drafted high with tons of talent. Lafells yardage, receptions, and touchdowns put him right in no.2 receiver territory. Just look at Cam's pass attempts, we don't throw the ball enough for Lafell to have huge numbers.

 

We need a no.1 receiver. Via draft most likely because FAs will cost an arm and a leg. Hakeem Nicks may be interested in signing a 1 year "get right" deal. I just don't think we can replace Lafell without spending more money or a high draft pick. He's not that bad.

WTF! SMFH. Get off those damn drugs.

 

Only a homer would compare LaFell to Jeffery. Jeffery is on the level with the best right now(Calvin, Andre, Green, etc.).

 

LaFell is in his 4th seasons putting up stats like the rookie Terrence Williams (4th option) of the Cowboys.

 

LaFell played two seasons (2011/2012) with a highly productive Steve Smith across from him. He didnt do much jack. He is improving but you should lower your expectations. Lafell is Lafell. I have not seen anything where he could eventually develop into a Jeffery.

 

Only a dumbass with a memory span of a gnat would put Jeffery on the level with the best right now. Also, Jeffery has 133 targets to LaFell's 81. Extrapolate LaFell's stats with the same number of targets and he'd have very similar numbers to Jeffery.

Lafell could develop into a Jeffrey like player? Thanks for the laugh. Jeffrey has made more insane catches in one season than Lafell has EVER made. Jeffrey is a physical specimen.

 

Yeah, one effing highlight reel tells you everything you need to know about a player. Seeing how Cam doesn't throw random passes up for grabs anymore, how often as LaFell actually had to make an insane catch?

Yeah, one effing highlight reel tells you everything you need to know about a player. Seeing how Cam doesn't throw random passes up for grabs anymore, how often as LaFell actually had to make an insane catch?

 

 

guess you haven't heard but Jeffrey's SPECTACULAR CATCH rating in Madden is 99..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

99 bro.

Yeah, one effing highlight reel tells you everything you need to know about a player. Seeing how Cam doesn't throw random passes up for grabs anymore, how often as LaFell actually had to make an insane catch?


Lafell can't even make routine catches. Stop it.
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carolina-chuck
Dec 17 2013 04:22 PM

Only a dumbass with a memory span of a gnat would put Jeffery on the level with the best right now. Also, Jeffery has 133 targets to LaFell's 81. Extrapolate LaFell's stats with the same number of targets and he'd have very similar numbers to Jeffery.


Lol wtf. It's getting too funny. Just quit. I have my share of laugh of already. Thank you.


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you on some good $hit.

The problem is two of those hand picked plays play a huge factor in us being 10-4 still needing a win to get in the dance, and being 12-2 with the division locked up playing for home field throughout....

what about the game steve smith and the entire offense mailed it in, against buffalo?

i can cherry pick too.
I've gone on and on about LaFell and while doing so I try to look at the good and the bad.

LaFell is 27, fourth year in the league. I think we can all stop using the word "potential". What you see is what we are going to get. His main issue are his lapses in concentration, and his maturity. Someone said in this thread LaFell has a "know it all" attitude and that wouldn't surprise me if true. He's had the privilege of playing with 89 for all 4 years, he should be soaking up every little bit of info and knowledge Smitty is giving him.

Good blocking wide receivers are hard to find. In my LaFell thread I really went into detail with numbers, I'm not a huge numbers guy myself but I found it interesting that for the times LaFell has been targeted, he's on par with his numbers of receptions and yards. In a pass heavy offense I think LaFell's numbers would look alot different.

I think his drops keep getting brought up because he's dropped some balls on some big plays. Dallas and KC last year come to mind and Zona this year. The catch he made Sunday was awesome, I can't even think of a more proper word because it was that good. He knew he was going to get drilled and even lost control for a second but relocated the ball and grabbed it.

However my favorite play on Sunday from LaFell was his 3rd catch, he caught the ball on the sideline and turned and lowered his shoulder and fought for an extra 2 yards. LaFell has some size to me and I'd love to see him use it more. He is capable of making nice catches as well, lets not forget that great sideline/jump ball he caught against Green Bay in 2011. The talent is there, it's a shame his maturity is going to hold him back from being really good.

I'm sure you all are tired of reading my posts on LaFell, I just want to get excited about a receiver again (it's my fav position) and it's been sooooo long since we've had anyone to get excited over other than Smitty. If we don't address this need in the first round, I'm going to be really disappointed.

Lafell on the same level as Jeffrey.....LMAO

LaFell has all the skills to be a starter in the NFL but he wont ascend if he keeps dropping wide open balls. Lets think back to Moose and compare skills. There are very similar targets and Moose had his share of the dropsies. The difference is that whenever it was 3rd or 4th down, Moose came down with the ball. He might drop a dumb one on 1st or 2nd down but very rarely did he do that on 3rd down. LaFell doesnt have a chip on his shoulder. He doesnt seem arrogant by any means. He's just more complacent than someone like Smitty.

 

Stop comparing stats with other receivers and compare their skill sets. You can claim LaFell doesnt get open all day if you want but you wont be to explain how he gets so many catches then would you? You can claim that he doesnt go up for the ball all day but you have no examples to show for. Just look at what is and what is not. LaFell drops gimmies too often for a starter. Does that mean he shouldnt be starting? No, because there are many under par 2's in the league that he's better than. Could he be better?. . . . yes, and thats the problem. Imho he is a below avg starter with one critical problem area. If he fixes that, he's a keeper, if not, well its a gamble.