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Ted Ginn joins the Panthers on a one-year deal

Mar 21 2013 04:06 PM Cam2Ligit2Quit Carolina Panthers
Former 49ers wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr. signed a one-year deal with the Carolina Panthers, ESPN reported Thursday, ending his three-year tenure in San Francisco.
Ginn had only two receptions in 2012 and ceded his kickoff-return duties to rookie LaMichael James late in the regular season, but he remained effective as a punt returner. He was 11th in the NFL in punt-return average (11.2 yards) after ranking fourth and third, respectively, the previous two seasons.
In the Super Bowl, Ginn's 32-yard third-quarter punt return set up a 20-yard touchdown drive in the midst of San Francisco's second-half rally.


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koolkatluke
Mar 23 2013 07:50 PM

You assume that if Getts drafts Austin, he'll want him returning kicks and punts full-time. That may not be the case since his frame is smaller than Smitty's.


I assume they would try every option they can to get the ball in his hands in the open field. No better way then PR/KR.

You can't blame the QB for bad route running and droppies that Ginn has been plague with.


Drops caused by bad throws.

Bad routes my ass.

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koolkatluke
Mar 23 2013 07:55 PM

Drops caused by bad throws.

Bad routes my ass.


Whatever dude you can't keep blaming everybody else for you not living up to your potential. He has to shoulder some of the blame.

He has never been a good route runner depending on his speed more then technique. And his hands were always suspect.

Every player we signed has been a starter at some point.

I find it difficult to believe you can actually blirt out its Rivera and Cam against the world? Evidently, with the tone you've set, you feel they will suck this year. And it is all Gettlemen's fault. Is there any reason or evidence for this wild statement?

Or you just trolling? Trying to get a rise from someone over the excitement that we got Dwan back, and signed a few FA? Cuz, i guess we didn't do what you thought we should? Or do you have a plan that could work, and are frustrated you have no way to implement it?

I am just curious? Because that is one extemely prevocative statement. All ye Debbie Downers unite. Long live the negativity.

Jimmy Clausen was a starter at one point....we still haven't brought in a legit FA to help a hole. That isn't being Debbie Downer...just a realist.

And yes, odds are VERY VERY high Rivera is in a do or die season . Again, just realistic.

And NO, repeat NO...I don't think they will suck. Cam Newton has just needed a play in a few games from someone....and we could easily been a 10 win team every season. 3rd year....Cam takes even more on his back. Cam will be that good. I believe in Cam....and he will be unstoppable soon. Rivera will put the ball in his hands

Ron yes, Cam no


false.

New HCs bring in there own QBs within 1-3 years pending they aren't a Superbowl QB.

GM isn't going to hire a new school HC. He already said what he believes...Ron was forced on him for a year

How are we going to make him something different as a WR than he has been the last few years?

I'd love to see it but I haven't seen the evidence.


With different players around him. Steve Smith, Greg Olsen and Cam Newton.

Steve Smith in 2010 was not the same WR. It was due to a weak cast of players around him. We thought he had lost a step, and maybe he did, but he's still one of the best in the NFL.

This will be Ginn's first opportunity to possibly play an extensive role in an offense that can chuck the ball all over the field. He didn't see that in Miami or early in SF.

3rd year....Cam takes even more on his back. Cam will be that good. I believe in Cam....and he will be unstoppable soon. Rivera will put the ball in his hands


I'd actually like to see Cam take a little less of the offense. Would love to see the running game (minus the QB) get going and open the offense up for Cam a little.
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koolkatluke
Mar 23 2013 08:16 PM

With different players around him. Steve Smith, Greg Olsen and Cam Newton.

Steve Smith in 2010 was not the same WR. It was due to a weak cast of players around him. We thought he had lost a step, and maybe he did, but he's still one of the best in the NFL.

This will be Ginn's first opportunity to possibly play an extensive role in an offense that can chuck the ball all over the field. He didn't see that in Miami or early in SF.


Some of you really need to lower your expectation. Just be happy with the KR/PR part and if he does anything on offense it's gravy.

I'd actually like to see Cam take a little less of the offense. Would love to see the running game (minus the QB) get going and open the offense up for Cam a little.


We need to address the OL-the only weakness Gettlemen has not touched yet, but I agree.

Whatever dude you can't keep blaming everybody else for you not living up to your potential. He has to shoulder some of the blame.



Tell that to Steve Smith.
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koolkatluke
Mar 23 2013 08:27 PM

Tell that to Steve Smith.


Now we are going to compare his situation to Steve Smith really???

Just don't get your hopes up to high.

