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Carolina Panthers Mock Draft Rounds 1 - 3

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Was just checking out the composite Big Board at Fanspeak today.  They have a lot of excellent players falling to us in Round 1.  Here are the 10 highest-ranked players on the board in the mock I just did.  Wouldn't it be incredible to have the choice of Reed, Ogbah, Coleman, Dodd, Ifedi, Neal, Doctson?!   Some good players in that bunch.  Hard to believe some of these players will be there at #30. 

22 DT  JARRAN REED - ALABAMA
23 ILB  REGGIE RAGLAND - ALABAMA
24 DE  EMMANUEL OGBAH - OKLAHOMA STATE
25 WR  COREY COLEMAN - BAYLOR
26 DE  KEVIN DODD - CLEMSON
27 WR  MICHAEL THOMAS - OHIO STATE
30 OT  GERMAIN IFEDI - TEXAS A&M
31 S  KEANU NEAL - FLORIDA
34 WR  JOSH DOCTSON - TCU
35 S  KARL JOSEPH - WEST VIRGINIA
 
Here's how this first round Mock shook out (Mocking the Panthers I picked Jarran Reed as "BPA")
 
ALL PICKS
1: R1P1
DE JOEY BOSA
TENNESSEE TITANS
2: R1P2
QB JARED GOFF
CLEVELAND BROWNS
3: R1P3
OT LAREMY TUNSIL
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
4: R1P4
QB CARSON WENTZ
DALLAS COWBOYS
5: R1P5
CB JALEN RAMSEY
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
6: R1P6
OT RONNIE STANLEY
BALTIMORE RAVENS
7: R1P7
OLB MYLES JACK
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
8: R1P8
DE DEFOREST BUCKNER
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
9: R1P9
CB MACKENSIE ALEXANDER
TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
10: R1P10
RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT
NEW YORK GIANTS
11: R1P11
DE SHAQ LAWSON
CHICAGO BEARS
12: R1P12
CB WILLIAM JACKSON III
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
13: R1P13
DT A'SHAWN ROBINSON
MIAMI DOLPHINS
14: R1P14
ILB DARRON LEE
OAKLAND RAIDERS
15: R1P15
CB ELI APPLE
LA RAMS
16: R1P16
WR LAQUON TREADWELL
DETROIT LIONS
17: R1P17
DT ANDREW BILLINGS
ATLANTA FALCONS
18: R1P18
OT TAYLOR DECKER
INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
19: R1P19
DT SHELDON RANKINS
BUFFALO BILLS
20: R1P20
OLB LEONARD FLOYD
NEW YORK JETS
21: R1P21
CB VERNON HARGREAVES III
WASHINGTON REDSKINS
22: R1P22
G CODY WHITEHAIR
HOUSTON TEXANS
23: R1P23
DT KENNY CLARK
MINNESOTA VIKINGS
24: R1P24
DE NOAH SPENCE
CINCINNATI BENGALS
25: R1P25
DT VERNON BUTLER
PITTSBURGH STEELERS
26: R1P26
OT JACK CONKLIN
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
27: R1P27
OT JASON SPRIGGS
GREEN BAY PACKERS
28: R1P28
QB CONNOR COOK
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
29: R1P29
QB PAXTON LYNCH
ARIZONA CARDINALS
30: R1P30
DT JARRAN REED
CAROLINA PANTHERS
31: R1P31
DE KEVIN DODD
DENVER BRONCOS
 

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By contrast, these are the ten highest-ranked players for our pick at #30 when I used fanspeak's draft board.  Much less exciting a choice....  I'm not a fan of Alexander, Washington or Nkemdiche in round 1.  Would go with Clark, I guess...

