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The Next GM

Oct 23 2012 03:26 AM Mr. Scot Carolina Panthers
Guess it’s that time again :unsure:

Now truthfully, there’s plenty of time between now and next season, so a lot can happen. There are a load of possibilities here and frankly, not a lot of clues as to what direction the team might go. Throw in that front office contracts aren't generally publicized and titles vary from team to team, so it's kind of a crapshoot determining who might realistically be a candidate and who might not.

Still, the identity of next GM will likely be one of the hottest - if not the hottest - discussion topics of the season, so why not get an early start, right?

To begin, here's a list of potential candidates. Just so I'm clear, not all of these are names that I would endorse, but they are people who I'd consider possible options. Some have been discussed here before, a few more so than others.

Names that seem to be getting the most discussion so far...

Eric DeCosta - Assistant General Manager, Baltimore Ravens
Marc Ross - Director of College Scouting, New York Giants
Nick Caserio - Director of Player Personnel, New England Patriots


Other possibilities...

Omar Khan - Director of Football and Business Administration, Pittsburgh Steelers
Russ Ball - Vice President of Football Administration and Player Finance, Green Bay Packers
Doug Whaley - Assistant General Manager / Director of Pro Personnel, Buffalo Bills
Kevin Abrams - Assistant General Manager, New York Giants
Floyd Reese - Senior Football Advisor, New England Patriots
Lake Dawson - Vice President of Player Personnel, Tennessee Titans
Eliot Wolf - Director of Pro Personnel, Green Bay Packers
Ed McGuire - Assistant General manager / Executive Vice President of Football Operations, San Diego Chargers
Jimmy Raye - Director of Player Personnel, San Diego Chargers
Scott McCloughan - Senior Personnel Executive, Seattle Seahawks
Tom Donahoe - Senior Football Advisor, Philadelphia Eagles
Pat Moriarty - Vice President of Football Administration, Baltimore Ravens
Tom Gamble - Director of Player Personnel, 49ers
Randy Mueller - Senior Executive, San Diego Chargers
Dennis Hickey - Director of Player Personnel, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tim Ruskell - College Scout, Tennessee Titans
George Kokinis - Senior Personnel assistant, Baltimore Ravens
Vincent Newsome - Director of Pro Personnel, Baltimore Ravens
Brian Gardner - Director of Pro Personnel, Houston Texans
Will Lewis - Former Vice President of Player Personnel, Seattle Seahawks
Tom Heckert - General Manager, Cleveland Browns


Open to other names being thrown into the mix, but this is my starting list. I plan to research these and add info/links as I have opportunity. As mentioned, nothing definitive is likely to happen before season's end, so there's time to look around.

Here we go.

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Honestly I was afraid we wouldn't even have a consultant hired before the very end of the season. Thankfully I was wrong about that.

Since Accorsi's entire function will be to assess the organization and make recommendations, and we brought him in relatively quickly, I'm not really as afraid that we'll dick around and not make a decision until it's too late any longer.

The thought is still hanging around in the back of my mind but I'm far less concerned about it than I was.


I was extremely relieved when the news of the Accorsi hire broke, not just that it was done but for who it was. Have a lot more confidence now that this thing gets done right.

From what I understand, Accorsi will not just be looking at GM candidates, but looking at the organization as a whole and suggesting changes. My hope is that he suggests plenty.
Weird little oddity I found.

Searching for photos of Omar Khan online (next profile I have planned) found some photos misidentifying Steelers GM Kevin Colbert as Khan. Weird in that the two look pretty much nothing alike.

The main source for the error appears to be Bleacher Report.

Absolutely right. The day the season is over we should have our interviews set up and a decision within a few days after.


Agreed they should move quickly. Especially given that there's likely to be competition for whomever they target.

(would have responded to this post sooner but missed it last night; sorry)
Hey scot you should do a profile soon for Dave Gettleman, pro personnel guy for the giants,

http://wp.me/p14QSB-6oNh

[q]As Gantt pointed out several days ago, the Panthers have hired former Giants G.M. Ernie Accorsi to help find the franchise’s next General Manager.