Now we are going to compare his situation to Steve Smith really???

Just don't get your hopes up to high.


Koolkat, I don't think anyone believes Ginn is gonna come in and be gangbusters this year as a WR. Most still want a WR in the first 2 rounds. But the truth is the kid can flat out fly. And if you line Ginn outside one on one, any CB in the league will have a hard time keeping up with him. Not that Rivera will use him that way, but if he did, a DC would have to account for that.

But like you said, he'll improve the return game from day one. I'll take that any day.

He'll be better than the crop of shitty return guys we have now, but people expecting him to be a good WR make me laugh


At this point..........not expectations...but rather hope.

Ginn said he wanted the chance to play WR...and not be just a return guy. Have to think he was told he would get that chance here. Hope he can make the best of it. Good thing is that his motivation is likely high. If that does not work out...we still have upgraded the return game.
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koolkatluke
Mar 23 2013 08:41 PM

Koolkat, I don't think anyone believes Ginn is gonna come in and be gangbusters this year as a WR. Most still want a WR in the first 2 rounds. But the truth is the kid can flat out fly. And if you line Ginn outside one on one, any CB in the league will have a hard time keeping up with him. Not that Rivera will use him that way, but if he did, a DC would have to account for that.

But like you said, he'll improve the return game from day one. I'll take that any day.


I disagree. I think some people here think he has been waiting 5 years to have a Breakout season and now it will happen.

We need to address the OL-the only weakness Gettlemen has not touched yet, but I agree.


And the biggest weakness in my opinion. The guard position killed the offense last year. But Amini did get better towards the end of the season, so I'm cautiously optimistic about LG. RG needs to be upgraded. If not in FA, then I'd use a first or second. Gettleman can not go into next year with the same guys at RG. Every other offseason move on offense won't matter.

And the biggest weakness in my opinion. The guard position killed the offense last year. But Amini did get better towards the end of the season, so I'm cautiously optimistic about LG. RG needs to be upgraded. If not in FA, then I'd use a first or second. Gettleman can not go into next year with the same guys at RG. Every other offseason move on offense won't matter.

if I'm not mistaken, he did add to the ol. I don't know how everyone can think all needs can be addressed during fa. Like Mike Tyson says "this is ludicrous".

false.

New HCs bring in there own QBs within 1-3 years pending they aren't a Superbowl QB.


GM isn't going to hire a new school HC. He already said what he believes...Ron was forced on him for a year


LMAO! This franchise will move before that happens. In no way is that the norm.

Rivers is still the QB for the Chargers and is on his third coach, Alex Smith hung around forever with the Niners with all those coaches, Bradford is still the Qb for the Rams. Tony Romo is still the Qb for the Cowboys.

New coaches go get their own guys simply because the guy they already have isnt getting it done or is approaching the end of their contract and hasnt shown to be the guy for the future. Most importantly it isnt even their call its the GMs. Josh Freeman is a perfect example.

I disagree. I think some people here think he has been waiting 5 years to have a Breakout season and now it will happen.


May be more of homer optimism, rather than realistic expectations.

Is it possible? Of course. Is it likely? Not really. My desire is that he forces defenses to respect the deep route with help over the top. That should allow Smitty to continue to work underneath along with Olsen.

if I'm not mistaken, he did add to the ol. I don't know how everyone can think all needs can be addressed during fa. Like Mike Tyson says "this is ludicrous".


Didn't say it had to be FA. But, it has to be addressed. What's there now caused a lot of problems last year.

Yeah I wouldn't ink him in as the 3rd WR yet.


you have got to be kidding me? please tell me who the #3 reciever is then

you have got to be kidding me? please tell me who the #3 reciever is then


We still got Gettis and Pilares until further notice and Bryant will be entering the line up this upcoming season.
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koolkatluke
Mar 23 2013 09:55 PM

We still got Gettis and Pilares until further notice and Bryant will be entering the line up this upcoming season.?


And Adams. And we still might draft a Wr.

And Adams. And we still might draft a Wr.


Exactly. Ginn came to the wrong team if he expected playing time. If he somehow beats out Pilares, Gettis, and Bryant, then he's earned the third spot but Ginn, as of right now, has stiff competition for #3.

Is it possible? Of course. Is it likely? Not really. My desire is that he forces defenses to respect the deep route with help over the top. That should allow Smitty to continue to work underneath along with Olsen.


Even if he drops 5 out of 10 teams will have to respect the big play and he will likely draw two defenders. Using him as a distraction should help the passing game.
I don't get it, Gettleman is improving this team from the bottom up and people still complain?