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The Next GM

Oct 23 2012 03:26 AM Mr. Scot Carolina Panthers
Guess it’s that time again :unsure:

Now truthfully, there’s plenty of time between now and next season, so a lot can happen. There are a load of possibilities here and frankly, not a lot of clues as to what direction the team might go. Throw in that front office contracts aren't generally publicized and titles vary from team to team, so it's kind of a crapshoot determining who might realistically be a candidate and who might not.

Still, the identity of next GM will likely be one of the hottest - if not the hottest - discussion topics of the season, so why not get an early start, right?

To begin, here's a list of potential candidates. Just so I'm clear, not all of these are names that I would endorse, but they are people who I'd consider possible options. Some have been discussed here before, a few more so than others.

Names that seem to be getting the most discussion so far...

Eric DeCosta - Assistant General Manager, Baltimore Ravens
Marc Ross - Director of College Scouting, New York Giants
Nick Caserio - Director of Player Personnel, New England Patriots


Other possibilities...

Omar Khan - Director of Football and Business Administration, Pittsburgh Steelers
Russ Ball - Vice President of Football Administration and Player Finance, Green Bay Packers
Doug Whaley - Assistant General Manager / Director of Pro Personnel, Buffalo Bills
Kevin Abrams - Assistant General Manager, New York Giants
Floyd Reese - Senior Football Advisor, New England Patriots
Lake Dawson - Vice President of Player Personnel, Tennessee Titans
Eliot Wolf - Director of Pro Personnel, Green Bay Packers
Ed McGuire - Assistant General manager / Executive Vice President of Football Operations, San Diego Chargers
Jimmy Raye - Director of Player Personnel, San Diego Chargers
Scott McCloughan - Senior Personnel Executive, Seattle Seahawks
Tom Donahoe - Senior Football Advisor, Philadelphia Eagles
Pat Moriarty - Vice President of Football Administration, Baltimore Ravens
Tom Gamble - Director of Player Personnel, 49ers
Randy Mueller - Senior Executive, San Diego Chargers
Dennis Hickey - Director of Player Personnel, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tim Ruskell - College Scout, Tennessee Titans
George Kokinis - Senior Personnel assistant, Baltimore Ravens
Vincent Newsome - Director of Pro Personnel, Baltimore Ravens
Brian Gardner - Director of Pro Personnel, Houston Texans
Will Lewis - Former Vice President of Player Personnel, Seattle Seahawks
Tom Heckert - General Manager, Cleveland Browns


Open to other names being thrown into the mix, but this is my starting list. I plan to research these and add info/links as I have opportunity. As mentioned, nothing definitive is likely to happen before season's end, so there's time to look around.

Here we go.

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One other thing...

Gettleman was apparently a candidate for the Chiefs GM job that ultimately went to Scott Pioli. He was also a candidate for the Browns GM position before they hired George Kokinis (bet they'd like a do-over on that).

The most interesting part: The Browns were using a consultant to guide the GM search. The consultant recommended Gettleman be interviewed.

Three guesses who the consultant was...

(Hint here)
Someone that I think Accorsi could definitely take a look at for us is Scott Fitterer from Seattle. He was with the giants from 98-00 and has been with Seattle since 01. He may be staying pat out west though but an interesting name to throw in.

Speaking of structure, check out this quote...



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Think we have anybody on staff who could do that?

That's a sign of a winning organization.

And who knows? This guy Shauger might make a good Director of Pro Personnel.

that would be awesome.

if we raid the giants staff, i wouldn't mind him being among the booty we steal.

stuff like that is what puts you just a bit over the top.

That's the short version. Click to get the expanded version and you'll find he started in the league as a college scout and continued in that capacity for 13 years or so. He's worked at both levels. No indication he's worked with the cap though (outside shot he brings Kevin Abrams with him).


I want a proven talent evaluator. Knowing how to spot good young players that will fit your vision is much more difficult than managing the cap. Cap management is largely a mechanical exercise with numbers. Frankly, any accountant worth his or her salt could probably do a fine job with that part of the job. Throw in a good lawyer to help with negotiations and contract legalese, and you're covered.

Does anyone really believe that it was naivete on the part of our cap guy that resulted in us signing all those excessive contracts last year? Marty and JR decided they were going to pay whatever it took to keep our "core" and then gave marching orders to Rogers.

Give me the best football guy we can find and fill in the blanks if he is lacking in the cap area.

Also of note: GM Jerry Reese refers to Gettleman as a mentor.

i found this interesting as well, when doing some research on him.been looking at what i can find on Omar Khan.
I'm guessing it will be Marc Ross, or he'll be our first choice given Accorsi's involvement.

Not sure who else Accorsi has helped place, but Reese was his apprentice and he had ties to Dimitroff from his days in Cleveland. This makes me think that the GM will be someone who has at one time or another been directly associated with Accorsi.

Mr. Scot, what other candidates on this list have some sort of direct association with Accorsi?

I'm guessing it will be Marc Ross, or he'll be our first choice given Accorsi's involvement.