 

19 CB  MACKENSIE ALEXANDER - CLEMSON

25 DT  ADOLPHUS WASHINGTON - OHIO STATE

26 DT  KENNY CLARK - UCLA

30 CB  WILLIAM JACKSON III - HOUSTON

31 DT  ROBERT NKEMDICHE - OLE MISS

33 QB  PAXTON LYNCH - MEMPHIS

34 WR  COREY COLEMAN - BAYLOR

36 DT  AUSTIN JOHNSON - PENN STATE

37 WR  JOSH DOCTSON - TCU

39 CB  KENDALL FULLER - VIRGINIA TECH

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Here are the top 60 players on the Composite Big Board at Fanspeak:

1 OT  LAREMY TUNSIL - OLE MISS
2 CB  JALEN RAMSEY - FSU
3 OLB  MYLES JACK - UCLA
4 QB  JARED GOFF - CALIFORNIA
5 DE  JOEY BOSA - OHIO STATE
6 DE  DEFOREST BUCKNER - OREGON
7 RB  EZEKIEL ELLIOTT - OHIO STATE
8 CB  VERNON HARGREAVES III - FLORIDA
9 QB  CARSON WENTZ - NORTH DAKOTA STATE
10 OT  RONNIE STANLEY - NOTRE DAME
11 ILB  DARRON LEE - OHIO STATE
12 WR  LAQUON TREADWELL - OLE MISS
13 DE  NOAH SPENCE - EASTERN KENTUCKY
14 DT  SHELDON RANKINS - LOUISVILLE
15 DE  SHAQ LAWSON - CLEMSON
16 CB  MACKENSIE ALEXANDER - CLEMSON
17 DT  A'SHAWN ROBINSON - ALABAMA
18 OT  TAYLOR DECKER - OHIO STATE
19 DT  ANDREW BILLINGS - BAYLOR
20 OLB  LEONARD FLOYD - GEORGIA
21 OT  JACK CONKLIN - MICHIGAN STATE
22 DT  JARRAN REED - ALABAMA
23 ILB  REGGIE RAGLAND - ALABAMA
24 DE  EMMANUEL OGBAH - OKLAHOMA STATE
25 WR  COREY COLEMAN - BAYLOR
26 DE  KEVIN DODD - CLEMSON
27 WR  MICHAEL THOMAS - OHIO STATE
28 CB  WILLIAM JACKSON III - HOUSTON
29 CB  ELI APPLE - OHIO STATE
30 OT  GERMAIN IFEDI - TEXAS A&M
31 S  KEANU NEAL - FLORIDA
32 QB  PAXTON LYNCH - MEMPHIS
33 G  CODY WHITEHAIR - KANSAS STATE
34 WR  JOSH DOCTSON - TCU
35 S  KARL JOSEPH - WEST VIRGINIA
36 RB  KENNETH DIXON - LOUISIANA TECH
37 QB  CONNOR COOK - MICHIGAN STATE
38 OLB  JAYLON SMITH - NOTRE DAME
39 DT  VERNON BUTLER - LOUISIANA TECH
40 DT  JONATHAN BULLARD - FLORIDA
41 WR  WILL FULLER - NOTRE DAME
42 OLB  SU'A CRAVENS - USC
43 WR  STERLING SHEPARD - OKLAHOMA
44 DT  KENNY CLARK - UCLA
45 WR  TYLER BOYD - PITT
46 TE  HUNTER HENRY - ARKANSAS
47 S  DARIAN THOMPSON - BOISE STATE
48 DT  CHRIS JONES - MISS. STATE
49 C  RYAN KELLY - ALABAMA
50 RB  DERRICK HENRY - ALABAMA
51 OT  JASON SPRIGGS - INDIANA
52 S  TJ GREEN - CLEMSON
53 CB  XAVIEN HOWARD - BAYLOR
54 DT  MALIEK COLLINS - NEBRASKA
55 CB  HARLAN MILLER - SE LOUISIANA
56 DT  ROBERT NKEMDICHE - OLE MISS
57 CB  KENDALL FULLER - VIRGINIA TECH
58 G  CHRISTIAN WESTERMAN - ARIZONA STATE
59 DE  KAMALEI CORREA - BOISE STATE
60 WR  BRAXTON MILLER - OHIO STATE

 

According to this board, and the mock draft I posted above, the "reaches" by other teams which allowed a slew of good players to be available to us at #30 included:

  • G Cody Whitehair, ranked at #33, picked at #22 by the Texans
  • DT Kenny Clark, ranked at #44, picked at #23 by the Vikings
  • DT Vernon Butler, ranked at #39, picked at #25 by the Steelers
  • OT Jason Spriggs, ranked at #51, picked at #27 by Green Bay
  • QB Connor Cook, ranked at #37, picked at #28 by the Chiefs
  • QB Paxton Lynch, ranked at #32, picked at #29 by the Cardinals

With the exception of Cook, it's not too surprising to see those names in the first round.  It does suggest that there is fairly equal quality and depth from about #16 - #40, so we should be getting a decent player late in round 1.

