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Jeremy Igo

Brenton Bersin continues to impress

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I'd honestly love to see us win a Super Bowl with him on roster just so I could watch some people's heads explode at the idea of Sunshine having a Super Bowl ring.

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I'd honestly love to see us win a Super Bowl with him on roster just so I could watch some people's heads explode at the idea of Sunshine having a Super Bowl ring.

​Imagine if he caught the game winning touchdown or had some sort of crucial play.

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I honesty believe that Bersin is better than Cotchery. What we need to find out is can he offer more than Hill and Philly Brown. We already know Benjamin, Ginn and Funchess are locks so the final 2-3 spots will be Cotchery, Hill, Brown and Boykin. Hill and Brown offer speed but Brown and Boykin offer special teams exp. Boykin and Cotchery offer experience.

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Yeah I was thinking I could see Cotchery getting cut, would be a ballsy move but could see it happening.  

Obviously Benjamin and Funchess have spots.  I think Ginn has to have a spot just because of his ability to return punts, that was a HUGE asset for us in 2013.  I think we all like Philly Brown too.  So then the coaches seem to really like Bersin too.  If we don't keep 6 wr's Cotchery has to be the odd man out

I think it would be more ballsy move to keep a worse WR. It's going to be a tough decision but as of now it looks like hill and Cotch are on the outside looking  in.

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​Imagine if he caught the game winning touchdown or had some sort of crucial play.

I'd laugh pretty hard.

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So... doing some number crunching thanks to the great link provided by a previous commenter

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/player-receiving-statistics/2014/

OK, so here's a stat that blows my mind. 

Bersin led all the WRs last year in reception %. (65%)  13 catches out of 20 targets.  11 of those catches for 1st downs.  1 TD, no fumbles.   His greatest weakness as many have mentioned seems to be yards after catch.  But seriously, the stats back up his making some clutch catches.  Nice.  Among the WRs, Cotch was next at 61.5%, then Brown at 58%; Kelvin at 50%

The RBs & Greg had higher reception percentages than the WRs.  Fozzy & DeAngelo nailed a tiny number of targets (83%).  JStew (80%) & Tolbert (70%) showed great hands.  Olsen was his awesome "Mr. Reliable" self 84 catches out of 123 targets = 68% reception %.

*REALLY* hope Kelvin can pull up his reception % this year.  If he does, our offense could be very exciting!

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One more comment.  Here's a very fun (but perhaps meaningless?) stat.  Was looking at the 1stDown% (# of first downs / # of receptions). 

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/player-receiving-first-downs-and-first-down-percentage/2014/

When looking at all players with 10 or more receptions last year, Carolina has the top two players on the list! 

1.  Ed Dickson:  9 FDs out of 10 receptions = 90%

2. Bersin:  11 FDs out of 13 receptions = 84.6%

NEXT is.... wait for it....

 

 

 

 

 

3. Calvin Johnson (aka Megatron)  59 FDs out of 71 receptions = 83.1%

The average FD% for all players with 10+ receptions = 53.2%

The average FD% for players with 10 - 19 receptions (like Bersin) = 49.6%

So, among players used in limited receiving roles, Bersin's ability to get the 1st down really stands out.

Here's a list of the top 30 players in terms of 1st down %:

NamePosTeamGamesReceptionsFDFD%
Ed DicksonTECAR1610990
Brenton BersinWRCAR15131184.6
Calvin JohnsonWRDET13715983.1
Dwayne AllenTEIND13292482.8
Terrance WilliamsWRDAL16373081.1
Crockett GillmoreTEBAL1510880
Corey FullerWRDET16141178.6
Brandon LloydWRSF14141178.6
Lance MooreWRPIT14141178.6
Coby FleenerTEIND16514078.4
Randall CobbWRGB16917178
Travis BenjaminWRCLE16181477.8
Andre RobertsWRWAS16362877.8
Torrey SmithWRBAL16493877.6
T.Y. HiltonWRIND15826376.8
Nick ToonWRNO8171376.5
Marques ColstonWRNO16594576.3
Brian QuickWRSTL7251976
Cooper HelfetTESEA1012975
Rishard MatthewsWRMIA1412975
Albert WilsonWRKC12161275
Daniel FellsTENYG16161275
Malcom FloydWRSD16523975
Jason WittenTEDAL16644875
DeAndre HopkinsWRHOU16765775
Kenny StillsWRNO15634774.6
Rob GronkowskiTENE15826073.2
Julio JonesWRATL151047673.1
Zach ErtzTEPHI16584272.4
Jordy NelsonWRGB16987172.4

 

P.S.:  Just need to add a shout out to Jeremy.  The new table formatting is AWESOME.  Just love it!

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​Point is the dude suck and should not be so popular among fans. For some strange reason he is.

Every team has these guys..  The Armati Crew was worse.. 

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You will fug wait until I can look down every roster and look up 4th Wr.  I got a job and can't do reaserch projects on my phone.. So wait.. 

​Ever get around to this?

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I think his limitations really slapped people in the face, and that reality triggered a snap judgment that he sucks.  Well, he may not fit the roles he was thrust into last season, but he most DEFINITELY fits that 3d-and-5-spread-the-field-and-get-6-yards-with-a-tough-catch-over-the-middle role.  We all tried to make him something he isn't due to our lack of skill positions last year.  Now that he should fit comfortably back in his role this year, I think people will come to appreciate him more.

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​Ever get around to this?

I gave you Moncreif and Nicks.. 

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Alright Donte Moncreif or Hakeem Nicks for the Colts last year.. 

​Dont give answers yet..do your research like you wanted to..you are going to have to give a reasonable number of examples in order to make a valid point.

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​haha, ok.. Guess that settles it then..

Give me a base line of  how many examples do you need?? 

Devin Hester is another example of a perfect  4th  Wr... 

So that's 2 examples.. 

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Give me a base line of  how many examples do you need?? 

Devin Hester is another example of a perfect  4th  Wr... 

So that's 2 examples.. 

​I dont have a baseline.  You said you were going to look through the rosters, so I just wanted the overall results.  I want to know if other teams have much better WR4's and see whether or not Bersin is as bad of a WR4 as you think he is, or if most teams have WR4's that are comparable to Bersin in terms of talent/stats.

2 is definitely not enough because if only two teams have WR4's that are clearly better than Bersin, than we are on par with the rest of the league.  I want to see results that make me realize that Bersin is much worse than other WR4's around the league.

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