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Dorial Green-Beckham: If he falls to us on the clock in 2nd

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We've hit on most (nearly all) of the picks Gettleman has made over the past two years, plus undrafted players, without having to take guys that had character concerns.

Your point is invalid.

 

Your point is pointed at the Gettleman tenure which is fair. But i am talking about this franchise as a whole. If you want to make it just about Gettleman we simply don't have enough info to measure his success on second round picks. Though it looks promising with both. Our history as a whole on second round picks isn't nearly as good.

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Keep in mind, Da'Rick Rogers did less than Dorial Green-Beckham and he went undrafted.

 

Don't believe that he is nearly as talented, or has the measurables of DGB.  I know that he was no where nearly as hyped, and that's probably for those reasons. 

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Keep in mind, Da'Rick Rogers did less than Dorial Green-Beckham and he went undrafted.

That is an atrocious comparisons.

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Could be a DaRick Rogers,..

 

Best talent in the draft, goes undrafted. 

 

We didnt sniff DaRick as an UDFA, so I wouldnt be surprised here either.

 

And thats coming from someone who wanted DaRick Rogers, Colt Lyerla and now Dorial.

 

Will watch and hope for it, but I truly doubt it.

 

Jaelon Strong or Rashad Green,...

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I want either Sammie Coates or Devin Smith in the 2nd.  Give me a burner to pair with KB.  Someone is probably gonna roll the dice on DGB in the late 1st or early 2nd.

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I want either Sammie Coates or Devin Smith in the 2nd.  Give me a burner to pair with KB.  Someone is probably gonna roll the dice on DGB in the late 1st or early 2nd.

 

If you don't grab him in the first i think he is gone. That said he might not even be there when we pick. i suspect he blows up combine.

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If you don't grab him in the first i think he is gone. That said he might not even be there when we pick. i suspect he blows up combine.

 

Are you talking about DGB?  I don't want him.

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Your point is pointed at the Gettleman tenure which is fair. But i am talking about this franchise as a whole. If you want to make it just about Gettleman we simply don't have enough info to measure his success on second round picks. Though it looks promising with both. Our history as a whole on second round picks isn't nearly as good.

 

Unless Marty Hurney is gonna be making picks for us again anytime soon, our second round history isn't all that relevant to the discussion.

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Unless Marty Hurney is gonna be making picks for us again anytime soon, our second round history isn't all that relevant to the discussion.

 

Oh but it is. If you think any player we have drafted since the Rae Carruth era hasn't been signed off by Richardson I think your mistaken. The point being is that all of our picks have to meet a certain "good boy quota". Which is why no one ever projects players with character issues to us.  It's become a part of who we are as a team. It's the reason everyone says Hardy is done here and the reason why you would pass on a Janoris Jenkins or any player with red flags. These players simply don't seem to find there way to a Carolina roster. 

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Oh but it is. If you think any player we have drafted since the Rae Carruth era hasn't been signed off by Richardson I think your mistaken. The point being is that all of our picks have to meet a certain "good boy quota". Which is why no one ever projects players with character issues to us.  It's become a part of who we are as a team. It's the reason everyone says Hardy is done here and the reason why you would pass on a Janoris Jenkins or any player with red flags. These players simply don't seem to find there way to a Carolina roster. 

 

Which I have no problem with.

 

You think we're the only team that looks at character issues?

 

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I'm fine with taking late round fliers on a guy with some question marks.  We did it with Hardy and it paid off well for us.  But, I don't think you can afford to spend a 2nd rounder on a guy with as many question marks as DGB unless you just had a gluttony of draft picks acquired from previous trades.  We don't have that luxury and we have too many needs to swing and miss.

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Haha, it's a war on two fronts. I might get confused about which thread we are arguing in but I'll give it a try.

That's not what I said Mr. Scot. If two players are there for us, one is so-so talent wise but has high character he would be selected over the more talented player with character concerns. Even if this is not 100% accurate it sure is the perception that the front office wishes to convey.

G-man has an incredible eye for talent but even he knows not to bring in future Cincinnati Bengals to Charlotte. Big Cat don't won't no scrubs.

 

One problem: The scenario you're basing your argument on doesn't actually happen.

 

If we're looking at two players in a given draft spot, they're going to be equally rated on talent.  The team isn't gonna look at a guy with a third round grade as an option in the second round just because he has high character.

 

Character could be used to separate two guys graded with equal talent, but they're not gonna raise a guy's draft grade.

 

It's also a straw man because it's not like any given draft spot has only two guys to choose from.  Even in the seventh round there are still plenty of choices available with no major character concerns attached.

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I want either Sammie Coates or Devin Smith in the 2nd.  Give me a burner to pair with KB.  Someone is probably gonna roll the dice on DGB in the late 1st or early 2nd.

 

DGB looks like a slightly less physical KB to me with slightly better hands. He looks like he may be faster than KB, but he isn't a speedster.

 

Coates had a 19.1 percent drop rate.  That is pretty astounding to me.  

 

Devin Smith is intriguing.  He needs to get more physical, work on his hands and refine his route running.  Although not world class, he does have some speed. We'll see how fast he really is at the Combine. 

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DGB looks like a slightly less physical KB to me with slightly better hands. He looks like he may be faster than KB, but he isn't a speedster.

 

Coates had a 19.1 percent drop rate.  That is pretty astounding to me.  

 

Devin Smith is intriguing.  He needs to get more physical, work on his hands and refine his route running.  Although not world class, he does have some speed. We'll see how fast he really is at the Combine. 

 

DGB isn't a speedster?  THe guy ran a 10.59 100 meter dash in HS.  He can fuging FLY.

 

I think fastest WR 40 time at the combine is probably between Coates, Smith, and Tyler Lockett.  Smith ran a 10.56 100.

 

My money would probably be on Smith.

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