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Stephon Gilmore A True Option for Panthers


This corner is being seen more and more as a top 10 pick, and with the need at corner, and it being such a premium position in the NFL, he is a very likely candidate to be picked up at #9. I used to be a Coples guy, but with all the negative things coming out about him, with very little positive, I think Gilmore would be a solid contributor, while also being the safest pick. It would really help our sad secondary, and get us some takeaways.

Here is a link citing how many analysts and teams talk about how they think he is top 10 material

http://www.nfl.com/n..._headline_stack

I think the guy seems to have his head on straight, with some serious athletic ability.

It is also good to note, this guy is a returner as well. He helps us on multiple fronts. The more I read about this guy and watch him in games, the more I like him.


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Dash you dont watch the SEC and are making firm judgements...Im confused. i will not pretend to have seen Mychael Kendricks since I havent watched a down of ucla football in the last three yrs.

Ahh wait ... Such is the message board world.... I almost wanted real reasons from why you think he is not great at something.

He did have uneven moments..but he is an agressive tackler and has great ball skills to convert some pick 6s. His size, agility, and speed are rare and is worth a serious look. Dre Kirpatrick is a bump and run guy and struggles to turn and run.

Id expect Hogan to win the 2 spot and have either Dre or Gilmore learn if we went cb so either way..and Kirpatrick will be a good FS.


Not sure id call it "firm judgement". Rather just common sense.

Had Gilmore been an shut down CB in college WITH his measurable's (6ft+ 4.4 speed ect) he would have been a bonifide 1st round draft pick PRIOR to the combine.

Maybe im off here.... but a good part of the Gilmore hype is due to his combine numbers and not his college career.

One of my best friends is a die hard gamecock fan and he is indeferent about Gilmore saying he got burnt and was rather inconsistent.
Pretty sure Gilmore was predicted to be a 1st draft pick before the season....
OMG I would love Stephen Gilmore, in the 2nd
I don't like Gilmore at 9
Psst...Kirpatrick played a ton of zone. A Saban staple. Gilmore playes in a weird 3-3-5 defense. He was projected a first rounder than had an ok year so dropped to a late first early second and then is getting the hype bc his measurables are through the roof.

It seems no one viewed the video associated with the article where Lombardi breaks down both players.

Kirpatrick never shut down anyone either.. He made tackles and he is tall.

The main knock on Gilmore is not that he is bad at coverage, its more that he is inconsistent and inexperienced, with only three years playing CB at a high level. This, of course, will get better over time. I don't know if this means Gilmore or Dre, but I'm pretty sure that most NFL teams are looking at both of these guys if they are looking at CB.
I like Gilmore a lot. Would not be upset at all with him at 9th overall.

Gilmore is a reach at 9. If we trade back get more picks then I'm cool with Gilmore being the pick.

Also People need to forget Chandler Jones in the 2nd round. He won't be there.

People need to stop forgetting there are only 32 picks in the first round. Just because you designate someone a first round talent doesnt mean that he will go in the first 32 picks.

The main knock on Gilmore is not that he is bad at coverage, its more that he is inconsistent and inexperienced, with only three years playing CB at a high level. This, of course, will get better over time. I don't know if this means Gilmore or Dre, but I'm pretty sure that most NFL teams are looking at both of these guys if they are looking at CB.

Dont forget he is really young too. True Junior coming out.
ALL OF A SUDDEN!!!!!!!






Sorry.
He's not a reach at 9 anymore, he's considered the 2nd rated CB and some scouts are rating him very close to Claiborne. He'll actually probably be BPA at #9 and has easily moved himself into the top 10 on draft day. I'm not sure if Carolina makes the pick, but I wouldn't be upset about it. I'd rather have DL help though.
Reach is such an overused word in the 1st these days with the rookie pay scale the way it is.

A reach in the 1st is now taking a guy you can easily have in the late 2nd or early 3rd with a first round pick. It's not taking a guy that could be gone 6 spots later.

If they draft him, I'll be fine with it. He's only been a CB 3 years and is getting better.
Still not sure I want us to get a corner in the first though.

Reach is such an overused word in the 1st these days with the rookie pay scale the way it is.

A reach in the 1st is now taking a guy you can easily have in the late 2nd or early 3rd with a first round pick. It's not taking a guy that could be gone 6 spots later.

If they draft him, I'll be fine with it. He's only been a CB 3 years and is getting better.
Still not sure I want us to get a corner in the first though.

Reach is not an over used word when you take a player in the 1st rnd that may not immediately contribute. I don't even think Gilmore is better than Cap, so we can stop right there because we need a #2 CB.

Reach is not an over used word when you take a player in the 1st rnd that may not immediately contribute. I don't even think Gilmore is better than Cap, so we can stop right there because we need a #2 CB.

