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Ted Ginn - Difference Maker

Nov 05 2013 06:43 AM Zod Carolina Panthers
This Sunday Panthers wide receiver Ted Ginn returns to San Francisco for the first time since being allowed to leave.

Ginn spent the past three seasons with San Francisco where he was typecast as a return specialist and forgotten as a wide receiver. In 2012 he had only 2 balls thrown his way, he caught both.

This season as a Panther Ginn has proven he can be dangerous in both the return game and as a receiver. Ginn has racked up 21 receptions which in 8 games which equals his reception count in San Francisco over the past two years combined. Clearly, Ginn has taken advantage of the Panthers vertical offense.

This Sunday Ginn may have added value. Twice this season the Panthers roster featured a key player who previously played for the Panthers opponent. Chase Blackburn came from the Giants and Quintin Mikell came from the Rams. In both cases, the Panthers were well prepared and won the game.

Ginn will have the ear of Ron Rivera and Sean McDermott this week in practice, While game tape can provide information on play calling and execution, former players can provide valuable intel on intangibles. In a game that features two stout defenses, a seemingly insignificant bit of information on tendencies could be the difference between a win and a loss.

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This game will be a great test for us.

Plane and simple, if we beat the 49ers, the media's story will be how the panthers are the most dangerous team in the NFL. This will happen overnight. (Yes I know, F the media). But this team backs up everything we say we will do on the field.

I actually think that having the media back and hype up the 2013 Panthers is a good thing! They seem to be responding to it very well as it gives them even more swag.

Ohh and back to the OP, yes having Mr. Ginn will prove to be an excellent source of game planning and play making!

Go Panthers!
This isn't your daddy's Carolina Panthers. As mentioned above, these guys love the attention and seem to play on it. Long gone are the days where they seemed to poo the bed on the big stage once the pressure got up to them and preferred coasting under the radar.

Say what you will but in today's day and age of social media them playing this way is huge. The more exposure this team gets the better. The better the perspective. The better the fan experience (for the home team at least) we've seen this year these guys playing their best football when the fans get loud and rowdy. This team gives them something to get loud about. The better the prime time scheduling and it will help to lure free agents in. These guys may give a small (not talking 5 million under market value) discount for the chance to play for a team that gets exposure, primetime games and is lead by one of the premier super stars in the game with Cam Newton.

Get excited. It's still very premature but this coming game could very easily be the start of the Carolina Panthers' dynasty.... Sounds good doesn't it?
It will be a hard hitting, big boy football game. I like our chances.

I expect a low scoring game.  17-16 or something like that.

Woah, the last time i Heard the word dynasty in connection with the Panthers is when Kerry Colins said it just before he imploded.

 

We have a head coach who is showing promise as well as OC who is coming around.Throw in an excellent DC and we have reason to hope but leave the dynasty talk till later, maybe after we've actually done something.

Don't forget about Colin Jones!

Does SF have any of our past fodders?

I would like to see Cam TRY and over throw him.  I think he gets side by side with a defender.   He will blow by him.  Cam has to just put some air under it and let it fly.  

 

I bet he can't.

 

Ginn could be the difference maker in this battle.  You can bet your ass he is gnawing at the bit to get a shot at busting up the 49ers.

I don't underestimate Ginn's potential and I damn sure don't undervalue good intel.  Time and time again, that has been a key difference between winning and losing, and I don't just mean in football.

the way Shula has been calling the game i can see Ginn used in multiple plays as a.....DECOY.

 

watch what i say.

 

 

Would be the perfect game for a return TD for Ginn...we're going to need it

I definately would like to see Ginn get more involved in the offense this week. It feels like each week we attack defenses with subtle differences. The read option was almost non existent vs the Falcons this year. I can't wait to see what we cook up this week and when things don't work out do we have the next great idea.

I hope we don't throw any more 30-yard bombs on 3rd and 2.  That poo was frustrating as hell against the Falcons the other day.

I wanted it in one of our drives this past Sunday, but I want it even more against SF. First play of one of our drives. Play-action deep ball to Ginn. The guy is so damn fast, and as long as the safeties and corner bite a LITTLE bit, Ginn is gone. Cam won't need more than a few seconds to chuck it deep to him and as long as he doesn't get too happy with it, we're looking at a TD.

We need Ginn to have those big plays on deep balls to free up Smith even more. Can't double both of those guys the whole game with Olsen, Lafell, and the RBs coming out of the backfield. If we see that play at some point Sunday, expect us to route these guys, because our defense will step up. Sure, they got Kaep...but our defense has to practice against Cam, and Cam > Kaep. Also, Kaep isn't running away from TD and Kuechly. Not happening. Those two are way too fast for that.

I hope we don't throw any more 30-yard bombs on 3rd and 2.  That poo was frustrating as hell against the Falcons the other day.

 

This for damn sure.  I don't mind mixing in the occasional one, but I'd prefer that we not run them constantly, especially on a day where Cam isn't throwing the ball downfield well.

I would like to see Cam TRY and over throw him. I think he gets side by side with a defender. He will blow by him. Cam has to just put some air under it and let it fly.

I bet he can't.


He has over thrown Ginn several times earlier in the season. You're underestimating Cams arm.

He has over thrown Ginn several times earlier in the season. You're underestimating Cams arm.

 

 

Actually I am not.   I know he has over thrown him quite a bit but the key is getting some air under it.  He has the Arm strength to probably throw 50 or 60 yards on a rope but give it some air and give Ginn a chance to run

 

If you notice the TD he threw to Ginn it was short, Ginn had to wait for it.  

 

I know how hard it is to lead a speedster.   Quick math, you have to know his speed and where he'll be and be able to drop it in.   That takes tons of practice.  

Well I love Ted and all even started him over Andre Johnson last week...who ever heard of Casey Keenum....FML.

 

 

I think we threw deep on 3rd and 2 to keep ATL from stacking the box every time we get to 3rd and short. It would have nice if they actually converted those long passes but didn't

and my homie colin jones

Ginn is about 5th in the league in yds. per catch for players with at least 20 receptions. I'd like to see Cam hit him in stride (and have him catch it) a lot more often.

This isn't your daddy's Carolina Panthers. As mentioned above, these guys love the attention and seem to play on it. Long gone are the days where they seemed to poo the bed on the big stage once the pressure got up to them and preferred coasting under the radar.

Say what you will but in today's day and age of social media them playing this way is huge. The more exposure this team gets the better. The better the perspective. The better the fan experience (for the home team at least) we've seen this year these guys playing their best football when the fans get loud and rowdy. This team gives them something to get loud about. The better the prime time scheduling and it will help to lure free agents in. These guys may give a small (not talking 5 million under market value) discount for the chance to play for a team that gets exposure, primetime games and is lead by one of the premier super stars in the game with Cam Newton.

Get excited. It's still very premature but this coming game could very easily be the start of the Carolina Panthers' dynasty.... Sounds good doesn't it?

 

Definitely does. Have to say that the team of the 2010s has yet to emerge. Each decade has had its dynasty. The Packers in the 60s, the Steel Curtain in the 70s, the 9ers in the 80s, the Cowboys in the 90s, and the Pats in the 2000s. Some team is gonna win three Superbowls. Why not us?  

I hope we don't throw any more 30-yard bombs on 3rd and 2.  That poo was frustrating as hell against the Falcons the other day.

No doubt. We could have scored 40+ points if we'd had smart play calling on those third and shorts. I don't mind mixing things up occasionally with a long bomb surprise on 3rd and short, but to do it three times in a single game is a bit much. We likely would have gotten the first down on at least two of those.