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  1. You're probably right. The exact same scenario that we faced last year happened in 2015. We did not lay down. Cam played and we beat the crap out of the bucs. The bucs used their higher pick wisely on heargraves (lol). No way I'm laying down for anyone and I wouldn't want my team to lay down either.
  2. I've seen you and a number of people complain that we won the NO game last year. It almost appears that you think NO wanted to lose just to screw over the Panthers draft and the Panthers were stupid to try to win. But let's say the teams were reversed. Let's say the Panthers had locked up home field for the playoffs and here comes one of our division rivals for the last game of the year. They are coming in 6-9, so the difference between winning and losing is picking 9th or picking 16th. Would you expect the Panthers to lay down and try to lose to screw over this rival? Do you think the Panthers should care if they win or lose since they have already wrapped up home field? Do you think the rival coming in should lay down and play their scrubs so that they can get a higher pick the next year? Would you pull for the Panthers to lose in this circumstance? Just curious how and any others think the Panthers should or would treat this meaningless game.
  3. a. its only been 3 years. b. it takes Dlinemen longer to develop - especially from smaller schools (he went to Louisiana Tech for god's sake) c. 3-4 end may better suit his strengths, who knows. d. he's had nagging injuries causing him to miss reps. maybe he stays healthy this year and things fall into place. I'm not advocating to pick up his 5th year option or extend him. But I sure wouldn't cut him this year - especially since he'll be motivated and playing for a new contract.
  4. I don't know how Hunter Henry would have fared here, but Butler was not a reach - at least according to the "experts". I just googled "2016 NFL mock draft" and the first 5 I found had Butler going at 35, 27, 28, 27, and 28. We drafted him at 30. The guy has had a bunch of nagging injuries. He's 24 years old and has played 3 seasons. Its possible he may not be done yet and can still live up to those 2016 expectations.
  5. I'm always amazing that a group of "fans" will rip a current Panther due to their hate of a GM that left 2 years ago. I swear I think some of you guys are just NO, ATL, or TB fans here to stir poo up. I'd like to see him have a solid year, 5-6 sacks, and net us a comp pick while helping us win games. I think some of you would rather see him fail in order to justify your hate of Gettleman. Its a reasonable debate to question or second guess the wisdom of Gettleman's choice, but there is no reason to bash Butler here. It's not his fault he was probably taken a round or two too early and did not live up to your expectations.
  6. If Ford is still there at 40, I hope Marty trades up with the 4th rounder. Ending up with Burns, Ford, and a FS like Adderley or Thornhill would be nuts. Crazy talent and flexibility.
  7. Just trying to keep up. So if a Christian commits an act of terrorism, is he a Christian terrorist? I've never heard that term used. Should we start labeling attacks by Christians as Christian terrorist attacks? Will it give Christianity a bad rep even though the vast majority of Christians are peace-loving folks? I don't know. If only I could think of a similar situation.
  8. yep- I was using the trade value chart to move 16 and 47 for 24, 35, and 140. If we get 24 and 27 for 16, I think it becomes a no-brainer, especially if the DEs that might fall to us (Sweat, Burns, Ferrell) are all gone. We could add two solid OL and DL talents on 5-year contracts and still have 47 for a free safety - hell yes.
  9. I think Ford is a great contingency plan. If Sweat or Burns are there, I believe one of them will be the pick. If the QBs do not go early (especially if the Giants do not take one), the result will likely be that Sweat, Burns, and probably Ferrell are all gone. If that is the case, and Lock or Haskins is still on the board, our spot is ideal for someone that really needs a QB (like Oakland) to jump the Giants. An Oakland trade might look like this...We give them 16 and 47, they give us 24, 35, and 140. Then we can grab G/T Ford at 24, someone like Zack Allen at 35 who can play in a 3-4 or 4-3, and use 77 and 115 to move up and grab Savage or Adderley to play FS in the late 2nd/Early third. We'll still have our comp 3rd to grab Grier if he's still there or someone like Christian Miller at OLB. Then use 140, 154, 187 to grab a DT, G, and QB to develop if we miss on Grier (maybe Thorson or Jackson). That would cover a lot of our needs.
  10. This is Bradberry's contract year. He is very good. After this year, we're either going to pay him $10 mil per year or let him walk. Drafting a CB in the third makes a lot of sense.
  11. I disagree here. Cam has been incredibly resilient. I think he's only missed a handful of games in 8 years. His arm just gave out. I'm not sure a zero tolerance policy on sacks is fair. Cam's sack % (Sacks per pass attempt) was well below the league average (i.e. good) and sandwiched around guys like Keenum, Goff, Rivers, and Ryan. We also led the league in rushing yards per attempt - which I think reflects well on a team's OL. We need to draft someone for the OL in the first or second for sure, and we need to move on from the Kalil experiment, but we're not in that bad shape. Larsen and Van Roten are ok, Moton and Turner are above average, and a high draft pick could really solidify things and allow Cam to be effective assuming his arm is ok.
  12. I believe Trai Turner has already been to multiple pro bowls and Moton is a guy I could see making a few as well. Point is, no one gets all 5 of its offensive linemen invited to the pro bowl. The best teams may get a couple. We've had Kalil/Turner and now possibly Turner/Moton, which puts us in that group. If we draft OL in the first, we may be looking at another potential pro-bowl type player. Regarding the defense, I believe Addison, Short, Poe, Kuechley, Shaq, Bradberry, Jackson, and Reid are all high potential, better-than-average players. I'm not a Poe hater like many others. I think the system was not ideal for Poe last year and he will show out better this year with more 3-4 looks. If I'm wrong, he will be gone next year when the dead money hit makes more sense. I'm also not one to assume Gaulden is a bust just because he did not come in last year and immediately start - I think he can be a solid contributor. Now we definitely need someone else that can get to the quarterback, whether that is a DE or OLB, and another solid corner. We're not going to solve all of our problems in one offseason - but grab OL/DL in the first and second, A G/C and a FS/CB with our thirds, and we should be able to battle with most teams. Having said all that, if we don't bump Kalil this week, I'll be as baffled as everyone else.
  13. The cap includes the highest 51 contracts. Our rookies will mostly replace guys that are currently counting against the cap and will not cost much more (maybe a mil or two). You also don't want to spend all of our space as you may have to IR guys, etc. So we probably have 6-8 mil to play with. That's not enough to sign a big name and we have a number of holes to fill, so we are passing on the first couple of days. We can probably get more space if we see someone that we want to target at a reasonable price. Cutting Kalil and extending Shaq could add 10 mil or so. I'm not sure what happens to the cap if Olsen retires. Otherwise, we are what we have. Not having a ton of cap space often indicates you have a fair amount of talent already on the roster. People complain that we don't have an all-pro at every starting position, but we actually have a fair amount of talent. A healthy Cam, CMC, and some WR weapons is a solid nucleus, with a couple of OL that are likely to be regulars in the Pro bowl. On defense, we have 6-8 above average starters, but we obviously need an elite pass rusher and for our 2nd year guys to show development. If Cam was healthy last year, I think we easily win 11-12 games and are in the mix. If he comes back healthy this year, I believe we will be in the mix once again assuming we draft a couple of starters on the OL and DL. No need to panic just yet.
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