You're absolutely blind if you don't think Gilmore is better than Cap. They're nothing alike, and Gilmore was better in college, at the same one no less.
Gilmore has everything on Cap. Don't let fanboyism blind yourself, Gilmore would immediately be our solid #2.
You need to check your eyesight. I've seen Gilmore get burned numerous times and I don't think that he's better than Cap, nore do I want him as our #2. Janoris Jenkins is far better than Gilmor.
Gilmore's the only CB in this draft other than Claiborne I wouldn't have a problem with at 9.
Gilmore is the most physically gifted CB in this draft, he just has an issue with technique right now. He's also a student of the game and is a leader on the field. Capt isn't a starting caliber NFL CB nor does he have that ability, Gilmore however does have the ability to be a starter.

You need to check your eyesight. I've seen Gilmore get burned numerous times and I don't think that he's better than Cap, nore do I want him as our #2. Janoris Jenkins is far better than Gilmor.


Gilmore> Captain, its not really a debate....

Gilmore reminds me of one of the guys I played football with in high school, the guy decided not to play some FCS football, but he was our stud on our team. Gilmore reminds me of a swag player who can lead a secondary... He actually helped call the plays in his secondary.
If Stephon Gilmore is "truly" an option at #9 (lol),

Then what is Lance Lewis worth??


Lance Lewis is a WR out of ECU that took Stephon Gilmore to church in a head to head machup. Lance Lewis had 13 catches 108 yards and 2 TDs against South Carolina.

Game against South Carolina



Ya'll just take that in for a minute, and then apologize for even thinking he deserves to be in the top 10. Look at those fugging ball skills! EW!!!
We all have our opions but I don't think he's worthy of #9
Gilmore's perceived lack of performance is somewhat traceable to other factors:

1. Lorenzo Ward (his position coach at USC) is not a very good DB coach. The secondary, as a whole, was constantly out of position and just weren't well coached. For instance, in many of Gilmore's "lesser" moments during his sophomore year he was actually trying to play his man and make up for a missed assignment by a safety at the same time.

2. Although the USC defense has totaled a lot sacks over the past few years, our former defensive coordinator rarely, if ever, blitzed. QB's have a lot of time to throw against the USC defense and there's only so long that you can cover someone.

What I think is telling about Gilmore is he made a play at the end of the USC-NC State game 3 years ago that won the game. He was a true freshman in his first game and he broke up a pass in the endzone that would have won the game for NC State. He's fearless and he's aggressive, which I like.

I don't know if he's good enough to take at #9 but I like him better than Kirkpatrick. The best memory I have of Dre Kirkpatrick is getting abused by Alshon Jeffery.

Gilmore's perceived lack of performance is somewhat traceable to other factors:

1. Lorenzo Ward (his position coach at USC) is not a very good DB coach. The secondary, as a whole, was constantly out of position and just weren't well coached. For instance, in many of Gilmore's "lesser" moments during his sophomore year he was actually trying to play his man and make up for a missed assignment by a safety at the same time.

2. Although the USC defense has totaled a lot sacks over the past few years, our former defensive coordinator rarely, if ever, blitzed. QB's have a lot of time to throw against the USC defense and there's only so long that you can cover someone.

What I think is telling about Gilmore is he made a play at the end of the USC-NC State game 3 years ago that won the game. He was a true freshman in his first game and he broke up a pass in the endzone that would have won the game for NC State. He's fearless and he's aggressive, which I like.

I don't know if he's good enough to take at #9 but I like him better than Kirkpatrick. The best memory I have of Dre Kirkpatrick is getting abused by Alshon Jeffery.


And the excuses keep comin...

That's what happens when a prospect comes from a Carolina school. Half of these users like the Cocks.
Well, they were kind of blowing that team out.... I know when I played, I became less motivated when we were blowing out a team. That is all I can think of for that performance. He obviously has more talent than that, when he is shown against higher ranked teams with more talent.

And the excuses keep comin...

That's what happens when a prospect comes from a Carolina school. Half of these users like the Cocks.


My post doesn't advocate one way or another for him. Just providing information that I thought some mind find interesting. Of course I've only watched every single one of his games in college, so what do I know?

If we were drafting based off of school allegiance I'd rather have Ingram. But he's not what the Panthers need...

My post doesn't advocate one way or another for him. Just providing information that I thought some mind find interesting. Of course I've only watched every single one of his games in college, so what do I know?

If we were drafting based off of school allegiance I'd rather have Ingram. But he's not what the Panthers need...


I watch every USC game also and Gilmore is not an elite corner. USC has one of the best pass rushes in the country and Gilmore still got torched many times.

And the excuses keep comin...

That's what happens when a prospect comes from a Carolina school. Half of these users like the Cocks.


Information that would otherwise be unknown to people who don't follow the team as closely = excuses. Good logic there, bud.

What's the saying...obvious troll is obvious.

Edit: You're from LA. That explains a LOT.