Gregg Williams Urged Saints To Injure 49Ers

Just listened to that. I mean, for the argument that every NFL team 'does it,' I think this audio clearly shows how far the Saints took it.

Gregg Williams is a loathsome piece of poo. I'll never forget 2009 when he said in the fuging press conference before the Panthers Saints game that they would turn Smith's little body upside down and make him land on his head.

What a piece of poo.

I am not shocked.

Sounds like something from Any Given Sunday.

I know it sucks ass and it is dirty as fug. But, that is the reality.

I couldn't listen, I could only read the transcribt.

I really didn't have a problem until he started talking about body part, acls, concussions.

Glad the douchebag is gone though.

In that audio clip he's asking player to 'affect the head' before they get off the pile and early in the game to hit and injure the head of the other players. No Saints fan will ever convince me our player try the same type of garbage.

"we want frank gores head sideways we gotta kill frank gore's head" wtf lol

i'm not one to fly off the handle and overreact, and i've been around a lot of loathsome things in my life, but that was disgusting.

Over on Saints Report every single one of those fugers is saying they heard that same kind of speach in PeeWees. What brainless idiots. I'm sure your PeeWee coach told you to take out guys' ACLs and to beat their heads when in the pile, and to make other players ankles feel it on the pile.

i was trying to be as unbiased as possible when first listening to that.

at first i was all:

"ok kill the head... it's a metaphor... taking the best players out of the game in a physical dominating manner will make the rest of the team suck. sure it could be taken as injure those guys, but i think he just wants physical football..."

then i was all:

"... ok... talking about hitting alex smith in the chin... that's... you know... not right..."

then I was all:

"hitting a dude in the head who has a concussion and going for ACL's and hitting hurting people in the piles? yeah ok... he's a douche bag and deserves the punishment."

Honestly, everyone involved in this should be banned from the NFL.

lifetime ban? I think so.

kinda curious as to how this audio got out

nonetheless this is disgusting

ACLs and reinjuring guys coming off previous concussions is way over the top. But some of the head reference from what I heard was talking about getting into their mental frame of mind and affecting their thoughts not hitting them in the head literally Getting in their head in the pile means talking crap while he is down not taking a cheap shot to the head while he is lying there. I am not trying to defend a piece of crap like him and I do think he advocated for guys to take late hits and try to hurt folks but 2/3rds of what he said was the kind of material you can find any defensive coordinator say. He just took it over the top and crossed the line too often.

If he knew this was being taped and he said all that, I wonder what he did say when no one was around to capture it. It could have been a lot more explicit that this.

yeah i think it's important that what this audio is evidence of be separated from the concept of toughness. tough is the people who had to play against this horseshit for years. gameplanning attempted assault on opponents is the opposite of tough. injuring the other team is something you resort to when you have a lack of toughness and don't think you can beat them any other way.

It's one thing when you have a few rogue players doing it. It's another when it's sanctioned by the organization. You know what that's called? Organized crime. Intentionally trying to end careers. SMH.

He will never coach again.

ACLs and reinjuring guys coming off previous concussions is way over the top. But some of the head reference from what I heard was talking about getting into their mental frame of mind and affecting their thoughts not hitting them in the head literally Getting in their head in the pile means talking crap while he is down not taking a cheap shot to the head while he is lying there. I am not trying to defend a piece of crap like him and I do think he advocated for guys to take late hits and try to hurt folks but 2/3rds of what he said was the kind of material you can find any defensive coordinator say. He just took it over the top and crossed the line too often.

If he knew this was being taped and he said all that, I wonder what he did say when no one was around to capture it. It could have been a lot more explicit that this.

I can see why you would believe that, but it's kind of hard to agree when he uses the phrase "we want to kill Frank Gore's head." Especially, when he follows this up with "Little 32, we want to knock the fug out of him", "we hit fugin' Smith right here (points to chin)", "Go lay that motherfuger out", "Early, affect the head. Continue, touch and hit the head", "We need to find out...the little wide receiver, number 10, about his concussion", "we fuging take out that outside ACL", and "...how many times we can beat Frank Gore's Head".

He's definitely talking about injuring the other team, and he's definitely talking about aiming for the head physically.

I'm going to give "kill the head and the body will die" top honors. Seriously WTF?

this guy is going to face severe civil penalties ..

i hope goodell hears this and suspends payton for an extra year

I can see why you would believe that, but it's kind of hard to agree when he uses the phrase "we want to kill Frank Gore's head." Especially, when he follows this up with "Little 32, we want to knock the fug out of him", "we hit fugin' Smith right here (points to chin)", "Go lay that motherfuger out", "Early, affect the head. Continue, touch and hit the head", "We need to find out...the little wide receiver, number 10, about his concussion", "we fuging take out that outside ACL", and "...how many times we can beat Frank Gore's Head".

He's definitely talking about injuring the other team, and he's definitely talking about aiming for the head physically.

I hear guys saying I want you to kill him, blow him up. Does that mean hit him hard or literally kill him and blow him up with a bomb?? When you hit the head it is mentally or physically?? Coaches do talk in metaphors all the time. Again I am not trying to excuse him as the bounty program is evidence there was a plan to hurt players but honestly just to hear what he said in isolation of what else we know, it is not that different from what I know is being said in other lockers rooms as well. Just not to the same extreme perhaps.

So normally, I don't spend a lot of time on opposing fans messageboard. But I went over there just to see what they were saying about this. My God, those mother fuggers are the most dumbest ignorant homers of any fanbase I've ever seen.

In addition to his suspension I think they need to throw him in a cage with Smitty for a hour

The part that got me was where he was talking about taking someone out while they were on the sidelines. And their coaches....take them out too....and their fans....take them out too...seriously....WTF is wrong with that man?

they should force Benson to move the franchise to Juarez for one season lol

He says repeatedly hit the head. Anyone that says they were coached that way were coached wrong.

Let's see....talking about taking out Crabtree's ACL, trying to target a player's head who has a concussion, targeting Davis's ankles, hitting Smith in the head....

fug this team, this guy, his players, and anyone else who thought trying to end a player's career is a worthy pursuit.