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Panthers Roster Battles

Aug 14 2012 08:39 PM paulSM Carolina Panthers
Looking at the roster there seems to be nine or so roster battles left. these are not a "who's going to start battles." These are who's going to make the 53. Here’s my take

RB: Vaughan vs Poole

With all the injuries RBs sustain we'll have to keep three. This comes down to Vaughan and Poole. By all accounts Poole is doing great while Vaughan is being his hard working self. That being said Vaughan has special teams experience and tenure. so it wouldn't surprise me if he won out.

- My prediction: Poole wins

WR: Murphy, Gettis, Edwards, Tutu

I've broken down the roster several ways and I just don't see us holding onto seven receivers. That leave these four battling it out for two spots (I think green will be headed to the practice squad). I know most people are handing Gettis a spot, but that doesn't seem to be the RR way. It's either put up or shut up, and for him to put up he has to get on the field. He doesn't add anything that the other healthy receivers can't give us. As for Edwards, I think he's about were he should be in his development, and I think he has a great upside. Unfortunately, upside doesn't get you a roster spot with this collection of players. Of the four I like Tutu the least, but I see him making it.

- My prediction: Murphy, tutu (I'm ok with any two out of these four. Murphy and Edwards would be my fav though)

TE: Hartsock vs Brockel

I think Barnidge will get the second receiving TE spot, and I see Rosario on the practice squad. That leave Hartsock vs Brockel for the blocking TE/backup FB spot. Brockel has more versatility but Hartsock is the better blocker.

- My prediction: Hartsock

G/C: Blackwell, Byers, Z Williams. Browning, Allan

we know the starters and I see Campbell, G Williams, Pollack as locks for backup spots. That leaves one backup G/C spot available in what I think will be a 9 man line. I really don't know much about this battle, and have heard positive from all of them. I think Byers and Z Williams are the most versatile.

- My prediction (for final roster purposes): Byers

UT: Neblett, Chandler

I see four DEs as definite right now. You know the first three. I'm adding Keiser because he outplayed everyone at the end of last year, seems to be a RR type player, and brings some pass rush we desperately need. I see three DTs as definite: Edwards, Fua, and McClain. After crunching the numbers I see us keeping 4 or 5 DT but probably just four. Since Edward and Fua are both NT. That means the fourth spot probably goes to an UT. Neblett and Chandler fit that bill. I see Chandler heading for the practice squad

- My prediction: Neblett

Safety: Pugh, Smith

Martin and Nakamura have been the best two safeties in camp, which leave the SS position more up in the air. I see Godfrey as keeping the starting gig. As for the backup battle, smith really hasn't doesn't anything of note so far. I don't see Nelson or Sullivan in the mix, and I think Campbell is heading for the practice squad. I had Pugh written off before training camp, but now....

- My prediction: Pugh

CB: Hogan, Stanford, Thomas, Ness

I'm calculating 5 Corner spots on the roster. I think it's possible that it ends up as low as four or as high and six, but I think five is the most likely. Gamble, Captain, and Norman seem to be locks at this point. I'm going to add butler to that mix. This leaves us with one spot for the four left. Ness's concussion is going to hurt his slim chances, but he was filling out as a RR type. I think Hogan has the best upside, but he has to get on the field. I'm almost at a loss on this one. I really hope Hogan comes through.

- My prediction: Hogan

K: Medlock vs Mare

I'm not sure who has the lead between Nortman and Harris, but I think it's Nortman. On top of that the draft pick will definitely win in case of a tie, so I'm penciling him in. Medlock and Mare has gotten really interesting however. So far it seems as if they are in a virtual tie. Sure, ever panther fan is hoping Medlock takes it, but I'm not sure who would win this one if it were tied. Will it be the veteran with a bad year, and a long track record as one of the best in the league, or the one who didn't shank a bunch of kicks for us last year? My brain is telling me Mare, but I really hope it isn't.

- My prediction: Medlock (I went back and changed this name about three times)


Final roster spot:

Assuming that we keep three QBs (we will), and that seven linebackers are being kept for certain roles (Anderson, Beason, Keek, Davis, Onatolu, Senn, Applewhite). That leaves one open position. I'm assuming that spot goes to a defensive player, but I guess it's POSSIBLE that it goes to a WR. That would leave us with the following battling it out for one spot: A. Edwards, Gettis, Norwood, Kearse, Phillips, Reggie smith, Thomas, Ness. I really have no idea where to go here. So I'm going to go with our biggest need. Pass rush. Kearse and Gettis are the last cuts.

