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Jeremy Igo

4 Things Greg Hardy Must Do to Remain a Panther

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We do?

As far as I can tell, the defense played lights out the last part of the year once the rookies got up to speed.

We don't need Hardy, and we certainly don't need his cap hit.

With Hardy:

12-4 W/L, #2 defense (#14 all-time)

Without Hardy:

7-8-1, #10 defense

Yeah, we're fine without him.

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If Greg Hardy comes back, Ill grab all kinds of cooking ways. I'll grab some grills, pots, ovens, vats of oil... even a crockpot.

Theres gunna be a hell of a lot of people eating crow!

ratio is like .97 of 1 Huddlers completly dismissing the fact that he could be back.

I think he would be innocent. Why else would he defend his name to this extent?

I'll go on record now as one of the .03 that is holding onto some hope. I'll happily look a fool if it means I hold onto some hope that we get our 2013 D line back.

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If Hardy is found not guilty I hope he takes the tiime to wake Mr. Richardson up and tells him to kiss him dead on his arse. It would be nice to have a owner more dedicated to his own franchise than to the NFL brand.

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Three out of four maybe but he's not giving money back. Of course, the CBA probably doesn't allow it, so he could offer, knowing it can't happen. Best thing would be to make a large donation to charity, namely a domestic violence charity.

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With Hardy:

12-4 W/L, #2 defense (#14 all-time)

Without Hardy:

7-8-1, #10 defense

Yeah, we're fine without him.

You missed an important part of my post.

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With Hardy:

12-4 W/L, #2 defense (#14 all-time)

Without Hardy:

7-8-1, #10 defense

Yeah, we're fine without him.

 

And 1 of those 7 was with Hardy, so....

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I'll go on record now as one of the .03 that is holding onto some hope. I'll happily look a fool if it means I hold onto some hope that we get our 2013 D line back.

 

me too.

 

I look like a fool all the time

 

 

and btw, nice pie to post ratio bro.

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Sam Mills fan has a great question:  Why is this board anti-Greg Hardy? Is it about women?  Is it about the cap?  I am not against Greg Hardy, but I am not for paying him what he is worth either.  This team turned things around without him, and I feel that his absence, not helped by Frank Alexander, was a big reason we struggled.  I mean, at the beginning of the season, our run D was poor.   So we sat watching our team lose 8 of 12 while he was cashing checks at $750K per week.  That has to piss you off as a fan.  That was our cap money--our PSLs, the reason we pay $5 for a soft pretzel.  Hardy had a great year, but the sacks came in bunches vs. teams with scrub LTs for the most part.  When he went against quality, he disappeared.  I was ready to let him go before the arrest.  A financial decision.  You cannot have 2 DEs eating up 30% of the cap.  Common sense.

 

How did this team turn it around?  I think we value character and it showed.  While Frank "Lotus smoker" Alexander and Greg "I am dating a crack ***** and I like it" Hardy were letting us down, there was a core of developing talent stepping up.  Character is a huge factor when a 20-year old kid takes over at RG in the NFL and dominates.  Do we think Andrew Norwell at LG, an undrafted beast, would have been ready to play if he were out partying with 50 assault rifles and a slut on weekends?  He got the chance and he was ready.  Character.  What about his ex-college teammate, Philly Brown? Tre Boston? Bene Benwikere?  Think about Josh Norman, who has continued getting better while spending most of his career in Ron's dog house and sitting on the bench.  Yes, he does dumb things, but he never quit.  Character-made obvious through coachability and work ethic, turned this team around while Greg pushed aside his weaponry and watched from his couch.

 

At DE, Horton suddenly was not fighting for a roster spot, he was starting.  He got better as the season progressed.  Ealy turned up the developmental time table for 4-3 DEs and started flashing by season end.  In fact, he found ways of getting to the QB from the DT spot.  Addison found ways to pressure the QB. 

 

Voth describes things that would suggest high character--something you need to be on this team.  Let's see if Greg learned anything from his ordeal, or if his primary interest is still money.

 

 

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If #1 happens (acquittal) then requiring #3 is ridiculous (paying money back). Take less, sure. But paying it back? After being found not guilty?

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If Hardy is found not guilty I hope he takes the tiime to wake Mr. Richardson up and tells him to kiss him dead on his arse. It would be nice to have a owner more dedicated to his own franchise than to the NFL brand.

It would be nice to have fans who aren't brain dead. The NFL forced Greg Hardy onto the exempt list, not the Panthers.