Not sure who else Accorsi has helped place, but Reese was his apprentice and he had ties to Dimitroff from his days in Cleveland. This makes me think that the GM will be someone who has at one time or another been directly associated with Accorsi.

Mr. Scot, what other candidates on this list have some sort of direct association with Accorsi?


Kevin Abrams, the Giants assistant GM.

I think there's at least one or two more, but I don't remember off the top of my head and I'm not where I could look it up.
I already told y'all who your next GM should be!

http://www.carolinah...nthers-next-gm/

Jim Popp! Colts looked him hard!

Trust me, I was "Sport Talk!"

He will be better than when you guys had Bill Polian! (And if Polian hadn't clashed with Jerry "Jones" Richardson, he would have built you a Super Bowl contender!)
I got a feeling there are too many qualified NFL guys for a CFL guy to get a shot. Sorry man.

I got a feeling there are too many qualified NFL guys for a CFL guy to get a shot. Sorry man.

i think he's overrating polian as well.
this tweet was kind of interesting...

RosinskiBill
Talked to NFL scout last night at UVa-UNC game and asked about Panthers search for GM. Said to look at Giants organization for two possibles

this tweet was kind of interesting...


Could mean Ross, Gettleman or Abrams. Maybe even a name we haven't considered yet.

Could mean Ross, Gettleman or Abrams. Maybe even a name we haven't considered yet.


Or the scout may just be making the same logical assumptions we are...that with Acorsi heading the search, a Giant front office guy would be the most likely.

Or the scout may just be making the same logical assumptions we are...that with Acorsi heading the search, a Giant front office guy would be the most likely.


Thought of that. What makes me think he has names in mind is that he mentioned a specific number.

If he'd just said "someone from the Giants" I'd have said he was guessing.
wonder if the next GM will keep rivera

Or the scout may just be making the same logical assumptions we are...that with Acorsi heading the search, a Giant front office guy would be the most likely.

yep.

seems like the obvious conclusions. a guy most familiar with the giants would pick someone from the giants.

one thing that is interesting to me, though, is that you choose a consultant from an organization probably with the understanding that he will probably be choosing from the pool he's most familiar with.

although...that's not quite what happened with the falcons. i mean there were probably some connections with dimitroff from the time accorsi was with the browns (early 90's) but beyond that i'm not sure there was a whole lot of crossing of paths.

accorsi went for a guy with a solid background in scouting, but not one with typical GM experience, esp. in working with the cap.

the sales job that accorsi delivered blank for dimitroff was kind of funny...

Dimitroff was hired on the recommendation of former NFL executive Ernie Accorsi, who was enamored with his knack for evaluating talent even though he didn't exactly fit the mold of the typical general manager.

"Ernie said to me, 'There's this guy with New England. He actually lives in Boulder, Colorado, and he's the typical Boulder guy. He's got long hair, and he rides a bike, and he eats a lot of weird food,'" Blank recalled, chuckling.

Thought of that. What makes me think he has names in mind is that he mentioned a specific number.

If he'd just said "someone from the Giants" I'd have said he was guessing.

yeah, the thing that has me thinking that it just might be someone from the giants is that accorsi apparently is looking at people from winning programs, like the patriots in the case of dimitroff.

the giants are one of the best/most successful teams out there in spite of how things look this year. it wouldn't surprise me at all to see someone from the giants or the patriots or even the ravens be the choice.

one thing i thought of, though...not only is accorsi going to be influencing and, in effect, selling richardson on a canidate, but he's also going to be selling the candidate on carolina. he is essentially a salesperson/representative of the panthers and may give the organization more clout when trying to recruit not only a GM but a HC. accorsi is very well respected throughout the league so that will help, but it will also help in that it shows we are taking this rebuild seriously.

accorsi went for a guy with a solid background in scouting, but not one with typical GM experience, esp. in working with the cap.


That is very encouraging to me. Hopefully, that is the way he leans.
Just making a guess I think it will be Marc Ross or Kevin Abrams. I think the Giants will try their best to keep Gettleman because all the work he does. But we will see.
Say we hire Abrams or Ross. What would be your thoughts if he brings in another former DC as HC in Perry Fewell?

Say we hire Abrams or Ross. What would be your thoughts if he brings in another former DC as HC in Perry Fewell?

honestly i'd be disappointed in a "oh crap. here we go again. we are the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again hoping for different results" kind of way.

i'd be slightly more open to it, though, because of having new blood @ GM.
David Gettleman is about 10 years too old for the job in my opinion.

Say we hire Abrams or Ross. What would be your thoughts if he brings in another former DC as HC in Perry Fewell?


I couldn't deal with it. I might just commit suicide.
I have no problem hiring a defensive coach as a HC. To me what makes a HC good is not necessarily their specific expertise in the game but their management, game planning, delegation, and situational football acumen.

If you look around the league you will see that there is very little to no correlation that shows a defensive coach inhibits an offense. 4 of the top 5 offenses are lead by defensive coaches.

That being said I don't see an older guy like Fewell getting a look here or anywhere. I think they look for some young blood.
Marc Ross has been getting the interviews, very curious as to why he hasn't landed a job to this point. Im very intrigued and curious.