Also in this draft, it was interesting to see how quickly CBs flew off the board:

  • #2 ranked Ramsey was picked at #5 (Jags)
  • #16 ranked Alexander was picked at #9 (Bucs)
  • #28 ranked Jackson III was picked at #12 (Saints)
  • #29 ranked Apple was picked at #15 (Rams)

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I like the Hunter Henry pick @ 30, but if the "other" Henry (Derrick) is there I think we go with him. Don't see any way Shaq Lawson survives till the 2nd round, too much of a premium on pass rushers. 

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3 hours ago, CatMan72 said:

I like the Hunter Henry pick @ 30, but if the "other" Henry (Derrick) is there I think we go with him. Don't see any way Shaq Lawson survives till the 2nd round, too much of a premium on pass rushers. 

I've just noticed an intriguing possibility.  The TRIPLE HENRY option:

  • Derrick Henry  RB - round 1
  • Hunter Henry  TE - round 2
  • Willie Henry DT - round 3

That would be fun, but confusing as hell....!

I just took two of the Henrys in my latest mock draft using the composite board at Fanspeak.  It was a nice 5 round draft:

30:  DE KEVIN DODD, CLEMSON

62: TE HUNTER HENRY, ARKANSAS

94: DT WILLIE HENRY, MICHIGAN

130: RB CJ PROSISE, NOTRE DAME

169: P DREW KASER, TEXAS A&M

(The punter was pretty much BPA on the board based on NFL.com draft grades at our pick in round 5..., and it fit a need, so why not.)

Derrick Henry went at #26 to the Seahawks in this mock.  Even if Derrick Henry had been on the board, I think I still would have taken Dodd instead...

Hunter Henry is going in wildly differing spots depending on the big board one uses.  In some mocks he's going mid 1st round, in many other mocks he still falls to us in round 2...  will be interesting to see if teams are willing to draft a TE in round 1.  Certainly the success of Gronk & Olsen has to show the value of a star TE, for any teams caring to pay attention.

That draft plus a round 7 gem found by G'man would not upset me at all.  But of course Gettleman has forgotten more football in the past week than I'm likely to know in a lifetime...., so while I'm having fun with mocks, I don't really claim to know what I'm talking about, and I trust Gettleman pretty completely.

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5 hours ago, CatMan72 said:

I like the Hunter Henry pick @ 30, but if the "other" Henry (Derrick) is there I think we go with him. Don't see any way Shaq Lawson survives till the 2nd round, too much of a premium on pass rushers. 

Something weird is going on with Lawson. I don't know if it is his shoulder or what, but his stock is sliding. Out of nowhere right around the combine in-the-know mock drafters started putting him at the bottom of the 1st and putting Dodd near the top 10 without really any explanation at all.

In-the-know refers to the guys in the media that actually have connections with scouts and GMs and their mock drafts typically reflect what they hear from their connections rather than what their opinion on the player is. Jeremiah, McShay and Mayock are examples of those guys. When something mysterious, like Lawson dropping and Dodd rising without explanation, happens in their mocks it's usually something to pay attention to.

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6 hours ago, KB_fan said:

I've just noticed an intriguing possibility.  The TRIPLE HENRY option:

  • Derrick Henry  RB - round 1
  • Hunter Henry  TE - round 2
  • Willie Henry DT - round 3

That would be fun, but confusing as hell....!

I just took two of the Henrys in my latest mock draft using the composite board at Fanspeak.  It was a nice 5 round draft:

30:  DE KEVIN DODD, CLEMSON

62: TE HUNTER HENRY, ARKANSAS

94: DT WILLIE HENRY, MICHIGAN

130: RB CJ PROSISE, NOTRE DAME

169: P DREW KASER, TEXAS A&M

(The punter was pretty much BPA on the board based on NFL.com draft grades at our pick in round 5..., and it fit a need, so why not.)