The decision that Accorsi makes will resonate through the organization, both now and in the future.

Some think Accorsi will push Giants executive Dave Gettleman for the job, given their past working relationship in New York. Another source believes Accorsi will set aside his relationships and recommend the person whom Accorsi views as best suited for the job, given its specific dynamics and requirements.[/q]

I know it's purely speculation but he still seems like an interesting(and qualified) candidate

Hey scot you should do a profile soon for Dave Gettleman, pro personnel guy for the giants,

http://wp.me/p14QSB-6oNh

As Gantt pointed out several days ago, the Panthers have hired former Giants G.M. Ernie Accorsi to help find the franchise’s next General Manager.

The decision that Accorsi makes will resonate through the organization, both now and in the future.

Some think Accorsi will push Giants executive Dave Gettleman for the job, given their past working relationship in New York. Another source believes Accorsi will set aside his relationships and recommend the person whom Accorsi views as best suited for the job, given its specific dynamics and requirements.


I know it's purely speculation but he still seems like an interesting(and qualified) candidate

Hey scot you should do a profile soon for Dave Gettleman, pro personnel guy for the giants,

http://wp.me/p14QSB-6oNh

[q]As Gantt pointed out several days ago, the Panthers have hired former Giants G.M. Ernie Accorsi to help find the franchise’s next General Manager.

The decision that Accorsi makes will resonate through the organization, both now and in the future.

Some think Accorsi will push Giants executive Dave Gettleman for the job, given their past working relationship in New York. Another source believes Accorsi will set aside his relationships and recommend the person whom Accorsi views as best suited for the job, given its specific dynamics and requirements.[/b]

I know it's purely speculation but he still seems like an interesting(and qualified) candidate


Yeah, just read that. I may research him next rather than Khan.
Sh*t double post my bad I hate the mobile version of the huddle lol, but yeah he might be a better option than Ross IMO but we'll see

Sh*t double post my bad I hate the mobile version of the huddle lol, but yeah he might be a better option than Ross IMO but we'll see


I tend to favor college scouting guys over pro personnel guys, but yeah, he'd have a shot as well.

Joe Person for GM


Dosen't he own the Bobcats? No thats another guy.. A basketball man or something..

I tend to favor college scouting guys over pro personnel guys, but yeah, he'd have a shot as well.



I agree with you on this. Dave Gettleman seems like he can be a good prospect but being Senior Pro Personnel he doesn't even travel with the scout team anymore. His job duties is to grade scout team practice guys and unrestricted free agents. I kind of want someone who scouts college guys well.
Dave Gettleman bio from the Giants site

Dave Gettleman is in his 25th season in the NFL, his 15th with the Giants and his first as Senior Pro Personnel Analyst. He spent the previous 13 years as the Director of Pro Personnel. Gettleman joined the Giants in the spring of 1998 as then-director Tim Rooney’s assistant. He was promoted to Pro Personnel Director in the spring of 1999 upon Rooney’s retirement.
Gettleman has been a part of six Super Bowl teams, including three winners. He was with Buffalo in 1990 and 1991, Denver in 1997 and the Giants in 2000, 2007 and 2011. The Broncos and the 2007 and 2011 Giants both won the championship. Gettleman has been associated with 13 playoff teams in his NFL career.


http://www.giants.co...35-aecea77aa9cb
Sounds like a winner but I like my GMs to be from networks... im hiring Michael Lombardi.

Curious real question... Will the next GM get a three year pass or will the huddle want to fire.com him after halftime of Game1 of preseason?
I want a great talent evaluator either way. Someone who would bring in a successful OC for coach would also be ideal. I'm tired of being behind the rest of the league schematically. We need some legit coaching that our guys will respect.

I want a great talent evaluator either way. Someone who would bring in a successful OC for coach would also be ideal. I'm tired of being behind the rest of the league schematically. We need some legit coaching that our guys will respect.


The only way to get that coaching is to bring guys in with strong personalities.

Sounds like a winner but I like my GMs to be from networks... im hiring Michael Lombardi.

