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Behind Enemy Lines - St Louis Rams

Oct 17 2013 05:36 AM Zod Carolina Panthers
The Panthers host the St Louis Rams on Sunday in what could be a turning point in the season. Getting the team to 500 with the prospect of playing a struggling Tampa Bay team next week should have the players and coaches excited.

We could be one week away from the first winning record in over 3 seasons.

But before we get ahead of ourselves, there are the Rams. Here are the story lines from St Louis...

Quintin Mikell had a conference call with St Louis reporters....From St Louis Today

As for facing his former coaches and teammates in the Rams, Mikell concedes: “Obviously, whenever you get to go against your former team, it’s always so good. And you get excited to show ’em what you still have. So I definitely am motivated. Not more than any other week, but it’s just a different type of motivation this week.


Mikell spent the last two seasons with the Rams and was let go solely for salary cap reasons. The team and coaches concede he is still a good player.

"He’s helping their defense,” Fisher said Wednesday.

"He’s still playing at a pretty high level,” quarterback Sam Bradford added.


Mikell has familiarity with Sam Bradford and the Rams offense and should be a big asset to the Panthers this week. Panthers Defensive Coordinator Sean McDermott and Mikell have a longer history, dating back to Philadelphia. I think it is a safe bet that Mikell had been in Sean's ear all week long.

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The Rams are excited about rookie linebacker Alec Ogletree

“He’s running sideline to sideline, and he’s making a lot of plays for us,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. “I think his interception on Sunday was evidence he’s preparing, studying.”

Ogletree, 22, leads the team in tackles (46) and forced fumbles (three).


Ogletree was the 30th pick in the 2013 draft. While the former Bulldog has shown some promise, his PFF scores are up and down. Playing against TJ Yates has given him some confidence, but facing Cam Newton is a different matter.

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With the St Louis Cardinals leading the NLCS against the Dodgers 3-2, I am really not all too sure that the Rams are on the radar under the great arch. Decent local stories are few and far between featuring the Rams.

Can't say that I blame them, I can remember how exciting it is to have a professional sports playoff team. Would be nice, wouldn't it?

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No Zod. You cannot acknowledge the talent on our team and the prospect of us winning because Ron. Regardless if you acknowledge it all hinges on Rivera.

At least according to the huddle.

This will be an interesting game. We have the change to get to .500 with Tampa coming up on thursday. I want to see this team come out motiviated and execute the plays that we need. If our Offense shows up, I believe that we will win by two scores. No more Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde anymore. It is time to make that run.

Shula needs to get the ground game going early.. No more opening drives with 3 passes out of shotgun.

Shula needs to get the ground game going early.. No more opening drives with 3 passes out of shotgun.

Why? 

 

Those are the only drives we have opened games up with points.

This is going to be a tough game and it scares me. The rams have a legit D regardless of their stats. And the dink and dunk O is our weakness. I think it's gonna be close. And that scares me even more. If we can squeek out a win. The rest of the season looks bright.

Gotta be a sense of urgency .500, one third (officially 3/8 for the nitpickers) of the way through the season is far better than being 2 games under .500.  

 

I think our guys will be focused.  The ones that need to be focused are the coaches.   Our players are ready to explode.  Rivera,Shula and McDermott need to be ready to make adjustments and stay in the game if things aren't going as originally planned.

 

If you noticed our two wins have come when the game plan we started with was the one we finished with.  

 

This season will be won or lost by our coaches.  Not so much the players.

This is going to be a tough game and it scares me. The rams have a legit D regardless of their stats. And the dink and dunk O is our weakness. I think it's gonna be close. And that scares me even more. If we can squeek out a win. The rest of the season looks bright.

yep, Buffalo, St. Louis and NE are the toughest matchups for our D IMO.  

 

Rams D stinks.  If we can run and stay out of 3rd and long....I don't think they can stop our O.  Our offense gets in trouble when we get behind in the chains.  Consistent 3rd and longs vs a team that can bring pressure has been a problem every year

Gotta be a sense of urgency .500, one third (officially 3/8 for the nitpickers) of the way through the season is far better than being 2 games under .500.  

 

I think our guys will be focused.  The ones that need to be focused are the coaches.   Our players are ready to explode.  Rivera,Shula and McDermott need to be ready to make adjustments and stay in the game if things aren't going as originally planned.

 

If you noticed our two wins have come when the game plan we started with was the one we finished with.  

 

This season will be won or lost by our coaches.  Not so much the players.

 I think our losses to date have been more on players than coaches.

 

AZ for example, great gameplan early players didn't execute....so let's say the coaches change late and come up with something else that works. Wildcard is still players there.

 

Gameplan was also strong against Seattle.  Good defensively and offensively.  Players needed to step up....coaches had them in good position.