- My prediction: Norwood (by the skin of his teeth. I didn’t think he had a chance in hell to make the roster a month ago)

That leaves my final roster as:

Offense:
QB: Newton, Anderson, Clausen
RB: Williams, Stewart, Poole
FB: Tolbert
WR: Smith, Lafell, Murphy, Tutu, Pilares, Adams
TE: Olsen, Barnidge, Hartsock
OT: Gross, Bell, Campbell, G Willaims
OG: Silatolu, Hangartner, Pollack,
C: Kalil, Byers
LS: Jansen

Defense
DE: Johnson, Hardy, Alexander, Keiser, Norwood
DT: Edwards, McClain, Fua, Neblett
LB: Beason, Keuchly, Anderson, Davis, Applewhite, Onatolu, Senn
FS: Martin, Nakamura
SS: Godfrey, Pugh
CB: Gamble, Norman, Munnerlyn, Butler, Hogan
P: Nortman
K: Medlock… I mean Mare… I mean Medlock

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Wow, way to totally miss it. Five or six feet over your head, at least. Lol
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Herbert The Love Bug
Aug 16 2012 03:32 AM

You can choose to reserve your comments until after the final 53 if you think it's going to make you feel smarter. This is a Forum, people give their opinions/comments, but it doesn't make them any more of an idiot than your comments make you an idiot.


wifff

One thing to keep in mind while filling out rosters...while Neblett counts as part of our 90 man roster and the 75 man roster after 1st cuts, he will not count against the 53 while serving his suspension.

So assuming he would have made the 53, we'll have 4 weeks to maybe try out one of the rookie DT's, and then put them on the practice squad when Neblett returns.

Players can be active in up to 6 games without losing their PS eligibility. So maybe Chandler or Van Bergen have a chance after all.

Another option...maybe Armanti makes the 53 at the beginning of the season to make sure he's available should Joe Adams really struggle in the first 4 games. A bit of insurance if you will.

There are a number of possibilities. One that doesn't seem likely would be keeping Mare long enough to see how Medlock does in real games. Reason? He carries a high salary, and that salary would be guaranteed for the full year even if we cut him after week 4.

Lots of fun scenarios to think about...



You sure he won't count?

Even if he doesn't, we could go in with 52 guys until he comes back
Promoted to article. Excellent post.

Wow, way to totally miss it. Five or six feet over your head, at least. Lol

Throw an accurate pass and I'll catch it.

wifff

Yeah

I'm reserving my comments until after the final 53-man roster is released so I can claim to have been right all along and point out all the idiots in this thread.

No more mention of Gettis getting cut, kthx

You can choose to reserve your comments until after the final 53 if you think it's going to make you feel smarter. This is a Forum, people give their opinions/comments, but it doesn't make them any more of an idiot than your comments make you an idiot.

chaos was making a joke...he's going to wait until after the 53 man roster is named to name who he thinks will make the 53 man roster so he can be right.

nvm....what he said was kind of funny. the reaction to it made it funnier.

Cut Pilares to replace him with another WR? Who exactly is going to replace him? Tutu? AE? haha

And how do you see it would keep an extra WR? Do you not consider Pilares a receiver?


I do consider him a receiver, but he will make the team as a KR more than anything else. I am not saying Pilares will get cut, but it wouldn't surprise me if Adams took some KR in preseason. If Adams can handle the KR duties, this really puts pressure on Pilares to produce as a WR. Gettis and Tutu are locks at this point in my opinion.

Someone will get cut that shocks everyone and I'm not sure Pilares is a lock.

chaos was making a joke...he's going to wait until after the 53 man roster is named to name who he thinks will make the 53 man roster so he can be right.

nvm....what he said was kind of funny. the reaction to it made it funnier.

I obviously missed the joke and probably would again. The joke, any joke is only funny to those that know you well enough to know that you're joking. But thanks for the explanation, with all of the smart remarks, disrespectful and or degrading comments that goes on in the huddle for no reason, a joke has help slipping through, especially to the unknown.

You sure he won't count?

Even if he doesn't, we could go in with 52 guys until he comes back


I am not sure if he would count or not but if he didn't count why would you only go in with 52. It would make sense to go in with 53 so we'd have a trial period with those low on the totem pole to see if they can prove themselves.
ESPN.com picked up this story and linked it.

