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This team is destined for mediocrity.

XFL ratings have declined which everyone expected. Here are some Saturday numbers though. Saturday XFL-ABC 1.9M NBA-ABC 1.75M PGA-NBC 1.72M NCAAB-CBS 966K

Why not brown?

He is popping up on some mocks now and verge has him as 6th best.

The Panthers will be open to offers until the October trade deadline.

Burrow says he will play for whoever drafts him. He was pretty lukewarm about the Bengals.

Yeah we are getting something we need at 7 and likely elite talent. Unless Tepper and Hurney have to get Tua then just chill.

I added the last two years as well as what player we got in Bold. 2019 - Seattle → Carolina (D). Seattle traded this second-round selection (37th) to Carolina in exchange for Carolina's second- and third-round selections (47th and 77th). Greg Little Carolina traded a sixth-round selection (187th) to Denver in exchange for Denver's sixth- and seventh-round selections (212nd and 237th).[Trade 1] - Dennis Daley & Terry Godwin 2018 - No. 85: Buffalo → Carolina (PD). Buffalo traded a third-round selection (85th) as well as a 2018 seventh-round selection (previously acquired from the LA Chargers) to Carolina in exchange for wide receiver Kelvin Benjamin.[TRADE 16] Rashaan Gulden & Andre Smith No. 88: Carolina → Green Bay (D). Carolina traded a third-round selection (88th) to Green Bay in exchange for Green Bay's fourth- and fifth-round selections (101st and 147th).[TRADE 3] Ian Thomas No. 136: LA Rams → Carolina (D). The Rams traded their fourth-round selection (136th) to Carolina in exchange for Carolina's fifth- and sixth-round selections (147th and 197th).[TRADE 3] Marquis Haynes 2012 - No. 103: San Francisco → Carolina (D). San Francisco traded this selection to Carolina for their sixth round selection (180th) and a third round selection in 2013 (74th).[source 31] Frank Alexander 2011 - None 2010 - #89: New England → Carolina (D). New England traded this selection to Carolina for a 2011 second-round selection.[source 31] Armanti Edwards #112: Carolina → New York Jets (D). Carolina traded this selection to the New York Jets for a fourth-round selection it acquired from Arizona (124th overall; Carolina selected Eric Norwood) and a sixth-round selection (198th overall; Carolina selected David Gettis).[source 37] Eric Norwood & David Gettis #175: Oakland → Carolina (PD). Oakland traded this selection and a 2009 seventh-round selection (216th overall; Carolina selected Captain Munnerlyn) to Carolina for a 2009 sixth-round selection (202nd overall; Oakland selected Brandon Myers).[source 69] Captain Munnerlyn 2009 - #175: Oakland → Carolina (PD). Oakland traded this selection and a 2009 seventh-round selection (216th overall; Carolina selected Captain Munnerlyn) to Carolina for a 2009 sixth-round selection (202nd overall; Oakland selected Brandon Myers).[source 69] 2008 - #19: Philadelphia → Carolina (D). Philadelphia traded its first-round selection to Carolina for Carolina's second- and fourth-round selections in 2008 (No. 43 and 109), and Carolina's first-round pick in 2009. Everett Brown and Mike Goodson #67: New York Jets → Carolina (PD). The New York Jets traded their third-round and fifth-round selections to Carolina for Kris Jenkins[source 11] Charles Godfrey & Gary Barnidge 2007 - The New York Jets traded their first-round selection, the first of their second-round selections, and their fifth-round selection (25th, 59th, and 164th overall, used to select Jon Beason, Ryan Kalil, and Tim Shaw, respectively), to Carolina for this pick and Carolina's sixth-round selection (191st). The Jets later packaged pick 191 with their other second-round selection (63rd) and their third-round pick (89th) which were sent to Green Bay in exchange for Green Bay's second-round selection (47th) with which the Jets would select David Harris.Crouse, Karen (April 29, 2007). "Jets Trade Up to Draft Revis With 14th Pick". New York Times. Archived from the original on October 28, 2011. Retrieved October 28, 2011. Jon Beason, Ryan Kalil, and Tim Shaw. 2006 - Received • 2006 third round pick (#88-James Anderson) from Bears on 2006-04-24 as compensation for restricted free agent Ricky Manning Jr. 2005 - No 45: Carolina → Seattle. Carolina traded its second-round selection (45th) to Seattle in exchange for Seattle's second- and two fourth-round selections (54th, 121st and 126th) Eric Shelton and Stefan LeFors No. 89: Green Bay → Carolina. Green Bay traded its third-round selection (89th) to Carolina in exchange for two fourth-round selections (115th and 126th) Atiyyah Ellison 2004 - Traded • 2004 first round pick (#31-Rashaun Woods) • 2004 fourth round pick (#127-Richard Seigler) to 49ers for • 2004 first round pick (#28-Chris Gamble) on 2004-04-24 Chris Gamble 2003 - Minnesota held the 7th pick, but the Vikings did not make their selection in the allotted time. By rule, they could make a selection at any time afterwards, however Jacksonville and Carolina were able to make their own picks before Minnesota could make its own.[source 1] New England (D). New England acquired this selection (45) from Carolina for New England's second-rounder (#50) and fourth-round selection(#120).[source 2] Bruce Nelson #82: Denver → Carolina (D). Carolina acquired this pick from Denver (82) for Carolina's two fourth-rounders (#108) and (#120 acquired from New England) and Carolina's seventh-round selection(#227).[source 2] Ricky Manning 119: Miami → Carolina (PD). Miami traded this pick along with DE Al Wallace to Carolina for DE Jay Williams.[source 17] Colin Branch #181: Carolina → Miami (D). Carolina traded this pick to Miami for two seventh-round choices (#226 and #247).[source 3] Walter Young and Casey Moore 2002 - Traded • 2002 third round pick (#67-Matt Schobel) to Bengals for • 2002 third round pick (#73-Will Witherspoon) • 2002 fifth round pick (#145-Kyle Johnson) on 2002-04-20 Will Witherspoon & Kyle Johnson

Javien Elliott was our highest rated cornerback! https://www.derp/2020/1/9/21057621/final-2019-ratings-for-all-carolina-panthers-defensive-players-per-pro-football-focus Just noting that Tre Boston was our 2nd rated defensive player and played 100% of defensive stats.