Why? 

 

Those are the only drives we have opened games up with points.

 

Good point.

 I think our losses to date have been more on players than coaches.

 

AZ for example, great gameplan early players didn't execute....so let's say the coaches change late and come up with something else that works. Wildcard is still players there.

 

Gameplan was also strong against Seattle.  Good defensively and offensively.  Players needed to step up....coaches had them in good position.

 

Seattle game was player error for the most part. I would agree to that. 

 

Buffalo was a mess.  And after Arizona made half time adjustments we lost the game.  We had no answer and no reply to Arizona.  That is on the coaches.

Seattle game was player error for the most part. I would agree to that. 

 

Buffalo was a mess.  And after Arizona made half time adjustments we lost the game.  We had no answer and no reply to Arizona.  That is on the coaches.

 

But again with AZ...coaches had a great gameplan to open offensively and defensively....players didn't execute.  We should of been up.  Coaches could of adjusted in the 2nd half more, but the players had already been proven to be a wildcard that couldn't even do gimmie stuff when put in easy scenarios.  It should of been one of those games we rolled and played from a huge lead.

 

Buffalo is the only game I put on coaches.   1 loss coaches, 2 losses players IMO.  Coaching hasn't been as bad as some have advertised IMO.  There has been a lot of slop our players have done when put in good position this year to win games

But again with AZ...coaches had a great gameplan to open offensively and defensively....players didn't execute.  We should of been up.  Coaches could of adjusted in the 2nd half more, but the players had already been proven to be a wildcard that couldn't even do gimmie stuff when put in easy scenarios.  It should of been one of those games we rolled and played from a huge lead.

 

Buffalo is the only game I put on coaches.   1 loss coaches, 2 losses players IMO.  Coaching hasn't been as bad as some have advertised IMO.  There has been a lot of slop our players have done when put in good position this year to win games

i think the cards was on the players and coaches equally. nobody gets off the hook that game. the cards adjusted, but we failed to adjust to their adjustments and the players just started playing like poo.

Why? 

 

Those are the only drives we have opened games up with points.

 

I'm fine with the shotgun as long as we don't run out of it every damn time. That is infuriating.

I'm fine with the shotgun as long as we don't run out of it every damn time. That is infuriating.

I think their goal is to get Newton flowing early....those looks give him the most potential

yep, Buffalo, St. Louis and NE are the toughest matchups for our D IMO.  

 

Rams D stinks.  If we can run and stay out of 3rd and long....I don't think they can stop our O.  Our offense gets in trouble when we get behind in the chains.  Consistent 3rd and longs vs a team that can bring pressure has been a problem every year

 

brockers and quinn scare the poo out of me. for some reason i'm not as worried about long.  O-line plays well we will win.

 

Cortland Finnegan's cap hit this year is $15m. Throwing at him through six weeks is yielding a perfect QB rating - 158.3

 
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If the Panthers play smart (no turnovers, few penalties), I don't see the Rams winning this one.

I do expect Fisher to fake FG, fake punt, or something.....he always seemed to do it against the Panthers when he was at Tenn.

 

Z.Stacey is a capable back who does fall forward for those extra yards. But some of that mess last week was an awful game by the Texans. Personal fouls, offsides/encroachments.....Texans had almost 100yds of penalties in the first half. And my complaint about the Texans D....you have JJWatt and NO ONE ELSE on your Dline or outside linebackers can get any consistent pressure.

 

btw....Rams fans....Jeff Fisher owns the Texans....he's only lost to them 3 or 4 times during his entire tenure at Tenn, IIRC.

 

 

But again with AZ...coaches had a great gameplan to open offensively and defensively....players didn't execute.  We should of been up.  Coaches could of adjusted in the 2nd half more, but the players had already been proven to be a wildcard that couldn't even do gimmie stuff when put in easy scenarios.  It should of been one of those games we rolled and played from a huge lead.

 

Buffalo is the only game I put on coaches.   1 loss coaches, 2 losses players IMO.  Coaching hasn't been as bad as some have advertised IMO.  There has been a lot of slop our players have done when put in good position this year to win games

 

We were still up at half time of the Arizona game.  They came out and shut us out.  We never alter our game plan in the second half.  The had an answer for everything we tried.  You think that was all execution?  Had our coaches (Rivera and Shula) to be exact.  Had done some half time adjustment and even in game adjustments.  We could have won that game.  They didn't and we lost.  

 

Sure the end didn't help when we started pressing to score and only gave them more points.   Had we made adjustments to how they were playing us we would have done better.

 

I put it opposite of you 1 for the players 2 on the coaches.