I do consider him a receiver, but he will make the team as a KR more than anything else. I am not saying Pilares will get cut, but it wouldn't surprise me if Adams took some KR in preseason. If Adams can handle the KR duties, this really puts pressure on Pilares to produce as a WR. Gettis and Tutu are locks at this point in my opinion.

Someone will get cut that shocks everyone and I'm not sure Pilares is a lock.


Tutu is a lock? lol

I am not sure if he would count or not but if he didn't count why would you only go in with 52. It would make sense to go in with 53 so we'd have a trial period with those low on the totem pole to see if they can prove themselves.


We did it before in some other situation. I think it was when Smith was suspended.

There really isn't anyone of significance to keep around for 4 games atm. Even if we do keep a PS eligible guy on the 53 man squad and he turns out to be good, he'd have to clear waivers after already being showcased to the league before being put on our PS when Neblett returns.
Surprise cut Darius Butler. The notion that Gettis will be cut but not Tutu is bat poo cray.
i also think Butler is on the bubble and Gettis. Gettis is not one of RR guys and he has yet to step on the field. he start on pup as well.
Offense:
QB: Newton, Anderson, Clausen
RB: Williams, Stewart, Poole
FB: Tolbert
WR: Smith, Lafell, Murphy, Gettis, Pilares, Adams
TE: Olsen, Barnidge, Brockel
OT: Gross, Bell, Campbell, G Willaims
OG: Silatolu, Hangartner, Pollack,
C: Kalil, Byers
LS: Jansen

Defense
DE: Johnson, Hardy, Alexander, Keiser, Applewhite
DT: Edwards, McClain, Fua, Neblett
LB: Beason, Keuchly, Anderson, Davis, Phillips, Onatolu, Senn
FS: Martin, Nakamura
SS: Godfrey, Smith
CB: Gamble, Norman, Munnerlyn, Butler, Hogan
P: Nortman
K: Medlock


If Hogan can't get on the field, Kearse will make the 53.
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The Special One
Aug 17 2012 12:29 AM
Looks like Roger Allen won't play tonight. Really hurts his chances of making the team as the backup OG. Mike Pollak and Zack Williams gonna get a chance to impress and possibly take his job.
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Herbert The Love Bug
Aug 17 2012 12:37 AM
I honestly think Josh Thomas makes it over Butler. Tutu gets cut and Gettis is given plenty of time to heal up.
I'm not ready to give up on Tutu. He's a nice red zone target and we need that.

Medlock won't make this team if he kicks it to the 10 yd line on kickoffs....(a la mr. Holliday in the preseason opener)

No excuse not to kick it into the end zone from the 35.


I haven't read this whole thread, so someone may have said this already but there is a very good excuse for him to not have kicked it into the end zone, the coaches probably told him not to.

The coaches know what the kickers can do on kickoffs as they see it in practice, not like a FG with having to do it against a live rush and with pressure. I'm sure in the preseason the coaches a lot of times ask them not to put it into the endzone so they can see how their coverage is doing. The reason it only made it to the 10 was probably because he accidentally took too much leg out of it and it came up very short.

I haven't read this whole thread, so someone may have said this already but there is a very good excuse for him to not have kicked it into the end zone, the coaches probably told him not to.

The coaches know what the kickers can do on kickoffs as they see it in practice, not like a FG with having to do it against a live rush and with pressure. I'm sure in the preseason the coaches a lot of times ask them not to put it into the endzone so they can see how their coverage is doing. The reason it only made it to the 10 was probably because he accidentally took too much leg out of it and it came up very short.


Season...end zone...touchback

Whoever kicks, make it happen lol
Injuries could play a huge role in who stays and who goes.
We would probably be surprised at seeing what our opening roster will be.

Cannot understand why Clausen is still on the team.
Did Adams have a lot of dropped catches in college?
He looked pretty good in his return.

I haven't read this whole thread, so someone may have said this already but there is a very good excuse for him to not have kicked it into the end zone, the coaches probably told him not to.

The coaches know what the kickers can do on kickoffs as they see it in practice, not like a FG with having to do it against a live rush and with pressure. I'm sure in the preseason the coaches a lot of times ask them not to put it into the endzone so they can see how their coverage is doing. The reason it only made it to the 10 was probably because he accidentally took too much leg out of it and it came up very short.


Good point imo.

Cannot understand why Clausen is still on the team.


His low salary (around 500k) saves him the spot this year I am afraight.