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Don't take it personally. I am not defending Hurney's draft talent. Saying he has only traded down one time seemed dubious. So I posted three. Later I posted all of his draft transactions. He has traded down plenty.

This. There is barely a correlation between hand size and fumbling. And Burrow is one of the most accurate passers in college football history. While its a data point it doesn't matter so much. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/02/nfl-combine-kyler-murray-hand-size-doesnt-matter There is more correlation with cold weather performance. Fans make a bigger deal about hand size that the NFL does.

Whatever argument you want to win you can have it. Make your own conclusions.

He has only traded up once in the first round. I posted the rest of Hurney's draft picks above and he has indeed traded down may times.

Here are the draft moves under the rest of Hurney's drafts. This includes stuff like when MIN timed out on the 7th pick. Feel free to make whatever conclusions you like on his draft history. 2012 - No. 103: San Francisco → Carolina (D). San Francisco traded this selection to Carolina for their sixth round selection (180th) and a third round selection in 2013 (74th).[source 31] 2011 - None 2010 - #89: New England → Carolina (D). New England traded this selection to Carolina for a 2011 second-round selection.[source 31] #112: Carolina → New York Jets (D). Carolina traded this selection to the New York Jets for a fourth-round selection it acquired from Arizona (124th overall; Carolina selected Eric Norwood) and a sixth-round selection (198th overall; Carolina selected David Gettis).[source 37] #175: Oakland → Carolina (PD). Oakland traded this selection and a 2009 seventh-round selection (216th overall; Carolina selected Captain Munnerlyn) to Carolina for a 2009 sixth-round selection (202nd overall; Oakland selected Brandon Myers).[source 69] 2009 - #175: Oakland → Carolina (PD). Oakland traded this selection and a 2009 seventh-round selection (216th overall; Carolina selected Captain Munnerlyn) to Carolina for a 2009 sixth-round selection (202nd overall; Oakland selected Brandon Myers).[source 69] 2008 - #19: Philadelphia → Carolina (D). Philadelphia traded its first-round selection to Carolina for Carolina's second- and fourth-round selections in 2008 (No. 43 and 109), and Carolina's first-round pick in 2009. #67: New York Jets → Carolina (PD). The New York Jets traded their third-round and fifth-round selections to Carolina for Kris Jenkins[source 11] 2007 - The New York Jets traded their first-round selection, the first of their second-round selections, and their fifth-round selection (25th, 59th, and 164th overall, used to select Jon Beason, Ryan Kalil, and Tim Shaw, respectively), to Carolina for this pick and Carolina's sixth-round selection (191st). The Jets later packaged pick 191 with their other second-round selection (63rd) and their third-round pick (89th) which were sent to Green Bay in exchange for Green Bay's second-round selection (47th) with which the Jets would select David Harris.Crouse, Karen (April 29, 2007). "Jets Trade Up to Draft Revis With 14th Pick". New York Times. Archived from the original on October 28, 2011. Retrieved October 28, 2011. 2006 - Received • 2006 third round pick (#88-James Anderson) from Bears on 2006-04-24 as compensation for restricted free agent Ricky Manning Jr. 2005 - No 45: Carolina → Seattle. Carolina traded its second-round selection (45th) to Seattle in exchange for Seattle's second- and two fourth-round selections (54th, 121st and 126th) No. 89: Green Bay → Carolina. Green Bay traded its third-round selection (89th) to Carolina in exchange for two fourth-round selections (115th and 126th) 2004 - Traded • 2004 first round pick (#31-Rashaun Woods) • 2004 fourth round pick (#127-Richard Seigler) to 49ers for • 2004 first round pick (#28-Chris Gamble) on 2004-04-24 2003 - Minnesota held the 7th pick, but the Vikings did not make their selection in the allotted time. By rule, they could make a selection at any time afterwards, however Jacksonville and Carolina were able to make their own picks before Minnesota could make its own.[source 1] New England (D). New England acquired this selection (45) from Carolina for New England's second-rounder (#50) and fourth-round selection(#120).[source 2] #82: Denver → Carolina (D). Carolina acquired this pick from Denver (82) for Carolina's two fourth-rounders (#108) and (#120 acquired from New England) and Carolina's seventh-round selection(#227).[source 2] 119: Miami → Carolina (PD). Miami traded this pick along with DE Al Wallace to Carolina for DE Jay Williams.[source 17] #181: Carolina → Miami (D). Carolina traded this pick to Miami for two seventh-round choices (#226 and #247).[source 3] 2002 - Traded • 2002 third round pick (#67-Matt Schobel) to Bengals for • 2002 third round pick (#73-Will Witherspoon) • 2002 fifth round pick (#145-Kyle Johnson) on 2002-04-20 Traded • 2002 third round pick (#67-Matt Schobel) to Bengals for • 2002 third round pick (#73-Will Witherspoon) • 2002 fifth round pick (#145-Kyle Johnson) on 2002-04-20