 

We haven't won a close one yet.  \if the game plan is good we win, if it isn't a good game plan then we struggle.  That is on the coaches especially OC and \\\HC,

We were still up at half time of the Arizona game.  They came out and shut us out.  We never alter our game plan in the second half.  The had an answer for everything we tried.  You think that was all execution?  Had our coaches (Rivera and Shula) to be exact.  Had done some half time adjustment and even in game adjustments.  We could have won that game.  They didn't and we lost.  

 

Sure the end didn't help when we started pressing to score and only gave them more points.   Had we made adjustments to how they were playing us we would have done better.

 

I put it opposite of you 1 for the players 2 on the coaches.

 

We haven't won a close one yet.  \if the game plan is good we win, if it isn't a good game plan then we struggle.  That is on the coaches especially OC and \\\HC,

we had over 250 yards on offense in the first half, a 500 yard pace, not sure why they would have thought we needed adjustments other than finishing drives.  The only thing that kills me in the adjustment department, are the fact that it seemed they relentlessly brought pressure up the middle in the second half after doing it a couple times in the first.  That is something that has to be done on the sideline and I can't recall too often they've been able to do that.

chances smith and finnegan go at it?

 

i'd say 90%

 

the rams' defense seems pretty bad to be completely honest with you. they seem to get gashed on the ground just about every week. i think we run wild and cam has an efficient 3 TD game. their fans seem to think their run game is going to be what saves them, but they have an unheralded rookie who hasn't reached 80 yards against two absolutely terrible run Ds. we have a top 5 run defense in the league. they have no big-time receivers to abuse our young secondary.

 

the single thing that worries me is their pass rush. we have players like byron bell who are fully capable of getting abused for 4 sack games. outside of that, i'd say the matchup favors us pretty heavily.

we had over 250 yards on offense in the first half, a 500 yard pace, not sure why they would have thought we needed adjustments other than finishing drives.  The only thing that kills me in the adjustment department, are the fact that it seemed they relentlessly brought pressure up the middle in the second half after doing it a couple times in the first.  That is something that has to be done on the sideline and I can't recall too often they've been able to do that.

 Good point but any decent OC is going to see what adjustments the other team made and counter it.  You are correct we suck at in game adjustments as well as half time adjustments.

 

Like I said Arizona made half time adjustments and we never countered.  That is on the coaches.

chances smith and finnegan go at it?

i'd say 90%

the rams' defense seems pretty bad to be completely honest with you. they seem to get gashed on the ground just about every week. i think we run wild and cam has an efficient 3 TD game. their fans seem to think their run game is going to be what saves them, but they have an unheralded rookie who hasn't reached 80 yards against two absolutely terrible run Ds. we have a top 5 run defense in the league. they have no big-time receivers to abuse our young secondary.

the single thing that worries me is their pass rush. we have players like byron bell who are fully capable of getting abused for 4 sack games. outside of that, i'd say the matchup favors us pretty heavily.


90% is a sad number if Finnegan plays

He has been playing like garbage. You want your WR beating him not wrestling and falling for his poo

we had over 250 yards on offense in the first half, a 500 yard pace, not sure why they would have thought we needed adjustments other than finishing drives. The only thing that kills me in the adjustment department, are the fact that it seemed they relentlessly brought pressure up the middle in the second half after doing it a couple times in the first. That is something that has to be done on the sideline and I can't recall too often they've been able to do that.


Yep....

Run game disappearing IMO was the biggest factor. We were third and long all 2nd half.

90% is a sad number if Finnegan plays

He has been playing like garbage. You want your WR beating him not wrestling and falling for his poo

 

oh i think he'll beat him. both of them are sort of hot-heads, and there is a pretty high chance smith gets into it with someone anyways. my bet is finnegan.

You guys all know how I feel about this Offense. We have moved the ball against everyone, the Rams will be no different. When we limit the WTF? moments, we are extremely efficient. Maybe not as explosive as last year, but IMO, this year is a more aggressive attacking Offense. Shula is dialing it in nicely.

Teamed with our Defense. This Offense can lead us to where we want to go.

6 of our 1st 7 possessions against the Cards we were 1st and 10 inside FG range. And we scored 6 points. WAY too many of those WTF? moments. Drops, penalties, sacks, more drops, fumbles, and INTs all made their presence felt. We limit them to 1 or 2, and we score plenty of points to put the Cards away. Same with Buffalo. We had plenty of opportunities to put them away early, and WTF? happened. Seattle was a clusterfug of WTF? That whole game was filled with em'.

I don't know why we get them, I blame the Football Gods, but until we limit them, or better yet banish them, we will struggle to be everything we want to be.

We play WTF? free. And we can be dangerous. We keep Cam happy. We keep the Huddlez happy, And we get to keep Rivera. And there was great rejoicing.