Curious real question... Will the next GM get a three year pass or will the huddle want to fire.com him after halftime of Game1 of preseason?

first draft day.

if he doesn't go by mel kipers draft board i say we fire him on the spot.
not at all serious, btw.

first draft day.

if he doesn't go by mel kipers draft board i say we fire him on the spot.


lol!

Dave Gettleman bio from the Giants site

http://www.giants.co...35-aecea77aa9cb


That's the short version. Click to get the expanded version and you'll find he started in the league as a college scout and continued in that capacity for 13 years or so. He's worked at both levels. No indication he's worked with the cap though (outside shot he brings Kevin Abrams with him).

Might take some effort to dig up more. Cursory web search on him didn't produce much outside his team bio.

Definitely worth a look, but with the source being Florio, also worth a grain of salt.
the more i think about it, the more i want us to bring in a personnel guy and a cap guy. of course i don't have to pay for two people to do what should be one man's job, either.

one thing is clear to me...if jerry wants this team to be a winner and to get him a lombardi before he dies, he's gonna have to open up that check book. that means hiring two people that are great at their job rather than one guy who is good (hopefully) at both.

that also applies to the HC job. gonna have to spend to get someone we can trust to get things turned around.

the more i think about it, the more i want us to bring in a personnel guy and a cap guy. of course i don't have to pay for two people to do what should be one man's job, either.

one thing is clear to me...if jerry wants this team to be a winner and to get him a lombardi before he dies, he's gonna have to open up that check book. that means hiring two people that are great at their job rather than one guy who is good (hopefully) at both.

that also applies to the HC job. gonna have to spend to get someone we can trust to get things turned around.


I'd agree. And I'd also look at replacing some of the entrenched people.
Will say this. Gettleman doesn't fit the "young guy" idea that Yasinskas floated, but he's been part of more success than Jerry Richardson has ever seen with the Panthers and has scouted at both the college and pro levels.

Interesting, to say the least.
Switched from my iPad to my PC and found search was way more productive.

One tidbit. Just this past year, the Giants cut down on his duties. He was also scouting opponents as well as personnel. They gave him a different title and asked him to focus on personnel only.

A GM with experience scouting opponents is intriguing.

Also of note: GM Jerry Reese refers to Gettleman as a mentor.

I'd agree. And I'd also look at replacing some of the entrenched people.

no sacred cows.

i have no problem with keeping effective people around.

and no, just being part of a losing culture doesn't mean one isn't good at his job, but it also makes it hard to distinguish the good from the bad.

i remember hearing that after the 2010 season, aside from don gregory the whole college scouting department was rebuilt. it was one of those "quiet" rebuilds. if that is the case, i would have no problem keeping that staff around just based on what they did this last year.

Switched from my iPad to my PC and found search was way more productive.

One tidbit. Just this past year, the Giants cut down on his duties. He was also scouting opponents as well as personnel. They gave him a different title and asked him to focus on personnel only.

A GM with experience scouting opponents is intriguing.

Also of note: GM Jerry Reese refers to Gettleman as a mentor.

i think that could be a useful element.

no sacred cows.

i have no problem with keeping effective people around.

and no, just being part of a losing culture doesn't mean one isn't good at his job, but it also makes it hard to distinguish the good from the bad.

i remember hearing that after the 2010 season, aside from don gregory the whole college scouting department was rebuilt. it was one of those "quiet" rebuilds. if that is the case, i would have no problem keeping that staff around just based on what they did this last year.


Speaking of structure, check out this quote...

Early last week, pro scout Matt Shauger, who scouted the Patriots and Ravens in the AFC Championship Game, delivered a 125-page report to Tom Coughlin and staff that provided the template for the Giants’ game plan on Sunday. The cover of the report read: New England Patriots Super Bowl XLVI February 5, 2012 Rosters Depth Charts Injuries Notes.

The report includes matchup advantages and matchup disadvantages, as well as tendencies. “It’s a very thorough document for the coaches to give them a starting point for their preparation, but it’s not X’s and O’s-oriented as much as it is player-evaluation oriented,” Gettleman said.


(link)

Think we have anybody on staff who could do that?

That's a sign of a winning organization.

And who knows? This guy Shauger might make a good Director of Pro Personnel.