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Sam Mills fan has a great question:  Why is this board anti-Greg Hardy? Is it about women?  Is it about the cap?  I am not against Greg Hardy, but I am not for paying him what he is worth either.  This team turned things around without him, and I feel that his absence, not helped by Frank Alexander, was a big reason we struggled.  I mean, at the beginning of the season, our run D was poor.   So we sat watching our team lose 8 of 12 while he was cashing checks at $750K per week.  That has to piss you off as a fan.  That was our cap money--our PSLs, the reason we pay $5 for a soft pretzel.  Hardy had a great year, but the sacks came in bunches vs. teams with scrub LTs for the most part.  When he went against quality, he disappeared.  I was ready to let him go before the arrest.  A financial decision.  You cannot have 2 DEs eating up 30% of the cap.  Common sense.

 

How did this team turn it around?  I think we value character and it showed.  While Frank "Lotus smoker" Alexander and Greg "I am dating a crack ***** and I like it" Hardy were letting us down, there was a core of developing talent stepping up.  Character is a huge factor when a 20-year old kid takes over at RG in the NFL and dominates.  Do we think Andrew Norwell at LG, an undrafted beast, would have been ready to play if he were out partying with 50 assault rifles and a slut on weekends?  He got the chance and he was ready.  Character.  What about his ex-college teammate, Philly Brown? Tre Boston? Bene Benwikere?  Think about Josh Norman, who has continued getting better while spending most of his career in Ron's dog house and sitting on the bench.  Yes, he does dumb things, but he never quit.  Character-made obvious through coachability and work ethic, turned this team around while Greg pushed aside his weaponry and watched from his couch.

 

At DE, Horton suddenly was not fighting for a roster spot, he was starting.  He got better as the season progressed.  Ealy turned up the developmental time table for 4-3 DEs and started flashing by season end.  In fact, he found ways of getting to the QB from the DT spot.  Addison found ways to pressure the QB. 

 

Voth describes things that would suggest high character--something you need to be on this team.  Let's see if Greg learned anything from his ordeal, or if his primary interest is still money.

 

That's a fantastic speech, but it still all comes down to perception. The difference between another limited character guy who just played in the super bowl and Greg Hardy is an abuse accusation. Skittles is getting his extension. 

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I missed him but also am pissed that he put the team in jeopardy, especially in light of TD's speech- which may have an effect on Hardy now (just maybe)

 

if he takes a reduction in $$ to right his wrong and gets it...welcome back. If he takes the money and splits- then he was what we thought he was and screw him and better have his head on swivel if we ever see him again. 

 

He has had time to reflect on our dime...so we will see.

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You guys are smoking something - New England will sign him in an instant when you're here thinking you're sooooo special a team that Hardy gets on his knees and apologizes.

If you can work out a discount great : it not - pay the man : talent like Hardy doesn't grow on trees and by God Id hate to have him in a place like Ravens where they loooooooove bullies lol

New England won't hesitate to sign him because they and not the media run the team : they don't care whether their running back grabs their crotch they focus on winning .

That gold digging tramp wanted nothing but to destroy Hardy on her way out - expect to see more and more especially with this No More campaign.

First casualty your stupidity himself : warren sap - I could swear that escort demanded a bribe or she would call the police and fug up his career.

Anyway - don't make the mistake of thinking you're that special and other teams won't notice you have a competent talent evaluation team.

New England and the Ravens won't hesitate to gut your talent and walk to the super bowl with it

Ask Lafell , smith , that 5th round running back , Casey walker - all Carolinas hard work

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You guys are smoking something - New England will sign him in an instant when you're here thinking you're sooooo special a team that Hardy gets on his knees and apologizes.

If you can work out a discount great : it not - pay the man : talent like Hardy doesn't grow on trees and by God Id hate to have him in a place like Ravens where they loooooooove bullies lol

New England won't hesitate to sign him because they and not the media run the team : they don't care whether their running back grabs their crotch they focus on winning .

That gold digging tramp wanted nothing but to destroy Hardy on her way out - expect to see more and more especially with this No More campaign.

First casualty your stupidity himself : warren sap - I could swear that escort demanded a bribe or she would call the police and fug up his career.

Anyway - don't make the mistake of thinking you're that special and other teams won't notice you have a competent talent evaluation team.

New England and the Ravens won't hesitate to gut your talent and walk to the super bowl with it

Ask Lafell , smith , that 5th round running back , Casey walker - all Carolinas hard work

 

Just to clarify:

 

the crotch deal is SEA wasn't it? and as far as Lafell and others- it was more of a cap issue than anything else...Smith - I agree with you but also it was time for a change in the locker room...

 

but there is a character issue to consider...both NE and Panthers have had murders and I think we can agree that an issue that the NFL and teams need to improve on....

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Sam Mills fan has a great question:  Why is this board anti-Greg Hardy?

 

Very few of us are anti Greg Hardy.  Its not anti Greg Hardy to say that he probably will not be back even if found innocent.  I just don't think the front office will be willing to risk continuing to pay him what he thinks he deserves.  And I can't really blame them.  And I don't blame him for signing elsewhere for big money. 

 

Of course, if he is found guilty, then there might be a lot of anti Greg Hardy sentiment. 

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