Derrick Henry went at #26 to the Seahawks in this mock.  Even if Derrick Henry had been on the board, I think I still would have taken Dodd instead...

Hunter Henry is going in wildly differing spots depending on the big board one uses.  In some mocks he's going mid 1st round, in many other mocks he still falls to us in round 2...  will be interesting to see if teams are willing to draft a TE in round 1.  Certainly the success of Gronk & Olsen has to show the value of a star TE, for any teams caring to pay attention.

That draft plus a round 7 gem found by G'man would not upset me at all.  But of course Gettleman has forgotten more football in the past week than I'm likely to know in a lifetime...., so while I'm having fun with mocks, I don't really claim to know what I'm talking about, and I trust Gettleman pretty completely.

That would be a really great draft IMO. 

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I love drafting offensive lineman in the 3rd round. Hate giving up that pick. We need to draft for depth on the oline at all times. They just get hurt too often.

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alright guys. tried another one.  "think" like Gettleman is almost impossible because I truly believe with the offseason moves and the comments made he is going for BPA. Meaning it will be hard for anyone to guess who he selects in the 1st round because it all depends on how the draft unfolds and who is there at 30.  With adding Boykin I don't believe CB is going to be selected in the 1st and with the "Elite" offensive tackles gone and also Lawson and Dodd gone, what other option is to add FEAR in the eyes of our opponents and draft a bruiser.  The rest of the draft unfolded with me added key players to fill holes and add depth.   As you can see OL wasn't addressed because of the talent level in the later rounds. Plus Rivera has said the team has won 22 out of 25 games with Remmers at RT. Although I think he isn't the long term answer we are in a spot to add great skill and depth:

Round 1 Pick 30: Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama (B+)
Round 2 Pick 31: Su'a Cravens, OLB/SS, Southern California (A-)
Round 3 Pick 30: Charles Tapper, DE, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 4 Pick 31: Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky (A)
Round 5 Pick 29: Charone Peake, WR, Clemson (A+)
Round 7 Pick 31: Juston Burris, CB, NC State (B+)

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10 hours ago, Catufb85 said:

alright guys. tried another one.  "think" like Gettleman is almost impossible because I truly believe with the offseason moves and the comments made he is going for BPA. Meaning it will be hard for anyone to guess who he selects in the 1st round because it all depends on how the draft unfolds and who is there at 30.  With adding Boykin I don't believe CB is going to be selected in the 1st and with the "Elite" offensive tackles gone and also Lawson and Dodd gone, what other option is to add FEAR in the eyes of our opponents and draft a bruiser.  The rest of the draft unfolded with me added key players to fill holes and add depth.   As you can see OL wasn't addressed because of the talent level in the later rounds. Plus Rivera has said the team has won 22 out of 25 games with Remmers at RT. Although I think he isn't the long term answer we are in a spot to add great skill and depth:

Round 1 Pick 30: Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama (B+)
Round 2 Pick 31: Su'a Cravens, OLB/SS, Southern California (A-)
Round 3 Pick 30: Charles Tapper, DE, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 4 Pick 31: Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky (A)
Round 5 Pick 29: Charone Peake, WR, Clemson (A+)
Round 7 Pick 31: Juston Burris, CB, NC State (B+)

Horrible

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3 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Horrible

Really? I'm not a huge fan of Henry and it's pretty well established that I'm not a fan of Cravens for us and I would be pretty happy with that. Tapper, Higbee and Peake in 3, 4 and 5 would be awesome.

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To my knowledge, the Panthers have never picked a guy in the first round that they haven't had a visit with. I will keep my eyes open.

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On 3/21/2016 at 4:32 PM, Troys99x3 said:

I'd be extremely pleased with the first two picks. Especially if we could land Karl Joseph in the 3rd. That would be a stellar draft.

If we move up to take anyone in the second, our third round pick, fourth and/or fifth will likely be used as compensation (depending on the spot we are trying to move up to). I will say that if we could bag Joseph in the third, I would be OK with that.

1. Derrick Henry

2. Hunter Henry

3. Karl Joseph

That'd be great!

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On March 17, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Davidson Deac II said:

Cant have two guys named shaq on the team.  :)

We have 2 Cameron's, why not

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